Andy Rooney is always awesome.
this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
Andy Rooney is always awesome.
for subject-verb agreement questions.
which you've employed in this thread, I'm wondering about your statement "I would wager every penny I will ever earn on it."
In this age of direct deposit, you won't be earning many pennies, will you?
Granted, if we are indeed talking in precise terms. But I do have a jar with about 20 lbs. of pennies in it at home I would wager.
that may not be many pennies.
(Light-hearted jest; my fiance was a communications major).
Oh, how true.
Also... I think I got my first neg stalker. Posts of mine that have nothing to do with the argument at all in this thread are getting negged. Cool!
I will say this. I was unaware I could make so many enemies by making a point about a news source using improper grammar and then defending my point when questioned. I guess it just goes to show:
I don't think it's so much that you're defending your point, but that you're defending it so fiercely. Good-natured banter might have been more well-received.
FWIW, I'm inclined to agree with your point on this one. I don't think my perspective on grammar holds much weight, though, since I never went to college.
I suppose that's probably true. Well, I'm not intolerant to negs. The very first reply that argued my point came with a neg. I figure if somebody wants to say they thing I might be wrong, then fine. If they want to play hard, I'll play hard.
It's not like I called anyone names or implied anyone was stupid.
Yeah, Blazefire. We are not enemies, I can promise you that. I thought the argument was clarification.
P.S. Negstalkers are crazy, man. They see a bunch and just add on to the pile and it snowballs.
I agree with you there. I never neg anybody unless I feel their statement was directly problematic.
I neg trolls; not stated opinions, regardless of whether I agree or disagree.
From what I've seen, mentioning MGoPoints is enough to attract Negstalkers.
To all grammar lovers,
I’m on a mission to re-build my grammatical foundation/abilities this Christmas break. Does anyone have a few good books, videos, articles or web sites I could use to re-learn English grammar from the ground up?
Depends on what you want to learn, but the previously mentioned Little Brown Handbook (Any college bookstore. Buy used. EXPENSIVE!) is a great resource for journalism grammar. AP, MLA, Chicago and more.
Either way, I think the inclusion of "people" does make it a little bit clumsy. It would read better if it said "one person in four is Muslim" or "one in four is Muslim."
In four people, nearly 1 is muslim.
blazefire's counter: it doesn't say it that way
counter to the counter: it doesn't matter that it doesn't say it that way
counter to the counter to the counter: it does matter that it doesnt say it that way
counter to the counter to the counter to the counter: it does matter that it doesnt matter that it doesnt say it that way
counter (to the counter)^(2n): no
counter (to the counter)^(2n+1): yes
ZING!! Well done BeantownBLue! Haven't seen such a clear internet ass-whuppin like that in a while.
Blaze should heed your the comment about simply admitting when you are wrong.
There's nothing wrong with that line. It's entirely correct. Yes, it's true that numbers below ten (or 100, according to some) should generally be spelled out, but this is a news headline. Headlines have limited space and their writers make allowances accordingly.
I might not be the world's best editor, but I get paid to decide stuff like this so I felt compelled to chime in:
I believe "is" is the correct verb there, for the same reasons cited above. "Person" is implied, and therefore "1 person" is the subject of the sentence.
Also, it is AP style that numerals and single quotes are used in all headlines for the purpose of saving space. Here's the excerpt under "Headlines" in AP Stylebook:
... use numerals for all numbers and single quotes for quotations.
Most websites also have a headline character limit, which is almost certainly the reason that the headline wasn't written as "Nearly 1 person in 4 is Muslim" or "Nearly 25% of the world's population is Muslim" or something like that.
The character limit doesn't prohibit the people/person alteration; they're the same length:
Nearly 1 in 4 people is Muslim
Nearly 1 person in 4 is Muslim
Good point, I didn't count carefully. I suppose that would be slightly clearer, but the original point still stands: the "person" part is implied and therefore "is" is the correct verb.