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How exactly is that an "exchange of words"? It's essentially a lunatic yelling at someone else, who simply turns and walks away.
Crean is a douche. Hope we beat him in the BTT.
Crean and Oladipo are perfect for each other.
Never really had a problem with Oladipo. Don't think he's done anything egregious. I've seen him get pumped up, maybe some smack talk, but nothing outside of what you should expect in D1 ball. Crean on the other hand...
Really? How about the windmill dunk when the game was over at Indiana, or kissing the court of the opponent you just beat by a point? The guy is a douche.
And t-shirts. Underlining victories like that doesn't register with me since you had to win the game first.
Don't like it? Make your free throws. Win the game. Take care of your game and don't give him the chance to showboat.
When have we done that?
Frankly, I don't know the game, but I can visualize at least one game this season where it happened.
Well I can visualize Kate Upton in my bed, but that doesn't make it real.
GTFO my court comes to mind...
That was one comment said by one player to another player. That's a whole lot different than a public display of doucheness.
I remember Mario Manningham doing the worm vs Penn Shtate XD... Different sports, but you need to realize the rest of the Big 10 thinks we're the biggest dbags in the conference.... Sometimes things happen that validate the stereotypes. Everyone's a bad winner when you're the loser.
FAB Five had their fair share of showboating...
Meh, I guess I don't mind the dunk that much. And the kid just won a B1G title outright by one point... Lighten up a bit.
You obviously have no ideavwhat happened and you obviously have never played competitive basketball
The kissing thing I didn't take issue with. He could have done much worse.
College kid excited about winning a B1G title. He didn't disrespect the game or his opponent.
Crean, on the other hand, acted like a total disgrace ...
this weenie struggles with postgame etiquette. Looks like his failure to shake or his drive-by shakes have pissed more than one opposing coach off.
Too bad Meyer didn't knock that smug piece of shit on his ass.
Can't stand him.
No wonder why I can't, he's a disciple of izzo.
called him Izzo during the game.
caught that too - was funny
didn't shake hands with who? the whole team?
it sounds like he didnt shake hands with anyone
Does this mean he didnt shake Beilein's hand ?
D-bag...but I still hate Wisconsin's coach more.
Bo Ryan has been unbelievably lucky against us (and PSU today) but other than that I don't have a reason to dislike him. Tom Cream is just a jackass as a person.
Crean is an idiot. That is all!
I was lucky enough to be in row four center court in the Rage, and could clearly see Crean yelling "shutup" toward the Michigan bench while Beilein was talking to a ref. This happened on more than one occasion, and judging by their reactions, he seemed to also be yelling to our players when they were on his side of the court.
After the game, Crean didn't shake hands with of our any players or coaches. After what i saw, I've never disliked a coach more than I dislike Tom Crean. He's the epitome of classlessness. And I didn't even get to him coaching flops...
I am gonna endorse this comment. There is no coach in the Conference who pushes more edgy boundaries than Tom Crean, in working the refs and stirring things up on the sidelines.
Fuck Tom Crean and Indiana.
forward to getting the backstory on this.
who is surprised?
If true, king of all douches
Edit - Fly removed to save the board member's sanity.
If Crean is a douche, and Urban Meyer is a douche, does that mean Crean is Urban Meyer?
All Urban Meyers are douches, but not all douches are Urban Meyer. Kinda like pedofiles and sporting a mustache.
Meyers, douches, pedofiles and mustaches.
Suddenly, I have a strong desire to kiss my wife's feet while eating a hot dog with sauerkraut and some Fritos.
BTW: love the avatar.
Crean is a straight up dick. Goodnight.
No doubt crean is a d-bag. I still cant believe he uses michigans the team, the team, the team motto.
He stole it from the Harbaughs. It still disgusts me either way.
Stauskas turned to the IU bench after an early 3 which was a douche move too.
Nothing Crean says or does surprises me.
We could have gotten Stauskas more involved in the 2nd half. He seemed to be confident this afternoon.
Burke is good and all but ya he could have gotten more people involved in quite a few games this year.
Of all the excuses and reasons around the board today...it's hard to not be involved in the offense and then be expected to hit a big shot.
Then again Nik was a little too confident because that was a really stupid 3 to launch before the half. Luckily at the time, IU failed to score before the half.
yeah, but like, that was Stauskas and that was for us?
I believe you meant to say "Stauskas turned to the IU bench after an early 3, which was totally bauss"
Bauss = good?
Sorry, I don't like it. Run back and TRY to play some defense.
Pretty sure he makes that turn no matter what bench he is by. Usually looks towards the fans and throws up the triple sign. Either way, doesn't compare to the douchebaggery of Crean pie.
Crean is late 40's.
I don't want to speculate too much, but I'd very much like for a reporter to ask Nik what he was hearing from the IU bench leading up to that. Because I think there's probably a good back-story on that.
Crean had to be restrained after running around the floor like Jimmy V. Meyer would've ripped him up.
did crean just skip the handshake and meyer confront him about it?
It sounds like it was because of the way Crean conducted himself throughout the game which is a little weird considering this is normal for Crean. It's an every game event.
It really sucks to lose to people like that.
Brian Snow a Scout bball recruiting analyst tweeted a lot of it has to do with recruiting. Didn't say who or what specifically though.
T1. Bo Ryan
Yeah, Crean is now as bad as Bo Ryan in my eyes..
I dislike Matta just because the way he looks bothers me and he whines a bit, but I dislike Izzo more.
I dislike Matta cause of his looks as well, shallow I know. But I respect him as a coach more this year for some reason. Can't stand crean and izzo whatsoever.
Izzo is right behind Crean for me. Where does all the Bo Ryan hate come from? I'm not disagreeing with it but just curious. I get that he has an annoying coaching style/system but is he a douche on the level of Izzo or Crean to warrant the rankings. Also want to say that I don't mind Matta besides him being the coach of OSU and looking like a goblin. He just wins a lot but I've heard mutterings on the board about him cheating but I don't remember there being evidence of him being a part of it.
I would like to add to that list the coach of the 4th grade girls' basketball team we played over the weekend. His team beat us 28 - 2. Yet, he pushed his team to press our team (only half court press is allowed in our league) until the clock went to 0.00, with a smile on his face the entire time, humiliating our 10 year old girls in their last game. So, it isn't just Big Ten coaches who can be classless dicks.
I don't know if you should hate a guy like this. You should feel sorry for hiim because he obviously has issues. Maybe his wife treats him like a fourth grade girl and this behavior is his compensatory mechanism for his lack of self-esteem.
Wendy, that is terrible! My 4th grader played this weekend, and she felt ill and the other team's coach gave us their time outs. That was nice.
But my son's team had a real jerk in baseball once that had his kid steal home to Mercy us!! Some parents are the worst, it's amazing. I just want to yell, "more math, less sports! Your kid isn't going pro!!"
I don't hate Bo Ryan, don't see any reason to aside from his teams playing shitty basketball.
Don't hate Izzo, at all. Met him once, and he's pure class and not a single person I know who has met him has a single bad thing to say about him. And it's hard not to respect how good of a coach he is. I guess the only bad thing about him is that he coaches MSU and tries to argue/yell about calls, but which coach (aside from Beillein) doesn't do that?
Honestly, don't hate Crean either. He seems like a guy who wears his heart on his sleeve and his players seem to adore him. He yelled at one of our coaches for 'trying to ruin the program'. To me, that actually kind of shows how much passion he has for his team.
Matta? Aside from the fact he looks like the son of Satan and Gene Hackman, he's a really good coach who handles himself with class publically.
I know my opinion isn't very popular here but the word 'hate' gets thrown around this board too much. I really can't think of any coach (in any sport) who makes me want to waste my energy hating. Dantonio, Jim Harbaugh, SAF? Meh, mild dislike Yeah, I hate OSU, MSU, and ND but I can't help but respect a lot of the coaches in the conference.
I've been on mgoblog a long time but one of the few things that bothers me about the boards is the general lack of respect for any team and anyone associated with any team that is not Michigan. I mean, I love my alma mater but why do we have to shit on everybody here?
If murder were legal Tom Crean would be one of my first targets.
Think you need to sit the next few plays out, chief
I was not being serious. He'd be farther down the list.
...I wouldn't be afraid of dropping the soap in the shower.
Someone on Twitter mentioned this whole thing was about an egg... Can someone shed some light onto that?
Are you sure it wasn't ego? As in, Tom Crean has an enormous ego, and as a result, is one of the largest assbags in NCAA history?
Here you go:
Basically our pregame speech before the game at Assembly Hall consisted of comparing IU to an egg. They think they're solid, but they're soft once you crack them. Didn't really go over too well once they got wind of it.
Crean is a grade A douche. Problem is, he and Indiana are going to be very good for quite a while. I will be shocked if the Big 10 doesn't bring some national titles home over the next few years.
Well, if it's not us, I hope it's Northwestern... :)
They might be very good for a while, they might not. It's too early to tell. Crean is 33-57 at Indiana in conference play. He's had one good year with two lottery picks.
To say that would be equal to saying Beilein doesn't have this program on the upswing.
They both clearly do, take a closer look. Crean started with absolutely nothing (half the players were walk-ons). They couldn't win in a situation like that.
He's built the program up from there brick by brick, and now is pulling blue-chip recruits like Yogi Ferrell and Cody Zeller each year.
Indiana is a basketball-mad state and program...and much like Notre Dame football, they were in the dumps for years. When they're on, they're a blue-blood like Duke, UCLA, Kansas and Kentucky.
Crean has built the program up brick-by-brick? It's Indiana. Their program has been built up for decades. I'm not saying you're wrong, but to conclude that they will be very good for a long time under Crean is premature.
Fair enough. I'm inclined to think that they will keep winning, though.
Maybe, but if so, it will be because of talent, not Crean. He's a pretty mediocre in-game coach, and I thought Beilein put on a clinic today against him with the exception of using the timeout too early.
Hulz and Watford are Srs, Oladipo is a Jr and likely gone to NBA, Zeller as a So might go NBA as he is ready, and Sheehy is a Jr so only 1 year.
They beat us with a very experienced group and their best team in ages. Crean is also a shaky in-game coach, and I'm speaking from his years at Marquette with loads of talent and even this team.
I wouldn't really say he had loads of talent at Marquette. He had Dwayne.
He also didn't do that well at Marquette.
Well, he won 70% of his games, went to a Final Four, and went to the tourney 5 out 9 years he was there. He did pretty good, considering Marquette was struggling a bit before he got there.
Which year are you counting as not good, this year or last year?
Take a guess.
This all go back to Meyer being an assistant for that cheating bastard Kelvin Sampson while at Indiana?
Pretty harsh words for Mr. Crean. I think he has done an ubelievable job. I am not an Indiana fan but where they came from and where they are right now, well, no one can talk down about Tom Crean. I was at the game, Crean shook hands w/Michigan. He got into a heated exchange about recruiting with Jeff Meyer (goes back a bit with them). Crean handled himself professionally, with class the whole game as did Belein. Two of the classier coaches in the league. Izzo, and others are a joke. Michigan will be back on top of the big ten this year and will also win the big ten championship next week. Quit taking shots at Crean and those who said he was saying "shutup" to the Michigan bench are just being ridiculous. I was right there, he never said a dang thing people. He was shouting instructions to his players the whole game and never said one bad thing about anyone and that goes for Belein as well. The only person I heard cussing was Jeff Meyer. And by the way and for the record. Tom Crean does not cuss at all. He never has and never will Total class.
you know the rest
"I am not an Indiana fan"
So how are you related to Tom Crean?
Jim Harbaugh uses MGoBlog?
grade A douche , really. He supports charities, is a loving father and husband. Does plenty for the school he coaches and has a lot of respect for EVERY other team in the BIGTEN to include coaches and assistants. Calling him a douche really shows your ignorance, age, and your maturity.
Every coach supports charities. That comes with the job. Why did you join just to post these two comments. Are you related to Coach Crean?
your board is a joke.
Great, he's not a villain in all walks of life. Doesn't change the fact that during basketball games he's a total jackass. But then, that's just what IU fans seem to go for.
And a douche..
Simple fact of the matter is - our boys hit their free throws they win the game. They didn't. No excuse for that. All the posts on here sound like sour grapes. Go blue.
Really - there is little excuse for us losing that game, we should be celebrating as the rightful big ten champs. I mean the front end of 2 1-1s? Really? All I can say is hopefully we can make a statement in the big 10 tourney and make a good run in the NCAA.
They just showed video on the local news of crean walking up to meyer after the game putting his finger in his face and yelling "you wrecked our program! you know what you did! you helped wreck our program!" before someone on his staff restrained him. crean then walked away chuckling.
After he walked away laughing I am left to wonder what that was really all about.
He probably walked away laughing because he is an ass and enjoys being an ass.
He probably got off there.
I'll be honest, I respect nearly all of the big 10 coaches, they are part of the reason why we are the strongest conference in the country, but this is one of the most classless things you could do after a loss. This statement has nothing to do with our own performance, but it doesn't get more classless than to not shake any of the opponents hands then confront an assistant too. Crean you are burning bridges and making enemies, hope to see you in the BTT.
He knew what he was getting into when he took the job. Taunting Meyer after the fact is the ultimate sign of a gigantic douchebag. Indiana can have him - I'm glad we have the class act Beilein.
Meyer was an assistant under Sampson at Indiana and Crean was apparently yelling something about wrecking the Indiana program.
Why did he choose to do this after this game? I'm not sure but I believe Michigan has indeed played Indiana before why must he feel compelled to act like this now? This was him just being douche and anyone who says otherwise is under his douche-spell.
The guy is emotionally unstable. Doesn't mean he is a bad coach, but I sure as hell don't want someone like him over Beilein. Most trolls here know zero about Meyer who is a class guy.
Yeah Motta looks goofy but he is my B10 COY.