Cook on WTKA now

Yeah, but those same people's "All-Star" cast were almost uniformly coaches that were assistants at Michigan in the past.  I don't care where the assistants have come from, I want the best that Hoke could get.  

I'm in agreement on Borges though, not necessarily impressed with the hire.  I will say one thing about him, he's done the true west coast offense at UCLA, led more of a power offense at Auburn and spread it out with a passing attack at SDSU.  He at least seems willing to conform his style to either the head coach's desire (Auburn) or the ability at hand (SDSU).  Hopefully, somewhere along the way, he's picked up some schemes to take advantage of a mobile QB.  

Yes, *that* Old Guard.  With some exceptions, of course, the expression "deafening silence" comes to mind when I recall the RichRod hire and the months afterward.  When there was noise (as with the #1 issue twisted beyond recognition by Diva Edwards), it often wasn't friendly.

Oh, at what point did I question the football credentials of the Old Guard?  Are you one of those who'd exempt former players from criticism no matter what they do?  Along the same lines, do you think Brian Cook is just an "Internet whiner baby?"  Would you rather just read Rosenberg articles?

My point was to contrast the Old Guard's enthusiasm for Hoke with the meh reception they gave Rodriguez.  You missed my point and, instead, got emotional.

Well, I don't know about you, but the opinions of Charles Woodson, Tom Brady, Mike Hart and countless other former Wolverine greats counts for something.

The number of former players who have come out for this guy is overwhelming.  That counts for something.  Everyone who knows him or has played for his can't stop singing his praises.  I can't wait to see Hoke turn us around and make those who are critical eat their words.

I get that some are pissed that RR wasn't treated fairly.  To that, I agree.  But let's not take that and turn it into resentment of Hoke. 

One other note:  I know that he is not an exciting hire, but let's look at the lat two Michigan hires:

1.  Lloyd Carr - boring as all hell, takes over and wins a NC within 2 years, as well as numerous B10 titles

2.  RR - big name hire, exciting coach, sizzle factor - breaks just about every single negative Michigan record en route to the 3 worst seasons in M histors

Not a criticism of RR - I supported him and was ALL IN from day 1, but the point is that sometimes the big name hires don't work as well as the hires that just fit the school.

I didn't get to hear all of what he said so far, but the bit I did catch I don't agree with. He said we can never recruit at the level of USC, Alabama and those schools and that a pro-offense won't work unless you can. I just don't agree with that and in fact if you look at the recruiting numbers it's completely un-true if you agree with recruiting rankings at all.

If you take out the last 3 or 4 years.....how many NFL players does Michigan have in the NFL vs. Alabama, USC, Texas and so on. I bet it's pretty comparable.

If your players are on board with you, and by all accounts that was the case

The players were not all on board with RR during his first two years.  To the contrary, it was widely reported that some of the older players were not "all in" and were a cancer to the team.  Of course, if RR had taken steps to correct this--such as kicking the players in question off the team--he would have been subjected to another huge shitstorm in the media.  So RR was stuck with Carr-era players who didn't like him and who were poisoning the river downstream, so to speak.  Don't think for a minute that the disrepectful and negative attitudes of some of these players didn't rub off on underclassmen recruited by RR.

that RR will never again have a winning season ANYWHERE with a defenisve staff as incompetent as the one HE CHOSE at Michigan.

He fucked that up. ROYALLY. The buck stops with HIM.

Hell, I put more care and thought into what kind of shoes I buy my kids than he did in picking the greatest collection of defensive imbecils ever assembled.

131 years of Michigan football proves my point. The 3 worst defenses BY FAR in our program's history.

You CANNOT fuck up staffing decisions that bad and expect to stay. Sorry.

Rodriguez will go somewhere else and do well.  Most likely in the Big East or ACC.  You can win there from time to time with a poor defense and very good offense.  It doesn't work at Michigan, it won't work in the Big Ten, and it doesn't work in the SEC.  There's no doubt the passion Coach Rod had, and he knows his offensive football, but his downfall will always be how he couldn't let the defensive coordinator coach that side of the ball the best way they knew how.  It's a shame but it's time to move on, and wish Coach Rod the best and wish Coach Hoke the best.

GO BLUE!!!!

He looks like an idiot now.  No need for hypotheticals. 

Jesus, dude. Chill out.