I'm just going to believe that somewhere in that text it says that Dorial Green-Beckham is a silent commit.
IIRC Diamond is Feb 3, Reeves and Grant could possibly decide today
Kozan: definitely today (between UM & Iowa)
Grant: probably today (probably UM)
Muller: probably today (50/50 UM & Rutgers)
Reeves: maybe today, but it will be quiet (just telling the coaches), so we might not hear immediately (50/50 UM & OSU)
Henry: probably not today, visit and announcement TBD
Diamond: not today, he announces on the 3rd
He's 52/48. Pay attention.
Didn't Henry visit yesterday?
For whatever reason, I get the feeling that we are not/were never really in the running for Kozan. Is Iowa pretty much the consensus prediction at this point?
How can we not be in the running when we are in his final two schools?
Does anyone know when Muller is going to decide?
should be announcing today.
So the offer to Chris Muller makes me think that we are out of the race for Kozan and/or Diamond, or that the coaches do not want to wait until Feb 3 to finalize their OL class.
We were recruiting 3 prior to his decision.
We offered him the day Garnett decided (presumably after he told the coaches his decision), so he was a replacement for Garnett. I think the coaches just want 3 options for 2 slots, but the Muller offer doesn't mean much wrt the other 2, imo.
Unless we are recruiting a position specialist for Center, I am not sure why we will want 3 more offensive linemen.
I definitely don't know more than the coaches.. just trying to rationalize.
All I'm saying is the new offer was a result of Garnett commiting elsewhere, not a bad feeling about Kozan or Diamond. I think we want 2 linemen, not 3, so if 2 were to commit, we would tell the last one that there was no space left.
Kozan is the only one that can play center. Our OT numbers are very low and Muller and Diamond are both OTs. If all three decide to commit we will take all of them.
our OL recruiting right now. With only 4 guys committed and this being a position of great need, I hope the coaches are really pouring it on in the final stretch. I know AJ Williams could possibly switch over but all the indications are right now he's still a TE. Let's hope for a strong finish.
FWIW I have heard that Williams is more playing ready at tackle than Diamond is. And that Diamond absolutely has to redshirt and needs a lot of work at tackle.
The staff has repeatedly told AJ Williams he's a tight end. AJ Williams has repeatedly said (and tweeted) he's a tight end.
Sure, anything could happen, but no reason to project AJW as an OL when all relevant parties say he's playing TE.
AJ is a tight end. That's it.
Isn't he only (ha) like 240 lbs? He would have to put on serious weight to be able to play Tackle.
People can say he is a TE all they want but I will bet anyone $1 he ends up at tackle at some point
Kozan could project as a center.
And the coaches always wanted a total of 3 more, with the net loss of Stacey.
I'm saw that henry is looking at announcing on tuesday. No link just what is being talked about around the blogosphere.
We need some positive news. It feels as if we have been spinning our wheels or even going inreverse. We need a solid yes from a couple of these guys.
2-3 awesome recruits commiting to M would be the only thing that can cheer me up after the B'ball debacle.
I love the hoops team, but I can't get too down about this. We lost to a top 5 team on the road. We just needed a split of the Purdue/Ohio road trips this week and we got it.
It still sucks to lose to Ohio..
in order to do what? We need every win possible in order to have a chance to win the BIG Ten.
Realistically, we're not going to win the Big Ten this year. We have a six-man rotation (four of which are underclassmen), we have one actual inside threat, and we have one ballhandler (who is a true freshman), who basically is not allowed to ever rest because we can't function without him. Beilein has been doing some masterful coaching to get us even possibly envisioning league contention.
but I am supposed to believe that we are a sweet 16 team. Not by you, but by others in the postgame thred.
That's not necessarily contradictory. It's a lot easier to go 2-0 than 14-4 or whatever. Besides, whoever wins the Big Ten will probably be a Final Four contender, not just Sweet 16.
a pair of the rose colored glasses that everyone is wearing around here. I guess I just have not seen sweet 16 talent on the floor in the past several games. I hope I am wrong and all of you are right.
Well, I think we can make the Sweet 16. It will depend on the matchup.
We needed a split to 1) remain in contention (the Big Ten champ is not going to finish 16-2) and 2) maintain position for a solid NCAA tournament seed. It's extremely hard to win on the road in this league. The conference champ will probably be a team that goes unbeaten at home and like 4-5 or 5-4 on the road. If we beat Ohio when they come to Ann Arbor, which is possible, it makes today's game a wash. Regardless, #2 is my bigger concern. I want to get to the Sweet 16 this year.
This team starts hitting threes consistently - then I think they can be not just a sweet sixteen team but possibly more. There is no reason that their three point percentage should be so much lower this year then last year unless Darius Morris was really giving the three point shooters that much space.
The other possiblity is when you have the two gaurd offense of Stu and Trey out there - then running pick and rolls with hardaway puts too really good three point shooters on the wings. I loved the high pick and roll that opened a spot up three for Trey Burke in the corner.
They hit their threes - this team will become lethal. And they are getting open threes - they just aren't hitting them
I think your Darius Morris comment is truer than you think. He was a critical set up man for us, feeding wide open Novaks and Douglasses in the corners after driving. Watching today's game made it so painfully noticeable how we have lost that ability to hit wide open guys off the penetration (not completely but just not as effectively as last year). Watching a smaller Burke blowing past his man and into the lane but turning it over or putting up a mediocre shot when we have open guys (who he usually is trying to get the ball to when he turns it over) highlghts this fact. Craft is a superior defender but it has been a trend I have noticed lately; Burke's smaller size and inexperience hurt his ability to distribute to our three point shooters. Give Burke another year of strengthening and more understanding of defense and he will definitely improve greatly on this (not that he isn't good already).
Next year I doubt very much that we will be losing to Ohio.
4*, #9 OT, #100 overall to Rivals
4*, #17 OT, #147 overall to 247
4*, #24 OT to ESPN
3*: #45 OT to Scout (says he has tremendous upside, size, feet, but not enough tenacity)
Offers from Florida, ND, Wiscy, PSU, Sparty, South Carolina, among others
That's great and all but what about Muller?
News is that Reeves will probably not announce tonight, per 24/7.
Any report regarding Reeves is speculation.
Have you spoken with Reeves recently?
I texted with Armani for a short time today and just told him to contact me after he's made his decision. I'm almost certain that his people have been completely tight lipped since he told me he was 50/50. I really wouldn't read too much into any reports and I feel like people are just guessing right now when it comes to him, unless somebody has a real in with his godfather, who is in complete control of his recruitment right now.
If so, where came the 50/50?
Before Meyer and Mattison visited, I talked with Armani who said he was 50/50. He told me to contact him after Mattison visited, which I did. When we talked, he said his godfather told him he was to do no more interviews until after he's committed. My assumption is that he has held to that commitment based on me trusting his word. Today I just texted him to have him let me know after he's decided.
This kid is going to Ohio State. He picked Penn State to play with Camren Williams and for his god father.
And honestly - like I stated in a previous thread - when I saw their high school game this was one big family. There is no way they are going to separate schools.
Family is a huge huge draw - surrogate or not.
We will probably land Diamond, Grant and maybe Muller. I would forget about Reeves.
I would love to know what happened with Standifer. He is the Devin Lucien of this class - I just can't figure out what happened....
TheDenarding...to answer your question... I can figure out the Lucien thing. To me its obvious.. they want to get a foot into the school early in 2010, so they can get a start on that elite player Simmons...so they offer Lucien, but offer him at a position they know he wont play...cb.... its a smart move, for it gives the future players early exposure to Michigan.
My assumption is that checking in with a guy once a week when he's about to make his decision is normal in the industry. I've probably checked in less than most, and haven't bothered him to find out when he's deciding, because he has told me he's not doing interviews until he decides.
FWIW, he has said that he's had almost 100 people contact him within the last two days trying to figure out when he's deciding. I believe me asking him to contact me after he's decided is the least of his worries.
Aquaman, have you always been a semi-recruiting guru, or did you just decide to pick up the torch after TomVH went to the pros?
I've only been doing this for about a month and a half or so. Our site was never originally intended for recruiting purposes...it was only kind a niche that we fell into. Now that we're in there, we're trying our best.
It's an interesting thing to cover; there are some enjoyable parts to it, but there are some huge minuses in doing this constantly too.
Personally, I think it's going to be difficult to win the Reeves battle. When your best friend and godfather are pushing you as hard as they can in one direction, it's tough to go the other.
To avoid a let down, everyone should just believe Reeves=OSU until we hear otherwise.
From a family perspective it will makes sense for him to pick OSU. As much as his mother may have liked Hoke, it'll be much easier for her to hitch rides with "the godfather" to see her son play in Columbus. This may be a case where he picks where his heart leads him, rather than what makes sense. I haven't given up hope, just being realistic.
Yes, the kid who's not discussing his recruitment until after he decides is just dying for attention.
Right. The last-second decision has everything to do with Reeves wanting attention and nothing whatsoever to do with the scandal/coaching overhaul at the school he was committed to up until not long ago.
Reeves went through his process and chose a school and as a result of circumstances outside of his control was forced to rethink that process and start anew, with a much smaller window to do so. Can't blame him for taking all the time he has (not to mention that it really is no business of a fan when he makes his decision)...
armani is not announcing tonight per bucknuts, but will soon.
Since his friend and godfather want him to pick ohio and he still hasn't made a decision I sense he wants Mich and has so far resisted their pressure.Perhaps it's a good sign he apparently isn't deciding today.
I agree. It seems like it's a competition between where he wants to go and where his friend and godfather want him to go, Otherwise, why wouldn't he have already gone to play with his best friend.
"Shifted focus," I would disagree. Assuming the coaching staff sees the same things we do, we really need a center. We can't afford another year without a center, otherwise we'll be starting Khoury (oh god Sugar Bowl flashbacks) and air until a true freshman takes over with no backup. I don't know the depth chart completely (or even what year Khoury is), so I'm not 100% on who our backup is, but losing Molk is arguably the worst to our team by far.
In fact, it doesn't even seem arguable, it seems absolutely certain. When Molk goes out, we suffer, and we've seen the evidence.
This actually frightens me. It's been evident the past 3 years, and that's not just on Khoury.
Indeed. I don't blame Khoury, and maybe he'll improve drastically once he's getting reps with the ones and game experience (it might just be jitters from never seeing the field behind a Rimington winner). However, unless we plan to force guys to the interior, we need to start picking up inside guys who fit there naturally.
Kozan, please go Blue! We need you more than you know and you could take over very quickly. Best decision you could make.
BECUASE Iowa is a drive home to Colorado.. Michigan isnt.
But what is SHOCKING... is that Kozan or whoever wouldnt want to JUMP at the possiblity of starting as Denard's center, on his HEISMAN RUN his senior year.
We can't afford another year without a center, otherwise we'll be starting Khoury (oh god Sugar Bowl flashbacks)
Khoury played one series - three plays - against Va Tech. The only thing you could reasonably conclude from those three plays is that his shotgun snaps needed work, which is not unusual for a replacement center. (David Moosman, a pretty decent interior lineman overall, had massive trouble with shotgun snaps in his first couple starts at center in 2009 before getting it down.) You can't take anything from those three snaps and extrapolate it to 2012.
I know he didn't play much in the Sugar Bowl, but it was during the key opening drive where I was extremely nervous that the rest of the game would be terrible. Then there was the extreme uncertainty whether he would have to come back in or not, and focusing on Molk knowing there might not be a reliable backup. Not so much flashing back to actual plays, but more the feelings I had and dreading a repeat of the first drive.
I know it's nothing on Khoury, and mostly the snap problems as you said, but it still seemed indicative that we had no one prepared to assume the role should Molk go out.
I understand all that. After that first series, I desperately wanted Molk to return, too. But that doesn't mean that Khoury lacks the ability to ever play the position. QBs just tend to be very particular about the way they get the ball snapped to them in the shotgun and when you change centers, there can be an adjustment.
he was running on adrenaline and nerves, and worried about getting his block up. Common problem. One more series after settling on the sideline and a few snaps under center and we would have been evaluating his blocking not his snaps.
My son plays center and we felt really bad for Rocko.
Why is everyone sleepin on Jack Miller? Heard nothing but positive things about him. Im sure he will in the mix for a starting job next season.
I've been itching for a Hello: post for a while. While I personally am expecting none of these guys to commit (I expected Garnett and that was quite the disappointment), it would be tremendous to grab a couple of these players. I would love to see us get Kozan and Diamond. Those two would round out what is an incredible OL haul. Reeves and Grant would be adding some salt to Ohio's wound. Let's hope we get these commits!
If I am a top OL, I look at school with 2 or 3 commits already and think "too crowded / worried about playing time". Short of free tats and Chargers, it seems it is real herd to bring in 4 major OL recruits in 1 class.
I had a dream last night that I saw a Hello: Armani Reeves post. Then I went to check the recruiting rankings and we were outside of the top 5 behind Syracuse.
It was a weird dream.
Is if we were offer Reeves a bball scholarship...
I think you need to quit eating chili before you go to bed.
Why cant they just decide now? I want decisions!
This is a great class so far compared to our recent history. Coaches did a great job filling our needs. Hope we can land so big names on signing day and the repeat the success next year
However it ends, the coaches have brought in some talent and character.
Who is going to be keeping us updated tonight? I'm still trying to get my site up and running before I start to really make inroads but I'd like to hear tonight, or will there be live updates?
If you best friend, who is more or less your sibling, is going to one school and you're 50/50 about whether or not you want to go there...
That says to me, he'd prefer to go to U of M, but can't decide if he wants to leave Carmen.
I think a similar thing was going on with Garnett, who wanted to go to Stanford, but his new BFF was going to the other school (and I don't the relationship Garnett has with Mags is the same as Armani's with Carmen). In the end, Garnett went with where he wanted to go. Hopefully Armani will do the same.
Just my 2 cents.
I think the toughest hurdle is Brent Williams, can't see a split situation. Going to be hard to get Armani blue, I think...
This is similar to Brionte Dunn's recruitment. I think he's very torn about where to go. On one hand, I think he really likes the idea of playing under Mattison and Hoke, but I have to believe that his friend is pushing him to go to Ohio and play under coach Meyer.
In many ways I do not admire these kids. This is a very difficult decision to make and I'd be taking my time and be just as confused as many of them are. Hopefully he goes blue in the end!
Did you mean ot type 'envy' instead of 'admire'?
Did you mean to type 'to' instead of 'ot'?
plays a very significant role in picking where he goes.
Well said Antoine, well said.
Devin Fuller to Arizona!
Do you have anything concrete? Link?
If true, what a get for Rich Rodriguez. This guy is the real deal. They say his passing is further along than Denard's at the same stage.
He was UCLA bound?
He just committed to UCLA
Armani Reeves just tweeted #michigan #buckeye. Singular BUCKEYE? And just saying Michigan? I'm guessing UM.
Games, don't read into an 18 year olds tweets...
It's Chill Chet working on his 2nd or 3rd user name. Pay him no mind.
Seems like a well known commodity around here.
Actually, Devin Fuller committed to UCLA and the 247 crew ruined his announcement by releasing it over an hour before his press conference.
It may have been an accident, but the race to release it first became more important than the race to get it right, much like what Brian talked about with the Paterno story.
James Ross, MSU reporter ran the story before he gave him the OK.
I feel like it happens at some point every year. It's an unfortuante reality stemming from the pressure to break stories.
EDIT: remember when it happened to Kaleb Ringer?
Why must you prevent me from doing my homework??
I predict that Michigan doesn't get diamond, Kozan, Grant, or Reeves. Ohio will finish with a better class than Michigan. If this happens it will be a large nut to swallow. ;)
This may actually come to pass. At some stage when recruits keep finding excuses to not commit it's best to read between the lines and not get our hopes up.
I predict that Michigan doesn't get diamond, Kozan, Grant, or Reeves. Ohio will finish with a better class than Michigan. If this happens it will be a large nut to swallow. ;)
not as tough as the beatdown osu will receive from UM in the horseshoe this coming Nov.
That would suck to have a nut as your mascot! They really string nuts and wear them with pride. Gay pride... So stupid! The band wears police academy uniforms also. Proctor!
If you waited this long to make a commitment, why is today better than Wednesday? I think we have to buckle-up and be ready for a big Wednesday.
I would guess it probably has to do with being with your family, talking things over and deciding. You might not have the time to announce on Wednesday and get everyone you want to be with you there for it. The weekend is a time when you're around the people who will care most about your decision.
That's a nice thought.
I thought Kozan was announcing tonight at 8pm (i.e. 8 minutes ago). Any update??
Eastern or mountain time
Sounds like Tuley-Tillman is visiting next weekend...
Since we're on that note...He also got his coveted offer from Alabama, so the stiff competition is in. And since we're on THAT note...Shaq Wiggens got his coveted offer from UGA, so similar story.
I am guessing if he says 8, he means his, not yours.
Iowa can have him. Doesn't sound like a Michigan Man to me...
Talk about commitment blue balls. I've been buckled up since Friday with all these reports and not one announcement yet?
Me too. Everybody seemed pretty confident that we would see two or three commitments by the end of the weekend, but it is coming to an end pretty quick without any fireworks at all.
In protracted "buckle up" situations, it's always best to keep supplies of unguents to prevent chafing.
Time for a committement
The OP just randomly asserts that today is Commitment Sunday despite no evidence to support this. And it's already 9 PM. Something tells me not many recruits will be announcing Sunday night at 11PM.
Still nothing to see here? I may need to unbuckle...
"Well its time to tell everyone"
According to his twitter Armani is going to Ohio. Damn
happen to the commits none so far. The coaches should have had more options. We were only targeting 5 players done the wire,we have missed out on two now. What happened?!?!?!
I don't know why, but going back to the Carr years, it seems like Michigan has a tendency to miss out on these late-deciders. We seem to get the big names earlier on.
Uhhhhh..today stinks for UM
I thought he was announcing today as well...any word about him?
Nothing positive came out of the day
Lost to Ohio
Reeves to Ohio
Kozan to Iowa
News that Diamond is Wisconsin-bound
Madaris to State (Not that i care)
Any news on what's happening with Sam Grant?