October 1st, 2009 at 10:35 PM ^
Depends on if they use the same guy they used for Henne
October 1st, 2009 at 10:39 PM ^
Not as quickly as Denard
October 1st, 2009 at 10:45 PM ^
but it should take approx. 10-15 minutes to work around the joint. Yet, it might take 1-3 days for it to take away any inflammation. I am not a Dr., but that is what happened when I got shot in my shoulder.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:49 PM ^
Ah, looks like there's a difference between "working around the joint" and taking away the inflammation. The important question, I think, is how long until the pain goes away? It sounds like Tate's bruise is all about pain management.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:22 AM ^
me to rotate the shoulder to work it around the joint. The sever pain went away relatively fast, but the overall discomfort took 1-3 days depending on what I was doing. I am not a 19 year old athlete though either. It may work quicker. Do we not have any MGoDoctors on MGoBlog that can answer this?
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 AM ^
and what is being said is fairly accurate. The thing is the cortisone shot doesn't take away the pain, it reduces inflamation (which over time will reduce the pain, but not immediately).
I suspect that Tate is getting some type of local anesthetic in his shoulder that will numb the shoulder for the game and the cortisone to remove the inflamation over time.
He could get multiple shots of the anesthetic throughout the game if necessary and its effects are virtually immediate. It could take anywhere from 1-5 minutes to take full effect, but usually you notice it within a minute.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:40 AM ^
I had 2 or 3 shots in my hip. In short, I was given a local that numbs the area (I don’t remember what medicine it was.) The cortisone shot did not have any effect until the next day with my hip.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 AM ^
Did you sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night?
October 1st, 2009 at 10:46 PM ^
This site suggests at least a few days:
http://orthopedics.about.com/b/2008/05/29/how-long-before-a-cortisone-i…
That can't be right though, can it? I feel like I've seen NFL players come back like one or two drives after taking the shot, no?
October 1st, 2009 at 10:50 PM ^
Dan Marino saying he needed shots in his knee during halftime just to come out for the second half - so I don't think the process can take too long.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:52 PM ^
Yeah that doesn't seem right. And in all seriousness about Henne, according to here, he was given shots the day of the Wisconsin game.
http://michigansportscenter.com/2007/12/new-years-eve-eve-quick-hits-ne…
Michigan doctors had just given Henne, the team’s star quarterback, a cortisone shot to numb his shoulder, which Henne had dislocated three weeks earlier at Illinois. Still, the shoulder did not feel right.
“So I went back in the locker room and said, ‘Something feels stretchy back here,’ ” Henne recalled. “They said, ‘We’ll put a little bit more in.’ They didn’t use a lot. So they put a little bit more in.”
One of the cortisone shots had hit a nerve, numbing Henne from the shoulder down to his fingers.
Trainer Paul Schmidt, who has worked at Michigan since 1986, told Henne he had never seen it happen.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:08 PM ^
that's pretty crazy.
chad henne was one tough dude.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:45 PM ^
That errant shot possibly cost us the Wisky Game, OSU, the Big Ten Title, who knows what else.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 AM ^
IIRC, hitting a nerve is VERY unlikely and was more a freak occurrence than anything else.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 AM ^
Some people just aren't good at giving shots, it happens far more than you'd think. Still, the reporting here is not very accurate IME. Cortisone will not numb anything, it is an anti-inflamatory drug and reduces inflamation over time. This would not take effect over halftime of a football game. They must have been using a local anesthetic in these cases (Marino and Henne).
October 1st, 2009 at 11:15 PM ^
if he needs a cortisone shot during the game, he should probably sit.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:20 AM ^
and other steroids take several days to reduce inflammation, and cortisone itself doesn't "numb" anything. Local anesthetics (marcaine, lidocaine, etc.) work quickly and actually cause numbness.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 AM ^
matches my experience MMB
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:25 AM ^
If Tate needs an appendectomy just before halftime, could he be back for the 4th quarter?
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:24 AM ^
Tate's appendix was replaced with moxie years ago.
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 AM ^
At this point I'm convinced that Tate is indestructible.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 AM ^
It's the lidocaine mixed in with the cortisone that gives almost immediate relief. The steroids need some time, at least a couple days, for the full benefit.
I've had at least 10 of these injections over the years prior to rotator cuff surgeries.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tate received a shot earlier this week though.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 AM ^
Yep, cortisone is usually the last "bandaid" before surgery is needed. I went through the 3 shot limit in the course of a summer before my senior year in HS. I had surgery a year later. Cortisone is not good. Having played baseball in college, I'm all to familiar with cortisone shots. Not one person that needed a shot, didn't end up under the knife. If I were Tate, I'd stay away from Cortisone and try more natural methods of relief.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 AM ^
I have had many of these shots and have always been told that it takes 1 to 3 days. If I had to guess he probably received one wed. In order for it to take effect in time but the bad thing is that once it works he will not be healed. It will just take some of the inflamation away giving the feeling of being healed. He will be more prone to hurting it again if he is not careful.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:53 AM ^
These players are a special breed. I don't have any experience with it, but I'm guessing that the adrenaline and desire to return to the field, mixed with getting a shot which you expect to begin easing your pain will get most of these players back moving towards that field in a hurry, even before it takes its full effect. Tate, Henne, Marino are all tough nuts. I just don't want to be around when that wears off.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:28 AM ^
if Chad Penne's arm was limp from the cortizone shot or if it was al dente?
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 AM ^
Well normally penne pasta is stiff until you boil it and then it goes limp.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 AM ^
Is cortisone the same shot given to the running back in Varsity Blues? Based on my understanding from the movie, someone needs to step up and give a James Vanderbeek-esque speech to the trainers, or else Tate's shoulder is done for and he'll have to transfer to a historically black university when he could've been a star.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 AM ^
and ladies if your out there... He isn't on the injury report. And he practiced rather regularly this week for a QB - so I would say that he doesn't need a shot.
Just some logic, but it would not make much sense to have him practice throwing slants and screens if he would need the shot...