"On the 24th day of Christmas,
Cheaty McSweatervest sent to me,
31 text messages saying OMFG What I gonna do?"
Columbus Dispatch: Tressel Loves to Talk n Txt
"On the 24th day of Christmas,
Cheating programs are now using cloned phones and having secret e-mail accounts. Can't wait to see the spin from the fan base on this.
Somebody must have hacked his account.
Is that called the "Weiner Defense"?
the "Cock Block".
It was his little brother / evil twin
I'm gonna write an biography if Jim Tressel called "Lies and Deceit; How Cheaty McSweatervest destroyed a whole program."
It'll be a best seller.
I thought his name was Sweatervest McCheatypants.
Will Scroaty McBoogerballs make an appearance in this book?
The offseason is long and boring and I was getting tired of reading so many posts about former players discussing our former coach, wondering how Denard will do in the new offense and debating the merits of a 4-3 vs a 3-4 or a 3-3-5. Thanks for giving us something so awesome to talk about all offseason.
Cheaty is hep to modern technology. That is tremendous (as it relates to their downfall and all).
I expect a new MS Paint masterpiece soon.
New OSU helmet stickers.
... the texting cell phone.
I am a cheating bastard. I know now that what I have done is wrong. I am admitting now to the world that I have deprived a great fanbase of their right to enjoy kicking the sh*t out of their greatest rival for a decade. As reparation for my sins, I am providing everything needed to destroy the program, the players, the image of the institution, and the validity of the victories my ineligible players accomplished during my tenure.
Don't ever change. We love you just the way that you are.
By the way, that whole thing about telling the bunch of students who came to your house to support your wholesale lack of morals that OSU was going to kick Michigan's ass in November - way to stay classy.
P.S.: Have you seen the stories in the press about USC losing their BCS NC? Since you now have some time on your hands, you might want to peruse some of those stories. I am sure that you will find them interesting.
on it. This one is going to prove a gold mine, Smith AND Tressel's venal and mercenary selves revealed in all their glory. Over/under on whether Smith goes down too if the content of these calls gets out? I'd take "ADship over" at almost any odds.
He gets to go in front of the NCAA to take his medicine then he gets the axe. He was either in on it as we're seeing or he was too incompetent for the job in the first place, win/win for us. The story now is do they clean the whole staff or are they going to still going to allow Fickell to keep the job? How much of the Tressel era is vacated? Over/under on ban years and schollies.
a trickle. Death by a thousand cuts, THEN a penalty of death.
Fire Smith now, and fire Gee later. If you really love the game then you're a Buckeye hater.
The Dispatch find pictures of Tressel in a "happy" state, shirtless, sent to tOSU cheerleaders, I'm going to be delirious.
Is that he isn't wearing any pants
get ready for the showers!
is a MS paint of the JT "leaked" picture he took of his junk, that he emailed to Pam Ward. I would image his pee-pee would have a sweater vest, glasses and headset on.....that would be epic.
you just put yourself on record as imagining about Jim Tressel's genitalia. And thinking it was epic.
Uh..... Does your caseworker know about this?
There is now vomit all over my computer.
himself JT in the infamous emails, but I think he should be sued for using this. Justin Timberlake should be offended and should sue for libel and defamation of character. Take whatever money that lying skeez has left.
may argue further...
"David Marburger, a Cleveland lawyer who specializes in public-access law, said that an Ohio Supreme Court decision allows public institutions to separate personal communication from public record. But, he said, it's questionable for government officials to allow employees to determine which information will be kept from the public.
"In a situation where the government asks the employee which communications are personal, the government shouldn't just accept the employee's word," Marburger said."
but...but...Jim Tressel is always so forthcoming and honest. I'm sure we can take him at his word, right? Right?
Tressel was a dirtbag. The NCAA should ban ohio from bowl games for 10 years and reduce scholarships by 10 per year.
Per the Dispatch: "Ohio State blacked out about 13 percent of the 22,858 calls or text messages Tressel made during the one-year period." That is 62.6 calls/texts per day ... including Sundays (oh yeah ... I forgot about those psalms he was texting) ... my bad, never mind. Go Blue !
How many of those were illegal texts/calls to prospective student athletes (PSAs)? Isn't that what brought Kelvin Sampson and IU down?
Through all of the Ed Martin Fiasco, it was never really proven that Martin had regular contact with Steve Fisher. Though his connection to Perry Watson was well-documented, there was never a "smoking gun" connecting Martin to Fisher. The texts from Tressel to Sarniak are the "smoking gun." The texts are the equivalent to what it would have been if telephone records indicated that Fisher did, indeed, talk to Martin on a regular basis.
Martin was classified as a "Michigan booster" by the NCAA, even though he also gave money to other players over the years. Using the same standards, Sarniak has to be classified as an Ohio State booster. The NCAA should investigate Sarniak's relationship with Ohio State, and should be treated as an Ohio State booster for the purposes of determining Ohio State's punishment.
Ultimately, this is much worse than "lack of institutional control." This is a case of the institution, the Ohio State University, willfully encouraging cheating. That should be good for at least five years of probation.
is there any evidence of him giving anything to Pryor?
Or is it sufficient that he new of a violation and did nothing?
I guess I am having trouble seeing the relevance of his actions.
TP is under investigation concerning the origin of approximately 6-8 mystery cars he has been seen driving over the past few years, many of which seem to have had dealer plates.
Sarniak is a car dealer.
Thus, it appears *likely* that Sarniak did give TP access to automobiles on terms not available to the general public.
sarniak is definitely the owner of a glass factory, not a car dealer.
Cars have glass. Boom. Smoking gun.
Thanks for catching that, guys. My mistake. I was reading another article and realized I had gotten Sarniak mixed-up with Kniffen, and came back here to correct my error--not surprisingly, y'all had it covered.
it's tough to keep all the shady characters straight in the ongoing drama
Wasn't that the Sarniakmobile?
Normally, I'd advise staying as far away from the comments section of a news article as humanly possible -- but DO make sure you read the comments. They are absolutely delightful.
"Heaven forbid a coach reach out to a player's mentor! Saint Tressel was just recommending that Pryor pray EXTRA hard this week! For shame, Dispatch! For shame!"
"Coach has been fired! Why are we still talking about this?" (answer -- because the investigation will apparently never ever....ever....evereververever end)
Cheaty will consult the " Official Book on Redaction and other Evasive FOIA Tactics" by Kwame Kilpatrick
You can buy it at Borders.....I swear.
My favorite moment was after Kwame's sentencing hearing, when he said "Y'all done set me up for a comeback!"
This kind of thing is expensive, all the staff time involved in redacting emails and texts, meeting to try to figure out how you're going to handle the next thing coming down the pike, etc. It's a distraction, too.
They may be making Tressel pay for his own legal representation, but make no mistake about what his crappy decisions are costing OSU in blood, sweat and tears.
Not just Tressel, but all those jerks seem not to understand the concept of electronic records. How many more liars (welcome to the group, Roy Hall) will be exposed as people pore over phone and text messages? And there is no way in hell all those communications between a coach and athletic director are "personal" communications.
That last angle is one I find particularly intriguing. As the article suggests, it may be slightly sketchy to have someone who is either blatantly or potentially implicated in an ongoing investigation be able to effectively redact their own communications. I'm a huge fan of personal privacy, but a case like this begins to blur the line. For example, if Sarniak doesn't have any official connection to tOSU's program, are those communications "personal" and thus protected? They're certainly germane, however, so perhaps we aren't looking for a personal/professional divide, after all. But then you start getting into situations that make me increasingly uncomfortable...while the person under investigation shouldn't be trusted to be forthcoming, I'm not sure who should be given that power (tOSU officials, who have a vested (lolz) interest in keeping this quiet? The NCAA? The Dispatch?).
Wow, OSU is being amazingly uncooperative and borderline obstructionist with this investigation. You have to think that the NCAA will only come down more harshly as a result. They should just come clean and stop digging themselves a deeper hole. I can only imagine that Gee and Smith are in full self-preservation mode and aren't thinking at all about the future of the school/program.
And, the fact that they are stonewalling so hard only suggests they must have plenty left to hide.
Forget the NCAA, if they piss off the press by redacting too much, they'll end up in court. If I was the AP or the Dispatch and a few other papers, you'd have to wonder the odds of coming up with a huge story based off the Sarniak emails vs. the odds the Ohio courts would rule they were public records vs. the cost of the case.
Whether the Sarniak emails are worth it, who knows? But there probably will be something eventually worth it, especially since the press keeps getting stonewalled.
I think my school law course neglected the topics on whether e-mails and texts to third parties were covered under FERPA. How could this qualify under FERPA?
I know OSU says that they were protected, but then my question is why Tressel hasn't gotten into trouble from the administration for sending out protected student information to a third party. I'm not a lawyer but it seems like the only two possibilities are a) the material isn't covered by FERPA or b) Tressel violated FERPA in the first place even talking to Sarniak. I don't see how the records aren't either released or there isn't an investigation into Tressel's disregard for the law.
I love the picture of Gene Smith that goes with the article... let the handwringing begin.
OSU's Compliance Department appears to be inept in establishing protocols that foster compliance with NCAA rules, such as a simple notepad/ledger showing which equipment has been issued to which player. However, when it comes to stonewalling the media and responding to FOIA requests, OSU seems to have some effective strategies in place that have achieved several months of delay.
"Tell the truth and your problems are in the past, lie and your problems are in the future."
Or "keep dancing on the minefield assholes."
This is pure gold till fall camp.
Wow. What a great start to the day. Went perfect with a good cup of coffee.
My wife and I don't have 5,000 personal conversations in a year.
. . .
by the size of your MGoPoints.
I'm obviously a newb as this post wasn't supposed to end up here.
Move along now .... nothing to see here.
To all multi-millionaire head coaches:
Spend a couple grand a year on your own Blackberry.
Great way to start my day.
If Sarniak has ever given money to tOSU, would that make him a booster? And him being a booster make his relationship with Pryor against NCAA rules?
The Bucks are giving an absurdly expansive reading to FERPA, which exists to protect the privacy of "education records." While the statute is poorly written and very broad, it exists to protect grades, disciplinary actions for on campus incidents, test scores, school health records--you know, records having to do with the education of students on campus. But at tosu, among other things, they are claiming that records of the people who got free football tickets from players are "education records" so they have to redact the names of the students (players) and the names of the recipients (since you might be able to discover the identities of the players if the recipients were TED SARNIAK, for instance.) Give me a break. Someone is going to sue them for all this stuff, and will get a lot of what is being withheld.