Keep the commit train rolling. Hopefully just the first of a few this weekend!
Conley Announcing Tomorrow
...it's rather more of a recruiting bullet train really. It's looks pretty darn good to have that many strong verbal commits in such a short span. The #20 CB in the nation per Rivals is certainly welcome.
hmmm...can someone get out their crayons and do a winged-helmet "trains-formation" on that bullet train?
I love how mspeedkills attached this picture to his tweet within 15 minutes of you posting this comment. You think he reads mgoblog much?
I bet he picks FSU
Mike, you dont say.
"Hey Brady, can I use your office for a few minutes. Gotta call Jimbo."
Good. In that case, I'll re-buckle.
are you doing unbuckled when we're riding a speeding bullet train for recruiting?!!! DO YOU KNOW HOW DANGEROUS THAT SOUNDS!!!!!
Did you know it is a crime to travel in the MgoBus and not be buckled up? -1 to you and you receive an MGoTicket.
Remember Kids: Click It, or Ticket.
But....but....I thought it was safe to un buckle Monday through Friday?! The speeding bullet train seems to hit top speed every weekend. A man's got to unbuckle every now and again, right? Plus if you unbuckle, it is really exciting to re-buckle.
Ehh....maybe you're right, though. Maybe permanent buckling is in order...
Seems like a solid pickup, but sometimes I wish the staff would slow down a bit and save some additional spots for all of the elite blue chips we are in on.
With the needs locked down, that's what they're doing now. Plus, don't get deceived by Conley's offer list. Very smooth for a 6'2 CB.
Magnus said he's like J.T. Floyd.
I don't think he's a burner by any means, but IMO he's a better athlete than Floyd is.
Agreed. He looks much quicker than Floyd.
I agree, too. There's no way that he's blocking extra points off the edge like that (in the clip below) if he's slow.
He reminds me of Steve Breaston, tall and skinny, it doesn't look like he's going that fast with those long strides but he's running away from everybody. I know he plays a diferent position but the kick return was very reminiscent of Breaston.
I feel like his opinions are mostly somewhat to very different from the major, respected, recruiting services. And I haven't seen anything that would vindicate those opinions.
I don't want to turn this into a Magnus-bashing thread, although I know that's not your intention.
IMO, Magnus just gives his plain and honest opinion. It varies sometimes from other sites, because most other sites are (a) homers, or (b) unwilling to criticize the kid too harshly because they rely on his interview to get subscribers. I respect Magnus' work more than any other evaluations I read out there.
I like that Magnus isn't a fan boy but he takes it in another direction completely. His act is to be bullish on all recruits in an effort to differentiate himself from other Michigan sites. Now he is no Valenti, but then again who is. He is more like those Muppets that sit up in the balcony and didn't like anything.
don't you mean bearish? He's generally not a "OMG UBER 'CRUIT" guy
Without Magnus, we'd think every one of our recruits was a stud every year. It's a good reality check and you're allowed to disagree if you like someone's film. That said, I think his speciality is linemen but at least he's specific about it; he backs up his criticisms very well. I know I don't really look out for 'knee bend' or first step very much.
Oh wait, db not rb…
A bird in the hand, my friend.
Just how the coaches are calling off the uncommitted LB recruits, I'm sure they'd do the same thing at other positions if they felt there were elite recruits we had a good shot at or were worth waiting for. Or maybe the coaches think Conley is that good. Scout has him as the #20 CB in the country, which is pretty solid.
Another thing to consider is that the coaches look for 2 different types of corners. One of the reasons they liked Standifer was his size and ability to play the boundary-type corner spot that J.T. Floyd does.
Add Conley in with Jourdan Lewis whose more of a pure cover corner and you've got a very strong pair of CB's in this class
I watched his film and at his size, he will be a great pick up. Kid can fly and accelerates quickly most importantly.
World's biggest punter at :15.
That can block for himself while punting.
Not directly related to the announcement but around the 15 second mark of his highlights is pretty hilarious. A defensive tackle sized punter throws an interception to Conley...definitely one of the more unique plays I've ever seen.
Edit: Seems people have the same observations as I do.
I thought he might have accidentally posted Orlando Brown's highlight film.
Well Brown is a CB...
he is actually an offensive tackle that is 6'10 360
Don't necessarily think they need to slow down but we're right in there for some top talent at CB and it would be nice to let a few of those recruitments play out a bit first.
Ummmm why? We are already in on plenty of blue chip recruits, would you rather recruits string the coaches along the whole time only to pick other schools? Jordan Diamond, and Joshua Garnett are prime examples.
It would seem easier to get kids to stay committed to your school, rather than trying to get them to commit in the first place.
Another thing, rating a recruit is highly subjective, it is possible the coaches have Conley higher rated than the recruiting services. I value a Hoke, Mattison opinion over Alan Trieu, or Tom Lemming or whatever recruiting guru you want to name. I appreciate what Trieu and Lemming do but I can't give their opinion more weight than our coaches.
P.S. I have no idea what opinion Trieu and Lemming have of Conley, I was just making a general point.
I was responding to the post way above that said we should slow down and wait for high caliber players. I wasn't saying why do we want him, the coaches know more about these kids than any of us. Any kid that commits is a solid prospect in my book.
Absolutely. Remember, Michigan has a full staff of experienced, well-funded football minds scouting their players. They have great access to recruits films, their coaches, and the recruits themselves. And they can focus their attention on a much smaller group of recruits than Lemming or Trieu. Not only that, but the gurus rate a guy on how well he'll do in college in general, and our coaches "rate" a kid based on how well he'll do at Michigan, in our system.
Point is, if Hoke and Co. really like a guy, but Lemming doesn't - side with Hoke. He has a lot more riding on that decision than Lemming does anyway.
Well Put. These coaches get their intel from numerous sources.... these services are for our entertainment....
A kid the coaches really like. I think I'll take their word over the recuiting gurus.
And yet, you'll be more excited if we land 5* Ty Isaac this weekend, or shock the world and land another 5*.
You'll say it's all the same, but .. it's not.
You mean like Garnett? And Diamond?
I bet they regret taking Blake Bars' commitment when Garnett and Diamond were out there.
If I remember correctly, Pipkens was not on anyone's radar last year. Standifer was another example that gained attention after Michigan's offer and if not for the missing language classes was picking up alot of attention as well.
Given that many HS players continue to grow and develop I would give a lot of string to the fact that the coaches are picking up on very good talent very early in the process.
In a way a see your point, buuuuuut one of the reasons we are having so much success with this class is because we got the job done early last year and were able to start concentrating on 2013 before anyone else in the Midwest. I specifically remember when we were all over Taco Charleton and it was like last summer. He said something along the lines of he didnt grow up a Mich fan and was more of an OSU guy. When asked about his recruitment in the fall he said that Mich was by far and away showing him the most love and that paid off for us in a big way. The name Malick McDowell is another bit of positivity when it comes to our efforts in the 2013 class being put together so early as he will be a bigtime prospect, and we are his first Bigtime offer (no the Cuse doesnt count). I personally think thats why we will not only finish strong in 2013, but we will also start very strong in 2014.
what is HALOL i know its laugh out load but whats the HA?
maybe he can go to work on ty isaac while he's in town.
The one time I actually catch breaking Michigan news, I post a topic, and then see the same topic posted one minute beforehand. Now my thread is deleted.
Damn you MGoBlog! Damn you all to hell.
Seriously, though, Conley's a damn good pick-up and if anything it keeps the commit train rolling. Holding out hope Ty Issac sees the light emanating from Shane Morris.
another Stark County Ohio kid I can go watch any Friday I want too. Massilion Ohio is a powerhouse and the same school Justin Turner and Shawn Crable came from.
Don't ge too excited. This is just a clever and thorough ploy to have everyone think that he is going to verbal to UM, but in reality, he is going to verbal to Northwestern....
I bet Urban Meyer is behind it, that sly devil.
But I'm starting to think that Coach Hoke really doesn't care if we recruiting-watchers have nothing to do all summer...I mean, what, are we supposed to go out and be in the sun? Play golf? Sail down the Mississippi in a raft? This is a serious issue...
Hoke doesn't respect the fanbase... he needs to remember who writes the checks. I'm not saying it's right, but there's no way the blue hairs stand for this. Maybe you can get away with this at San Diego Tech or whatever, but not here. Hoke's about to get run out on a rail and it's his fault, just dumb.
Malik McDowell commit watch, of course! Only 23 months until NSD 2014!!!
but maybe that is his genius idea. if i can just finish this class before the summer...there will be so many um recruiting sites that can do real people stuff instead of wearing out their f5 key.
rivals sure is slacking on this kid
Within a week or 2 of his commitment to Michigan they will have something on him. Prob a generic 3-star and then if he does some camps and does well then he'll have the opportunity to move up. It would be nice to see him have a great seaon and garner a 4th star but its not the end of the world.
How might this affect Vernon Hargreaves III and Kendall Fuller? I'm guessing at least one of them would have a spot come NSD if they want to go blue.
Wed likely keep pursuing them and possibly save a spot for them based on their interest level. There will always be certain guys the staff will save spots for, but you don't want to do that with too many guys because you might get burned.
I'm sure the coaches will feel it out with those guys over the next few months. However, if other guys who are close to that level want in, it could change things as well.
I can see us getting a WR, RB, LB and DT to move us up to 19 commits. After that, the last 3-4 spots will be for best available. Guys like: Levenberry, T.Isaac/D.Smith, Fuller, Cravens, Vanderdoes/Poggi, Treadwell/Foster, Orndoff. If we have more attrition than expected, that might open the door for another OL like McGovern or Pocic.
Assuming we have 9/10 spots left.
I can see Michigan taking a RB, CB, DT, WR, and a LB ... and calling that a finished class, with 3-5 spots left for simply the top players. If we can get those spots, and with Isaac, Conley, Poggi, Treadwell, and Gedeon ... we look pretty good to do so, we can literally take 3 - 5 five stars, regardless of position. At this point, you name a top player, there is no need to ask the question; does this effect them? It doesn't. We'll take him, and however many that come with him .... between three and four, of course. This is simply a genius recruiting plan, and seemingly, it's workin to complete perfection.
Hoke-mania is running wild like it's 1987.
I think losing Standifer and losing out on Reeves might make the coaches a little more open to taking a 3rd CB in this class. I imagine Hargreaves and Fuller will still visit, and we'll go from there.
Chill. The kid is taking his time and thinking it through. It's only March.
This is probably what the MSU boards were saying about Kugler around this time last week.
I wonder... what is the earliest a recruiting class has ever filled?
Gareon Conley @xx_WellDone_3 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@Crosier2432 I already have other offers ... Obviously I want to go to Michigan do you know the definition of commitment
Kinda eliminates any remaining suspense.
Also for fans like @crosier2432, please don't tweet recruits...You make us look really bad when a kid says he's committing to Michigan and you immediately get on his case asking him if he's gonna flip at some point. Great welcome to the family...
So frustrating, I thought Michigan fans are better than this. Absolutely embarassing for our recruits.
that he is going to try and join Team 134. Looking good!
I wonder what this could mean? :)
In all seriousness this is very good. Fills our big CB slot that we lost last year when Anthony Standifer decommited.
Conley just tweeted "Obviously I want to go to Michigan"
Don't know if it's the footage or he's really that fast, but the kid can move!
Ok, this is starting to border on inhuman. This coaching staff must be keeping 5 hour energy in business at the pace they have been visiting these kids and getting them to commit. I think it's safe to assume, UM has the hardest working coaching staff in college football
It's time to cut the coffee for the day bud.
Doesn't Fuller go to Good Councel in Maryland.
....but maybe he's going to start commuting to NJ.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict he commits to Michigan.
Sounds promising. I like his film, he should be a consensus 4 star if he keeps progressing.
I googled Conley and it lead to here http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/football-recruiting/627669-13-oh-cb-gareon-conley.html They had nothing but good things to say about Conley. He also excels in Basketball and Track.
On a side note, A couple Buckeye faithful were pretty confident about flipping Dymonte. Don't see that happening, I must say.
Yeah, Thomas is included in pretty much every Bucknuts' class predictions. Most are 100% certain they will get Dymonte. Most of these predictions are based upon the though he will visit for every home game and celebrate with the team in the locker room afterward.
2011 what are they going to be celebrating? YAY WE COMPLETED FIVE PASSES TODAY GUYS!!
Hey, Dymonte, you wanna come with us to our bowl ga....oh wait...that's right...
"I have no idea to this day what those two Italian ladies were singing about. Truth is, I don't want to know. I'd like to think they were singing about something so beautiful, it can't be expressed in words, like a Michigan recruitng class in early March."
-Ellis Boyd "Red" Redding
Welcome to the fam Conley!
some of you people in this thread prove that no matter what a coach does, you're going to find a way to bitch about him. "Why don't we slow down with all the top recruits we're in on" are you for serious?
Frankly, I don't see why that isn't a legitimate question. It makes sense to become more selective the more full the class gets. I'm not saying Conley isn't a tremendous player, but the question itself is fair.
But it isn't fair. That Conley has a committable offer at this point shows exactly how the coaches feel about him. If they didn't think him worthy of playing for Michigan, then he wouldn't be committing tomorrow. He is, therefore...
I agree. I'm just saying that if you have few spots left to fill, it makes sense to be very selective
they're filling their quota at positions with very solid players and leaving space overall in the class for top players. Just because you have five 4* linemen doesn't make it smart to start limiting other positions.
Yes, but, as has been stated on here several times, the question also assumes that the recruiting service scouts are a better judge of character than the coaches. Hoke has a lot more riding on the player's he recruits.
I am also amused at the calls for Michigan to slow down, when at the same time there are cries for players to commit. It works two ways—they commit to Michigan, but Michigan also commits to them.
Of course Hoke is a better judge of character, but at the same time, some athletes are obviously better football players than others.
As was pointed out above, at this point last year PeeWee was a 3-star while others were "obviously better football players". So I would hazard a guess that the star ratings, especially at this point, as much an indication of a player's exposure as they are their talent or athleticism. As much as I want the "experts" to be excited about the recruiting class and give Michigan some love, I have to believe the coaches are choosing the players that are best for their system and possess the skills to succeed at Michigan. If they identify those kids, stars be damned, sign them up. If it is a matter of talent, I think Hoke and Co have already demonstrated their willingness to turn away recruits that rank lower in the eyes of the coaches (see the LBs who won't be visiting this weekend).
Yeah, but anybody watching Peewees film knew he was underrated. It was, well, obvious. And I don't know what "system" you are talking about, but any system needs the best athletes it can find.
If Conley is on board who's next? Issac?
Not a homer but this kid has some serious athleticism and I will be very surprised if he is not a consensus 4 star by national signing day. The fact that he is 6'2 helps also. A couple of years in the weight room and good coaching could make this kid into a special player. I like him. GO BLUE!!
I am a homer and you are 100% correct.
He looks like Curtis Granderson. That's good enough for me
I would be shocked if this hasn't been mentioned already. But according to Tremendous, Chris Hawkin is also making his decision this saturday.
#93 overall to scout http://thisismichiganfootball.blogspot.com/
This is more than 4 hours until decision time, I am susposed to notify them of an erection lasting longer than that.
What isn't blue chip about this kid? Our system is a little different from everyone else's, and look what Hoke/Mattison did with the less than perfect talent (I'm feeling charitable) we had on D last year.
Conley is tall, fast, locates well, seems to diagnose well...maybe he's not a 4.3 40 guy, but he's only 18(ish). I knocked .20 seconds off of my 40 in college, and I'm sure he'll work harder in the weight room than I did.
Don't get too caught up in the 5* thing. This kid has elite talent, and fits what we want to do, keeping the ball inside and in front, and making plays on the ball when it's in the air.
Getting him and Hawkins this weekend would wrap-up CB this year, I think.
He's a 6' 2" CB who is a 3/4* recruit who in his highlight video plays the deep pass, plays the run, reads a QBs eyes for a pick, blitzes, blocks kicks and returns kick-offs plus the coaches are high on him in spite of our limited scholarships available. I'll take him any day!
I'm sure there is still room for Cravens and/or Fuller if they want to come.
This takes one player off my wish list:
6’2” ¾* WR
Everything else is a bonus.
He is CB but your list has WR crossed off.
Ludicrous speed - GO!
FWIW, the guy who puts together the Bucknuts Top 50 just loves Conley. Says he is a better cover corner than Burrows. "His athleticism and ball skills are the best in Ohio, no question."
It's all over twitter that he's stated that he's committing to M today. EXCELLENT!!!