If they're looking for a DC, I'd bet Justin Wilcox. He's in limbo right now (though he's also in the running for the Boise job)
Congratulations to msu
And ND, too -- wish there was some way ND could have lost tonight, too.
Some of you are completly forgetting that msu had an easy schedule this year, their hardest game was uofm, once they went over that hump, it was easy...
will see msu next year with osu and uofm in the same division
They beat undefeated #2 Ohio State in the Big Ten championship. However "easy" the rest of their schedule was, they proved on the field that it did not define them.
Concur. Gratz Lil Bro. Any time a Michigan team beats an Ohio team it's a good thing, unless it directly costs UM in the standings. Glad you're in the spotlight and glad you brought Urbz back down to Earth. Not glad to see OSU run all over your D proving even moreso that my lovely avatar lacks the imagination, schemes and coaching capacity to succeed in the BiG.
I did not root, I simply watched. I also have no feelings other than wow MSU is what I want Michigan to be on defense.
Assuming our recruits pan out, I think they're heading that way. Our D is pretty good, but nowhere near the level that MSU has.
The level of MSU defense is once in a decade for the Big 10. UM can aspire to it but aside from the 97 team we have not had a defense like that. And no the MSU defense is not perfect nor was our 97 defense but the standard is set there at the college level, at least in the Midwest.
I look at OSU as more realistic - they get the same type of recruits we get and right now I think the 2 defenses sort of grade out quite equally. My worry is theirs is coached by a guy that can easily be improved upon (Fickell) whereas we have about the best coordinator we can expect. And the defense is not uber young - but the older guys were recruited by a guy who did not emphasize defense.
Right now the 2 staffs doing the most with least on defense are MSU and Iowa. Iowa lacks the playmakers MSU has other than at LBs. But both are fundamentally sound and the players improve and develop. MSU has done a better job of recruiting the fast twitch athlete. In comparison right now OSU and UM are getting high level recruits but have not put it together... for OSU I think its due to the coordinator and youth in LB and secondary, with UM I hope its not the coordinator and because the talent is in the very young players.
It would be very interesting in a theoretical world to switch out Iowa and MSU defensive coaching staffs for 2 years with OSU and UM's and see what they could do with the type of talent those 2 programs have access with. Or maybe MSU is at that next stage where 4 star recruits take them seriously. Whatever the case there needs to be improvement... MSU has built what Hoke talks about. Now we have to see if Hoke and Mattison can deliver in the next 24 months as it will be all their kids and no more excuses.
Dont forget Dantonio is a genius defense of coach so that has a lot to do with why they have been consistently good the past few years..
You've got a point, but the 2006 defense might want a word with you.
It was interesting to watch head coaches wearing headsets, holding play cards and making decisions. Am I missing something?
Mark Dantonio grimace, congratulations. This isn't over!
Just finished it up o the DVR. MSU plays good football and as a football fan I like watching good football. Congrats to Sparty. Hoke, Brandon, et al know what we need to do and we're doing it. Be patient. Our time will come.
The thing I keep clinging to is that MSU went 7-6 last year because of an endless string of close losses due to an inconsistent offense. That sounds...familiar. I hope we make a run like theirs next year, though good fucking luck to the boys having to travel to South Bend, East Lansing, and Columbus next fall.
We were consistently bad from October to the Friday before THE GAME
When will Dantonio get the call for a better position somewhere else in the country?
he isn't going ANYWHERE. Why would he?
I'm glad Sparty won, as strange as that feels to say. I had to laugh when I heard Gus mention "little brother". I also had to laugh at the "Burn the Couch" sign, and the Spartan fan with a sign that used the $ instead of an S, in OSU.
All kidding aside, congrats to Sparty. They really do have a great Defense. I have to give respect where respect is due. They beat us, and they beat OSU. At the end of the day, they are going to the Rose Bowl, and we're going to the Ax Body Spray Tax Slayer Bowl, or whatever it's called.
But we'll be back next year. Our head is bloody, but unbowed.
I hope MSU kills Stanford. And I hope Michigan kills MSU the next 10 years. These are not mutually exclusive statements.
Also everyone remember this: This is now the 7th or 8th time a team from Michigan has ruined osu's undefeated season. THAT is the reason they hate the entire state of Michigan.
Also if a sparty friend/coworker of yours tries to talk shit, just say to them ''Yeah congratulations, I was rooting for you to beat osu. Good luck in Pasadena.'' They'll never know what hit em and they'll lose a little bit of their bragging rights because it irritates them that Michigan would root for them because they would never do the same.
Some of the comments in this thread were just strange. Congratulations to MSU. Just think, without a few questionable PI calls vs ND, they might be undefeated. They are the best team in the B1G and I hope they represent our conference well by slamming Stanford. There are going to be some hits in that game. The only way our conference will gain back any respect is by winning in bowl games. I hope they win, and the same for OSU. This is not the same as "rooting" for them. I don't like either team, but their winning and losing doesn't affect my mental well being except against us.
As a minor note in this thread, if some of the comments seem a little out of place with regards to what the person above them said, it is because a certain user was shown the door for being way over the top with negativity and general ill will towards their fellow MGoBloggers.
When it comes to the game itself, like others, I simply watched this game with the fan in me mostly unplugged, but I will admit to having cracked a small smile when MSU scored for the second time in the 4th quarter.
So I get more upset with the fanbase than I do the team. That being said I'm thrilled for Dantonio ( he's a great guy and actually really funny in a way) and this team. They were fantastic this year and they got better every week.
Eh I really do think they are going away soon. Recruiting wise they aren't on that level ... Of course, they were a few years ago when we weren't targeting the same types of player.
Congrats to em.
Is a Sparty fan and maaannn did she let me have it, I wonder if she's still hungover from last night as I could hear the celebration going on in EL. Congrats Sparty.
Did people learn NOTHING from the whole State of the Site post the other day?
THIS DOES NOT CALL FOR NAME-CALLING DEBATE. KNOCK IT OFF.
As much as I dislike MSU, they and their coach deserve props. They just play football. The season long demise of UM and OSU's public pistol-whipping by MSU make me feel as if there is a fundamental difference between what used to be the Big 2 and Little Brother. The Big 2 seem to be PR machines that overhype everything they do but when it comes to on-field performance are leave one feeling .....empty and even cheated. Sparty, on the other hand, comes to play, does his business, and lets that speak for itself. UM used to be that way. We are great at talking the talk, but recently don't really walk the walk. Congrats to MSU - well earned.
They are who Michigan would be if Harbaugh came here either after 07 or 10. Perfect technique in the offensive line, blocking assignment adjustments during the snap count, hundreds of variations out of any one formation, no negative plays, brutal aggressive defense.
Michigan might get there still but.....
This rooting for MSU and congratulating MSU stuff is coming from a "let's wallow in self-pity and pile on our own punishment" place. Stop it and man up.
You are going to need that thick skin dealing with State fan here in Michigan for the next 11 months or so. The biggest reason why Ohio winning would have been just fine with me.
Congratulations to Michigan State University. Good luck at the Rose Bowl. Represent the Big Ten well.
See you in ten months, and we'll be ready.
If you think about it, that's actually quite funny.
in reference to MSU not being the same old Spartans anymore. As long as Dantonio is there and more specifically Narduzzi then they will be legitimate. Maybe now Michigan will play with a little more fire against MSU because they have proven not to be of lesser competition.
I do not like state. GO BLUE!!
Pretty obvious most of us were rooting for OSU or FYS based on where we live or how much shit you would have to shovel based on one team winning. Personally living here in Ann Arbor I was rooting for OSU since there are few of them here in Ann Arbor. I know I am not looking forward to seeing B1G championship shit all over every Meijer, gas station and CVS for the next 8 months. Not to mention the car flags, bumper stickers and license plate rings that will be all over the road for years to come...if they win the rose bowl it will be unbearable.
None of those things happened when Michigan won the Big Ten and Rose Bowl?
We are not entilted to those things, you know. We have to earn them.
MSU flat-out earned them. In fact, they have a legit gripe that they got screwed and should actually be playing in the NC. Talk about earning it.
Success isn't reserved just for us.
I didn't say anything about them not being entitled...I said I wasn't looking forward to it.
we criticize the Spartans for caring too much about what Michigan does yet it looks like half of the fanbase came unhinged last night. I swear it looks like the roles have been reversed.
This game happened and it sucked but this is not indicative of the future of Michigan's program. Why does it matter so much if the Spartans are good? Can't both programs sustain success? Oklahoma and Okie State have been doing a good job of it recently.
I give Dantonio credit for creating a solid football team in EL, and no doubt they are just that. Fundamentally sound and nearly mistake-free. That being said, I am sick to death of eating shit from the fanbase. I was rooting for OSU last night--one successful enemy is better than two.
It also kills me that MSU takes a 3-star recruit like Cook and turns him into a solid player, whereas UM takes a talented athlete 5-star recruit like DG and four years later he's still a mess as a QB.
Kid can play!
Kid can play!.. Looks like a damn bully with class LOL