Dont forget msu took a huge advantage in recruiting durin RR era, where we recruited different style of players at that time.
that's unfortunate, but at least the interest is there on both sides
Dont forget msu took a huge advantage in recruiting durin RR era, where we recruited different style of players at that time.
Who else heard Dantonio reference the incoming recruits providing more depth going forward and thought, well shit.
Fuck sparty and I am not going to try to congrat a fan base or a team who hate us with all their guts...sorry cant stand them, especially in this occassion where now they think they own college football.
Wake the fuck up. If I were Sparty, I wouldn't give a shit about Michigan. They have won eleven or more games in three of the last four seasons. When was the last time Michigan did that? They have surpassed us. It's painful to admit, but it's true. They were a couple of bullshit pass interference calls away from playing for the national championship.
We are the new little brother. Let's stop deluding ourselves.
I'm sure he watched the Rose Bowl. If that game can't motivate him to rethink everything he does, he's a fool. That game better light a fire under every coach and player that how they prepare for games isn't even remotely good enough.
i think it's more likely that he thinks that a great team like stanford couldn't beat sparty, so there's obviously not a coaching issue here. it will just reinforce the youth and inexperience meme.
Dave Brandon is in a tough spot. Can't fire Hoke because he's bringing in the recruits, but in the same time, he's not getting the results out of them, that's on the coaches. Some of the 4 stars should be ready to go after a year of red shirting and they aren't.
A year of redshirting and they should be ready to go?
How many RS freshmen were playing in the Rose Bowl today? Stanford only has four on their whole depth chart, and two of the four are the backup punter and backup place kicker. Only one even saw the field today.
If somebody plays their way in during camp, that's great, but functioning programs do not depend on contributions from their redshirt freshmen.
We're currently number 20 in team rankings in Rivals. He's never had the best recruiting class in the Big Ten according to the Rivals rankings. He's a good recruiter, but he's not so good that he's unreplaceable. He's never beaten OSU in recruiting (even when they had a disaster year and we went to the Sugar Bowl) and he's beaten ND once.
David Brandon doesn't give a shit. Did you read his blog post?
Brady Hoke thinks we're fickle for daring to expect more than seven wins out of a program that acts like it's God's gift to football.
If anyone is screwed, it's us fans.
Honestly? If you put this team over the Russ Wilson-Wisc/Cousins-MSU teams that one year (both of those teams were really good), this is probably the best B1G team in a long while.
The way this program develops its players should alarm the absolute shit out of Hoke & DB, but I'm not even sure Hoke gives a damn. The fact that Cook is this competent from where he was earlier this year alone should be enough to send Borges the fuck out of AA.
"When I saw their offensive linemen's stance, I knew the way to make a play was to go over the top," said Elsworth, selected the game's defensive MVP.
I wonder if our coaches could even guess what he's talking about, let alone whether they're teaching it to our players.
Well, he was a SR playing behind an All American, but duly noted.
Also, a blind man could have guessed what that play was going to be. Stanford lined up in the same formation, with the same playcall, both before and after the TO. So yeah, I'd hope someone could have picked up that play.
They lined up in the same formation with the same playcall both before and AFTER the timeout? No way! I'm so glad our coaching staff would never, ever do anything that idiotic and self-defeating in a crucial end-of-the-game situation.
Congrats on the season.
Despite the impact it likely has on recruiting, I have no problem with B1G teams winning (when they're not playing UM). Michigan needs to face good opponents, and improve. Hopefully, other B1G teams improve, too.
The bandwagon MSU fans popping up everywhere in Michigan is a joke. Even worse then the bandwagon ND fans.
I would bet my house one of these threads would show up if MSU won the national championship with everyone congratulating them on the game like they don't give a damn about our rivalry with them.
If you mean people can be human beings and recognize a good performance, then yes by all means bet your house. Getting pissy at another team simply because you are their rival gets old pretty quick too. Noboyd here "likes" seeing MSU win, but just ignoring them and being all "hur hur most wins ever. Leaders and the Best!" is just as bad and any trolling MSU or OSU fans are guilty of.
I had a number of MSU fans give props to UM last year for their NCAA run. And they HATE UM.
of the reason I hate them so much. They're a rival team of a rival school with a staff and fanbase I find to be what I consider total douche nozzles, yet every time they win a game of any relative magnitude, everyone who pays any attention to college football expects me to sit and wax poetic about how fucking awesome they are. I don't care what they win, I still won't like them, so don't ask me to fellate them in a way they never have and never would for us, were the tables turned. Sour grapes, shmower shmapes.
I'm not congratulating them as this would not even come close to happening if the situation was reversed.
The defense was impressive and I do hope this performance inspires Brandon to do a compare and contrast and demand some sort of change. This season has been frustrating on many levels but I think the worst has been seeing these douchebags have their best season ever.
Brandon should compare and contrast Dantonio at year 7 of his program, or at year 3. Because as noted earlier, at that point Dantonio was coming off a losing season and had a worse record than Hoke after 3 years.
I think I should just root for my school, CMU. No expectations, no hype. If they pull off an upset then it's the greatest thing ever. 2013 was worst season I've witnessed as a fan of UM. even more so than 2008. I knew MSU was going to be a force since Kirk Cousins' junior year and it's ridiculous seeing the two programs go opposite directions.
Shut up about recruits and the RR hangover. That crap has played itself out enough to drive a lifelong Michigan fan to say fuck you blue. This program is getting exactly what it is capable of right now. I am speaking of both MSU and Michigan. Unless Hoke develops the last two classes into respectable teams next year and the following, Michigan will be the little brother for the next ten to fifteen years. I am not a believer in Hoke or the old crotchety coordinators he has. This is going to be bad, real bad, very soon.
Congrats on joining the blog and immediately going into a rant.
Nobody just joined the blog today, for the first time, and put "manball" in his username.
And it's a familiar rant.
Um, the "Joined" date was 01/01/2014
And yes, I recognize this is not a novel rant style.
Seems like ever since I started lurking round these parts in about 2006 things started unravelling. I'm starting to think its me. Sorry guys. Wish I could quit but mgoblog is a helluva drug.
Even if you choose to congratulate them, do we really need a thread on them. I don't because most of their fans are extreme douchenozzles but I respect how other fans act towards teams. If you think it is necessary to have a 500 comment thread every time MSU does something good then why haven't we ever done the same for Meyer and his 24-0 start. This has to do with our indifference towards MSU around here.
This x 100. How can everyone choose to be so respectful to such a disrespectful fanbase? They've had a few good years sure. First time at rose bowl since 88. Meanwhile they try to remind us at every point that we haven't won a Natty Championship since 97. Seems rather ironic to me. Sure they've had a heck of a run and this year is no exception. But everytime i look at any MSU board, it's constant shit talking about Desmond Howard, the UM fanbase, and spiteful comments towards anyone and everyone that disagrees with them. That's why i find it hard to take my hat off to them. You try to give them credit and they just resort to childish banter.
These threads constantly get created as if people are trying to be friends with the fanbase of MSU. Is it really necessary to kiss spartan ass all the time? Do we need to publically acknowledge every time they do something positive? When the tables turn eventually, just as every team's success eventually does, they will not give you the same level of respect. So why bother? Sites like RCMB just use this material to feed their own ego, especially from mgoblog. They eat this shit up and use it to talk trash about how pathetic they think our fanbase is. And quite honestly, these type of threads are pathetic.
Exactly. As I said in an earlier post, if anyone ever read on RCMB what they think of Michigan fans, they wouldn't ever congratulate Staee on anything. They are the worst fan base I've ever seen.
Represent the entire fan base and are always the most respectful and well thought out group.
Why do you think Brian had to bring back voting on this very site?
The one thing I know is that their coaching staff out performs our staff. So their walk on LB played great! Odds are is they beat us again in EL. I just hope it is not another blow out win for them!
They deserve it! Their playing at a high level and if u want to put them back in their place, go out and beat themm! Dont sit thier and pray thier program falls apart
Jesus Christ, man. You are making your parents very sad.
The conference needed this win, but it sucks to see any rival have success when our program seems to be lacking direction, passion, and progress. I've been a fan of Brady Hoke from the moment he did his first press conference, but if this program has another season like this, then Dave Brandon needs cut him loose and hire someone who has legitimately shown the ability to build a program through recruitng AND player development. Hell if it came down to it, I would offer Jim Tressel the job.
Congrats to them. Hell of a team.
7 Stages of Grief...
1. SHOCK & DENIAL
2. PAIN & GUILT
3. ANGER & BARGAINING
5. THE UPWARD TURN
6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH
7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE
Why congratulate our rival? Their win did not help um at all. If it helps our conference, then it is our rival doing it not us. The trash they talk all year and about all sports does not deserve us giving them praise. They are trash and that should always be remembered. If you forget, go on Facebook or Twitter or listen to talk radio and you will be reminded quickly how they feel about um. Oh that's right, I'm sure msu was really cheering for mich basketball last year in national championship game, right?
We need to slap the slippery fish right in the gill hole! Happy time feed bag, frog face. Cement landing!
This. I'll be nicer towards them when their fanbase acts better towards us. Until then, they're dead to me.
Just wait until ThadMottasAGoblin comes on and tells us all how big of pussies we all are for acknowledging that MSU played well.
Just wait until I'm called a douchebag for not saying that Dantonio is the best thing since sliced bread, but with Ohio State or Notre Dame none of these threads ever show up. Kind of funny really when these holier than thou people ignore big Buckeye wins but are on everyone when they're not kissing MSU's ass.
Show me where anyone here said that Dantonio is the "greatest thing since sliced bread"? No one here is "kissing MSU's ass" as you so intelligently put it.
They played well and deserved to win. A good sport aknowledges that and moves on.
This entire thread one big Spartan ass-kissing thread. This is pathetic.
Yea it is embarassing. You'll probably see one of these threads the next time they beat us the next time with a bunch of posters going around to everyone who will not congratulate MSU for various reasons and call them dbags like they do to me and various other posters.
The difference is that we have historically considered Michigan State to be inferior. That's not the case with Ohio State. Ohio State is expected to win B1G championships and contend for national championships. Michigan State is not. Also, as I mentioned in my comment below, Miichigan State's success just accentuates how badly Michigan has underperformed lately. MSU has won 11 or more games in three of the last four seasons. When was the last time Michigan did that?
If Sparty had not beaten Urb and taken OSU out of national title contention, would we still be falling all over ourselves for the Rose Bowl today? I doubt it. It is like this is their reward for defeating Ohio State. If OSU was in the NC game, we wouldn't be so happy for Sparty, I am guessing. Would we congratulate OSU for a similar feat?