MGoShtoink

January 13th, 2011 at 9:49 AM ^

If I'm here and you're here, doesn't it make it our site?

And there's nothing wrong with a little criticism on our site.

EDIT... Plus... Brian gets paid for us visiting his site and voicing our criticism, whether it's directed at him, Michigan, the AD, RR, whoever...

So you ask him if he cares that we criticize.

King Douche Ornery

January 13th, 2011 at 9:45 AM ^

No. Wrong asnwer. If Brian wants it that way (and you as well)--he can form his own Secret Blog, charge 9.99 per month, and you all can congratulate each other on how you know more than anyone elts because of that Super Secret Blog that ONLY a few select guys read.

tdeshetler

January 13th, 2011 at 9:39 AM ^

Regardless of personal choice, I think it’s clear the division in the athletic department was real and very disruptive.  Dave Brandon subtly made a number of points that could be construed as pot shoots toward the old coaching staff.

We know who the OC is, but what would set Brady apart would be his ability to add young guys to the staff to mentor and build into the next generation of Michigan leadership. 

His Dudeness

January 13th, 2011 at 9:40 AM ^

Caller says USC recruited guys from Michigan (fails to recall they paid them).

says it is all about recruiting.

says we proved we can recruit nationally

says Cook shouldn't be on the radio.

Cook says evidence is on his side (which is true)

says michigan under Lloyd cant compete with a Pac Ten and SEC team and will be the same with Hoke. We will get crushed in bowl games.

Wolverrrrrrroudy

January 13th, 2011 at 10:26 AM ^

And also, I don't find it that odd that USC or for that matter any Pac 10 team has an advantage playing in Southern California.  It is better than a home game.  The Big 10 has a 3 hour jet lag to contend with along with the other normal disadvantages.  We don't seem to have the same problems with Florida bowl games, at least under Carr.

Indiana Blue

January 13th, 2011 at 11:15 AM ^

But in the Carr years only 1 of those games was not in a bowl (W over Vandy).  So he was 1 - 0 regular season against the SEC and 5 - 2 in bowl games.  Not shabby at all ... 

I am guessing that Brian was convinced that Lloyd's style of play in the 90's and '00's could not compete with today's SEC teams .... and college football has changed a lot in the last decade.   But he confused Carr's actual record vs. SEC with Carr's football style and approach (IMO).

Go Blue !

BRCE

January 13th, 2011 at 1:51 PM ^

How is evidence on Cook's side? His precious "schematic advantage" (Charlie Weis TM) produced painfully slow progress here and in Year 3 still wasn't enough to even COMPETE with the best teams on our schedule. I agree with Brian more times than not, but I was embarrassed for him listening to that dreck.

His Dudeness

January 13th, 2011 at 9:44 AM ^

Cook says we will recruit better and win more under Hoke, but will not be a national power.

Hokes best win is beating Navy in the bowl game (which is true :(

Evidence that Hoke is "good" is that players have come back to say he is "good"

Webb asks how stanford is good with a pro style.

Cook says that was harbaugh who is now making 5MIL in the NFL, not Hoke.

Harbaugh proves he can recruit, Hoke has not.

Says Hoke probably recruited well here because it was Michigan not because it was Hoke.

turd ferguson

January 13th, 2011 at 10:29 AM ^

After watching Hoke yesterday, I really think that he'll be a hell of a recruiter. 

I've never been recruited as a football player, but I'd bet that a big part of recruiting is convincing kids and their families that you genuinely care about them and will care for them in school and beyond.  He's going to be able to do that.  Sure, there are a handful of kids/families who don't care about that stuff at all and just want flashy coaches to turn them into celebrities.  This is a small group, though, that isn't necessarily composed of the best players in the country and probably doesn't have a lot of kids whom I'd like to see at Michigan.

BRCE

January 13th, 2011 at 1:55 PM ^

His Dudeness fails to tell us how Rich Rod could have made us a "national power" when in his third year he couldn't make us an average Big Ten team. Cook can't either.

In no way against teams with superior talent this past year did I feel like we had this SCHEMATIC ADVANTAGE.

Mitch Cumstein

January 13th, 2011 at 9:44 AM ^

and he is completely back peddling and just said "Harbaugh recruited nationally".  Yet he doesn't think Michigan can.  What a joke.  Michigan can recruit on the level Harbaugh did at Stanford. 

MCGamechanger

January 13th, 2011 at 9:44 AM ^

So what is Brian's solution, keep Rich Rod who was 15-22 in three years and 0-6 against MSU and OSU. Rich Rod obviously did not understand what Michigan was and made the program more about himself than about MIchigan. He needs to come out of his mom's basement and see the light more often

King Douche Ornery

January 13th, 2011 at 9:48 AM ^

Brain says, "After the bowl game, Rodriguez had to go"

However, this segment has enlightened me: Brain is not a journalist. He is a bloggist and a fan.

Sam Webb is asking Brian a ton of good questions, give his counter arguments--Brian really has no answer.

Sam Webb will not win any Pulitzer Prizes anytime soon--but he shows to be more of a journalist here than Brian. Brian, unfortunately, is coming off as very snarky.

GBOD79

January 13th, 2011 at 10:14 AM ^

Brian himself would never claim to be a journalist. He is a fan that writes a blog about his favorite team. It just so happens that the blog is very good.

I think we all need to take a time out and chill. So Brian is not thrilled with the Hoke hire, get over it.

mackbru

January 13th, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^

No. It's infuriating when people say "Brian isn't a journalist. He's a blogger." That's such a cheap excuse. Brian is effectively both. He routinely reports news for a widely read blog. His cc reports were presented as reportage, based on his contacts and expertise. They were taken as such. If they were presented as just random speculation, nobody would give a shit.

You don't get a pass just because you call it a blog, as opposed to a newspaper. Plenty of blogs are both. If we're gonna hold other reporters accountable for their flaws, then we ought to hold Brian to similar standards.

Wolverrrrrrroudy

January 13th, 2011 at 10:21 AM ^

In general, being on Radio is an acquired skill.  I wouldn't read too much into it.   Does not mean Brian isn't a good journalist.  Clearly he is a fan, but I do think it was much too soon to go on the radio.  Need a couple of months for things to calm down.  Right now no one knows whether Hoke will be good. 

I can tell you this though.  For those who say RR never had support, going 3-9 and not getting fired required significant support in year 1 alone.  He lost support over time.  And for those who think Hoke is getting too much support (like Carr - at least to me there seemed to be far too much criticism of Carr compared to RR), I can guarantee another 3-9 season next year will spell DOOM for Hoke.  No excuses will be acceptable this time. 

Vasav

January 13th, 2011 at 9:51 AM ^

Rich Rod came up with the phrase, "All in for Michigan." And the fact that this team is staying together for Hoke is because, in my opinion, Rich Rod instilled in them "The Team" ethos that your avatar brought here forty years ago. That ethos was not there when RR arrived.

Rich Rod failed because of defense. He's a good guy and a Michigan Man in every sense of the word. Let's not kick a good man when he's down. And hopefully, one year from now, let's thank him for setting us up for success under Hoke.

dahblue

January 13th, 2011 at 10:27 AM ^

Can we please bury the "all in" phrase.  That might be the worst thing RR brought to A2.  I agree that RR was a "Michigan Man" (anyone who works there ass off for the school earns that title in my view), but "all in" has been divisive from day 1.  It's about being "all in" for RR, not the program.  When he spoke in front of "Detractors Not Allowed", it was even more clear.

Let's just stick with what Brady said, "This is Michigan", and put the past in the past.

His Dudeness

January 13th, 2011 at 9:46 AM ^

Cook says when RR left the WV program did dip on offense.

Did need to go from Michigan. after the bowl game.

Just doesn't know about the Hoke hire making us a national power.

His Dudeness

January 13th, 2011 at 9:50 AM ^

Caller says Hoke is all about the lines.

says Hoke can recruit

says Hoke will bring us back because of the line play

Webb says Hoke recrutied very well at SDSU.

Cook says he likes that.

Cook says Robinson was the worst hire ever.

Brathwaitte was also a bad hire, no offense but it was his first job and at Michigan.

RR is respected offensively but the defensive guys are not (not hired quickly).

Cook wishes it would have worked out. Overlooked personal quirks. Wishes we could have hired a top end DC. It failed. Now we don't have a head coach who is an advantage against other teams. Says Chip Kelly is an advantage with all facets and he has won every where. (Hoke has not - unsaid).

UM Fan NY

January 13th, 2011 at 10:22 AM ^

 but can't we agree that we should at least let the guy actually COACH a game before we bury him? my problem with brian is it seems he let this radio thing really go to his head. does he honestly think he knows more about making executive decisions than brandon or more about coaching than hoke? i'm shocked his head can even fit in the studio.

His Dudeness

January 13th, 2011 at 10:32 AM ^

I don't think he is burying Hoke, in my opinion.

I think he is underwhelmed with the hire (which up until the rah rah speech we kind of all were.)

I think he may have felt that if we are trading RR for Harbaugh then that is fine, but trading RR for Hoke was stupid (I dont want to put words in his mouth). If that is the case then I agree with Biff.

NOTE: This is all my opinion. I have no contact with Biff other than my addiction to his blog.  

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

January 13th, 2011 at 10:03 AM ^

I don't think there's as much hypocrisy there as you think.  People submarined RR from the beginning because he was an outsider, spoke with a drawl, OMG wouldn't pay his buyout, and by the time the discussion got to what he had accomplished and what he brought to the field, the Rosenbergites didn't want to hear about it.  Brian is less than enthused about Hoke because of what he's done and hasn't done on the field.

dahblue

January 13th, 2011 at 10:21 AM ^

That's not accurate.  There may indeed have been a small group of insiders who opposed the RR hire, but the majority of the public supported him.  It wasn't just that initial "approval" or lackthereof that Mgoblog was so angry about.  Any comment that RR might not be able to turn water into wine (based on things like...his stats and record at Michigan) was greeted with angry, swearing insults (plus "not all in", "not a fan", "turn in your tickets", etc.).

The real laugher is that a common excuse for RR's failure was "It's the fans fault because they didn't support him from day 1".  So, if you really believe that...why would you give that treatment to Hoke?  RR lost his job because of his performance; not his accent.  The folks who can't get over that, really ought to practice what they (so angrily) preached.