LSAClassOf2000

August 7th, 2014 at 10:11 AM ^

Believe it or not, there is actually an answer to this question - "yes". I can still see the unpublished material (I deleted the thread which had no comments) and Duval Wolverine retains all points gained for the creation of a thread. Actually, if you post in a thread that it is later axed, you get to keep the points. I suppose it is sort of the virtual equivalent of a "participatn ribbon".

BlastDouble

August 7th, 2014 at 9:29 AM ^

of technique I see in this video. People lunging at the sled, no replacement step, leaning on the sled as opposed to rolling your hips under you and driving with your core, not having heads up when they hit the sled, no punch out of their stance, thumbs aren't up when they are making contact. This is Funk's last chance man!

BlastDouble

August 7th, 2014 at 9:57 AM ^

YOU just dont know what to look for, I went back and watched it again and Magnuson starts with his head down on that first clip, gets it up eventually, Braden also has his head down on contact, no punch, but he brings it up a second later. You see, thats too late, the LB has already blitzed by. Hand placement very poor, how are they gonna steer anyone? Getting your hips under you is key and they are leaning on these bags like a mofo. Very basic stuff actually that any Oline coach should be able to see (yes I am an Oline coach). We can just agree to disagree tho.

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LB

August 7th, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's just listing off things that he's heard about OL and acting like it's a critique, whether true or not.

Has anyone seen BlastDouble's credibility? Anyone? Ferris?

readyourguard

August 7th, 2014 at 9:44 AM ^

I just watched the entire clip again and paused at each point of impact.  Not ONCE did a linemen have his head down.  Every one of them had their face mask right in the defender's sternum.  Not sure I agree with your critiquenm on the rest either.

Space Coyote

August 7th, 2014 at 9:54 AM ^

On top of the fact that they were working on exploding low and through the core, controlling, and then extending. One time Braden looked to come in with his thumbs down against a pad too, so there was one time where it probably got corrected. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's just listing off things that he's heard about OL and acting like it's a critique, whether true or not. There were I believe two clips where you could even see the feet, and out of the three players, two did struggle with the replacement step being a bit slow, but we also weren't sure exactly what they were repping for and what situation they were repping against.

BlastDouble

August 7th, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^

they are repping against. Technique is technique. The way you perfect it is through muscle memory, which takes reps. Remember, practice doesn't make perfect, PERFECT practice makes perfect. I know what you are saying tho, its just that these guys have been in the program too long to be making these mistakes.

Space Coyote

August 7th, 2014 at 10:12 AM ^

A great line, and I agree.

I didn't see problems with helmet or punch with the sleds. I thought they had their eyes on the numbers, hands with thumbs up punched to knock off balance, control, extend. I thought the issues mostly came against the pad, but it's difficult to tell where their eyes are. They weren't in pads, and it looked like some had loose helmets (not sure why), but head is still a bit low, but can't see where eyes are.

It's clear that they are working against pad/sled at being covered and next to a guy that's covered. They are working on first level blocking, so their eyes are on the defender covering them. I'm sure there are other drills where they are working on combo blocks, working with 2nd level defenders, etc, where they are working on where to take their eyes to get the 2nd level defender. I don't think that's the intention here though.

BlastDouble

August 7th, 2014 at 10:17 AM ^

Maybe I just expect to see it every time at this level, i think you are right about the first level drills, but again you must train your muscles through repetition, did you notice how they aren't even rolling their hips under them after like 2 or 3 steps on the sled, a couple did, I think it was Dawson. As Im sure you know, not getting your hips under you affects your center of gravity, and in turn, your balance, making yourself susceptible to Dline moves. Anywho, I appreciate a constructive conversation here. Too many times people get on the defensive.

Space Coyote

August 7th, 2014 at 10:27 AM ^

Where the one that left their 2nd step behind them. Once they lost their stance by remaining too wide, they lost their hips. But the ones that got the 2nd foot correct drove through with their hips, IMO.

BlastDouble

August 7th, 2014 at 10:30 AM ^

for the intelligent discussion and not becoming instantaneously defensive when I posted criticism about our players and coach. Refreshing to discuss football with someone knowledgable also. Im glad someone else sees what I see. You know, I have always been a firm believer in addition by subtraction (lewan) and think this line will take huge steps forward due to increased chemistry and accountability.

Magnus

August 7th, 2014 at 1:23 PM ^

"Remember, practice doesn't make perfect, PERFECT practice makes perfect."

All this proves is that you are literate enough to read motivational posters and/or regurgitate motivational statements. I can do that, too.

Remember, everyone: A journey of 1,000 miles begins with a single step.

BlastDouble

August 7th, 2014 at 1:58 PM ^

Ive only just begun. Up at 5 w my 3 month old, helped a buddy u load and install doors on a sorority house, mowed my lawn, tore out my front garden, sprayed it and my lawn with weed killer, walked my dog, kissed my wife, and ate two meals. So ive been busy, gotta go pack for a week vacation up at our cabin, fixen to get drunk on the pontoon all week. Dont worry I dont have reception up there so you wont have to read my posts. Have a good one.

RedGreene

August 7th, 2014 at 2:14 PM ^

You have a wife and 3 month old and you're "fixen" to get drunk all week on your pontoon?  Why am I not surprised?

Magnus

August 7th, 2014 at 2:45 PM ^

LOL. I don't follow or tweet at any teenagers. You can go check out my Twitter feed if you would like to prove otherwise.

Nice try, though.

LSAClassOf2000

August 7th, 2014 at 2:44 PM ^

Well, I think we've let this go on long enough, eh? You're not exactly helping yourself out by, for example, tell people to "fuck off" and getting generally combative - dare I say abusive in a couple posts - with the community at large. To that end, Bolivia until the end of the month and please try in the future not to turn threads that are supposed to be relatively jovial and innocuous in their conversation into borderline shitshows.

GoBLUinTX

August 7th, 2014 at 11:55 AM ^

None of them are exhibiting an aggressive knockout type punch, they just aren't.  A simple comparison, look at the video clip of Frank Clark from day 1.  Now imagine those aggressive punches and the impact they'd have on the lean forward blocking of Magnuson and Braden.

I'm going to wreck a TV real quick this season if the OL continues to react to the DL instead of taking control of the DL.

BlastDouble

August 7th, 2014 at 1:19 PM ^

they generally all take step right or left, engage with whoever is in their area, combo block to double team come offs to the LBs. They block an area and then climb, so in theory it they should not be reacting to the slants/stunts, but taking whoever comes to them. Respectfully...i guess.

Space Coyote

August 7th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^

DL hand fighting is going to generally be more aggressive. They are trying to escape a block, not trying to control player. While the punch needs to improve, certainly (need to get the defender off balance, then you can more easily control them and move them), I think:

1) These drills are focused on proper technique and movements more than speed; they may be 75% drills

2) OL isn't as much a knock out punch as DL, again, because you are trying to control the defender. You want to knock off balance but maintain control. The DL, wants to shed their block entirely, they want to knock the OL off balance and gain space to operate.

Now, double blast is correct here about adjusting to the defense. You should never chase in a zone scheme. The way you react to a defense is with your eyes. But to be able to have your eyes correctly targeted, you need to control your blocker.

Here's what I said about it zone blocking the other day in Seth's Hokepoints post:

"So, let's imagine for a second that you have two initial steps, and then each linemen is on railroad tracks. On inside zone, let's say you're covered, that first step will be 45 degrees with the playside foot about to the playside shoulder/outside arm of your defender. Your second step, your replacement step, will quickly follow (don't cross your feet, but your first three steps need to be as fast as possible: first to get position, second to regain balance and strength, third to fire into defender with power) to the backside number or midpoint of the defender. Your feet are perpendicular to the LOS, and now you are attached to railroad tracks where the only way you can move is in a straight line perpendicular to the LOS. Don't chase your blocks, don't stray. If you can't get your hat across the defender's hat, the turn his shoulder and seal him outside, but keep working forward on your track. That track is your zone.

Now, it's essentially the same if you're uncovered (with different aiming points with your feet for the combo block). But you're still going to stay on your track to the next level. Any backer comes on your tracks, you run them over."

So yeah, that's a fairly high level look at it, but the point is you stay in your zone or on your track and you adjust to the defense with your eyes.