I was actually embarrassed for Michigan State's football team, that program, and the school because there is no place for that. He is not representing that university well when he goes out there...you don't have to mar your performance by doing something so stupid! That was a punk move and he didn't need to do that.They also all agreed that this and like incidents reflect poorly on the coach. They discussed how the coaches are more like friends than coaches to the players, that discipline is lacking, and that player's don't respect the coaches authority.
College Gameday/Early Games Open Thread
I love that sparty spends more time booing Desmond and yelling "Little Sister" then focusing on this week. Insert comment that proves Little Brother status.
I agree, I feel like MSU is setting themselves up for a blowout because of the concern for the Gholston junk, and I realize this is the fans we are talking about, but Im sure the team has the same sense.
Not really sure why State fans like the "little sister" moniker so much.. It doesn't even make any sense. We beat them 67% of the times we've played, people actually care about who we are, and we're a better school (for good measure). After all, there's a reason they were so up in arms about the "little brother" comment - it hit so close to home. And the cheering at having felons for players? Much like their head coach, State fans manage to screw up one of their few chances at national attention.
Speaking of, how happy do you think he is that Russell Wilson wears 16? Him and Narduzzi could simply say "stick to the gameplan from last week guys, go for 16's head!"
it is completely moronic and makes absolutely zero sense..."BIG sister" might make more sense (it would still be completely lame but at least you can make an argument there).... I love it when they try to argue with you and they say "oh at Michigan you're just paying for the name"... and Idk how many msu friends you all have, but I swear to god every single one of mine tells me they were in "the best program in the nation" for their major. I would like to call a huge internet 'bullshit'. if msu had as many "top notch programs" as my friends claim they do, maybe everyone there wouldn't be at a sixth-grade reading level.
Every girl that was a slut in my high school went to MSU and I am not just saying that because I hate MSU, it is a fact.
I really wish I could create a Ven diagram reflecting this. Also, I wish I'd had this information when I visited EL while at U of M. Although I kind of just assumed this was the case with...most high schools in Michigan re: where their slutty females attended college.
When has MSU ever handled national exposure well? Last year they followed up nice wins against Wiscy and UM with a gack job to a mediocre Iowa team, and then were curb-stomped by Alabama in the bowl game after grousing about being passed over by OSU and Wiscy for BCS games. This year, they were stomped by ND, then beat UM. Now they have Wiscy coming to town, and I fully expect Wilson, Ball, etc. to just destroy them, probably ending the game by the 1st half. They'll then run through the rest of their schedule (which breaks down super-easy after Nebraska), and claim they should be playing in a better bowl game when they get passed over by PSU or UM. And then the cycle will continue.
Gotta love the class of Sparty fans to openly cheer when they show the clip of Tom twisting Denard's facemask. Unreal.
At the game, Sparty fans were actively yelling for someone to hurt Denard. Then, whenever he went down, multiple people would scream "Yeah! Stay down!" or "Yup, he's not coming back, that's what he gets," or similar.
I can understand rivalry and passion, but I could never hate a school/team so much that I'd want a player to get injured. These are college student athletes...
go Desmond my favorite sign is the free Gholston sign lol
That just proves how stupid they are. Don't they know their players name is Tom? What does Willy have to do with anything?
watching. The night games are stacked though.
I'm looking forward to LSU/Auburn at 3:30
The noon games are pretty bad though...
The suspensions should keep it interesting, although I still think LSU wins.
lsu is allways fun to watch MIles can make a laugher like the florida game intertaining and their punter is a boss for taunting on a touchdown run
guarantee all the sparty brahs have busta rhymes "break ya neck" on their pregame playlists today.
Enough to figure out how to create playlists.
upon further review, you're correct. it involves reading and writing.
Or are the signs there really fucking lame? "Brett Bielema too fat to jump around?" Really? God I hope Wisco knocks them down a few pegs.
I actually thought that one was pretty funny, one of the better ones for sure
I saw one a little bit ago that said "Erin Andrews make me a sandwich". Yeah...cool sign sparty. Also, they seem to be proud of their thugs with all the signs about Gholston and the one saying "Plax was framed".
Themselves on national television (again), why not let them?
And not to call out kettles and pots, but it's not like MSU people are known for being svelte themselves.
Cool little piece on jerry kill. I hope he turns Minnesota into a competitive team. Sad he had to walk into the tire fire Brewster left him with when he had a dominate team in dekalb. ( Mac standards)
The piece on Jerry Kill was good. As a fan of the comeback, I'm hoping he can find success.
He's good but not as good as all ND fans think he is.
Teo is also bad in pass coverage.
I don't think he is a top-5 LB, but at the same time this ND defense doesn't do him any favors. I still think he is a better LB than we see on Saturdays because of the team he plays on. He'll be an average LB in the pros, but that's horible.
How about the Plax was framed sign ... I guess someone else shot him down own his pants .. then framed him
Genius. Advertise all the idiots and felons your team has produced in the past decade. They pretty much do our in-state recruiting for us.
Two ten-year-old kids holding a sign that says STFU.
Gamer for sure.
Anyone else see the Lou Holtz "Water Hazard" sign. I enjoyed it
What is the sign that says Sparty heart's then there is a picture of a blonde guy below it. Looks to me like it says Sparty Loves Justin Bieber ... but I could be wrong
I hope there's more trash flying around Spartan Stadium tonight.
And no, I'm not talking about Mr. Situation.
I hate bye weeks. That is all.
Wish we could have got Sammy Watkins, that dude is a beast! Legit deep threat!
Illinois Purdue at 12 may be good. Scouting two future opponents. I know everybody says that Purdue is an automatic win but I don't think they're as bad as Minnesota or Indiana. Not saying PSU is anything to write home about but they did give them a game last week 23-18. That being said, I imagine Hoke and Company will have our team ready.
Too bad u didn't put money on that or you'd be profit
Is this corso segment more or less ridiculous than the five your old singing the theme song last week?
It was pretty awesome, as far as I'm concerned. If you don't like the Corso headgear pick, you're not a real college football fan.
"If you don't like the Corso headgear pick, you're not a real college football fan."
And, um, if you don't like Applebee's, you're not much into neighborhood restaurants.
I'd agree that the Corso headgear thing has "institution" status and should never be shelved, but it hasn't been really funny or entertaining for 10+ years. It's Andy Rooney, basically.
Nobody is as painful to watch as Andy Rooney
It's one of those unique things that makes college football awesome. Period. I'd take anything Gameday does above a sterile in-studio NFL pregame show with a bunch of well-coiffed washed-up coaches trying to find a way to make their Super Bowl rings flash just right for the cameras.
Eeee ... you're elevating Corso's schtick to the level of (say) marching bands? Sorry, again -- I just don't see it.
I agree on the NFL pregame shows, though. They're intolerable. NFL focus groups are probably more pitiful than ones for college football.
I wonder how many people watching even know who Mateen Cleaves is these days.
He was a Detroit Pistons 1st round draft pick BUST! That's who he is!
What kind of uncreative ignorant asshead makes a sign reading "Against the Matzo"? Really?
Corso gets it right.
Gus Johnson calling the OK St game on FX. I know which game I'm watching
I sent a crapton of tuition dollars to Madison, and so I generally root for Wisky when we're not playing them. I'm rooting for them especially fervently tonight to put a beatdown on the Juggalos in EL.
Seeing Sammy Watkins play is still depressing. Kid is the most exciting freshmen in the country.
why does Pam Ward always get Big Ten games?
Beth Mowins has the noon ESPN2 game not Pam Ward. Internet commentators have a troubling inability to tell female voices apart.
Their voices sound really similar, but if you take literally one second to listen to the actual commentary, you will realize that Mowins actually adds value instead of demeaning players and exhibiting a glaring lack of knowledge.
Well said. Aside from the unfortunate voice I've found her to be average to above average on most Saturdays.
I like this kid
the big ten looks like the acc circa 2007 (everyone beat everyone). OR purdue looks scary...Illinois not so good and Sparty our toughest opponent this year
Or are just both mediocre and Illinois got a lot of breaks to start the year?
I've suspected for some time that Illinois is a mediocre team that happened to play over its heads in that 3-point win over ASU. This is a team that barely squeaked by WMU and a partially Persa-less Northwestern.
aren't you supposed to have a good defense?
could be a tough game next week if they're executing like this
I was just thinking the same thing. They are shredding Illinois and using plays Michigan has had some trouble with.
So which one is it: Purdue is playing out of their minds, or Illinois is playing "just turrible"??
I think that, like us, Illinois got a lot of hype because of a high ranking that probably wasn't truly deserved. Illinois is a team that was waiting to fire their coach at the beginning of the year. We're starting to see a bit more of the "true" Illinois team the last two weeks. That, said, Purdue looks like a surprisingly solid team that we cannot overlook next week.
are derping it up
I see you used derp as a verb.
Iowa is looking pretty weak against Indiana. Who'd have thought that Purdue would look like our toughest opponent over the next three weeks?
Wow, Purdue has dominated this game so far. 21-0.
Ole Miss 17 - Arkansas 7 make me know that I can't predict college football or even what I will have for lunch.
Just random, every year. The Fightin' Heisenbergs.
Illinois experiencing inevitable regression to the Zook.
I was just thinking "same ol' Illinois."
There's a lot of people at the Purdue game...
Homecoming. The end zone looks a bit sparse when they show shots of the band, but the sideline seats are full.
So given their last 3 (?) results (barely winning against WMU & NW, getting blown ou by Purdue), I think the Illinois game is looking like a 90% win. I'm still not sold on Purdue, I think their last two games have just been against 2 bad teams. That will be closer than we thought at the beginning of the year, but still a 85% win imo. So the fate of the division really lies with how Nebraska plays against UM and MSU. It could go either way.
I don't think Illinois is all that great, but it will be a road game, and Champaign's another one of those wind-tunnel stadiums.
They dropped a 17-7 game against OSU last week
Hopefully Gholston was watching. That's the kind of hit that makes you look badass, not like a douchbag.
Hopefully the Illinois receiver is okay, obviously.
DERP DERP DERP
It is sooo Illinois to be down 21-0 at halftime to Purdue.
I thought Purdue was supposed to be one of our easier games this season?
I LOLed as soon as they lined up to spike it with :01 on the clock. That is pure Zook.
Iowa is hard to figure out. Most of the year they've looked pretty good offensively, but then they went to PSU and scored 3 points.
Clemson-UNC is sloppy.
Someone told me that the Indiana coach is a huge asshole who's pissed off that they're not winning and he's taking it out on his coaches and players right now.
They have had a huge number of players quit the team since he's been hired.
Kiel may soon open up his recruiting again, which would be a massive loss to IU's prospects. I actually feel bad for the Hoosiers at this point - they haven't been relevant for decades now, and they get rid of a decent guy (if a little bit of a hothead) for a jerk who can't help pissing off everyone.
May? He already has.
I wasn't sure; thanks for the update. When I last heard, he was considering opening it up.
Bill Lynch was not the answer, though. Terry Hoeppner was the right guy for that job, and his death was a devastating blow. He was turning them around. Lynch road his coattails to a bowl appearance in 2007, then promptly let it all fall apart.
a cupcake game for Sparty every year. I still can't believe Indiana and Sparty are a protected rivalry. I want MOAR teams in the B1G so we can get rid of shenanigans like that.
Ron Zook, punting inside the 40 some more.
should sign Zook to a lifetime contract. It's 4th and 2 from Purdue's 38 and you are down 21 - 0 and he punts. He is a freaking genius!!
What's up with that formation? I would send a person u the middle like crazy every time. Have them try and jump the three upmen and see what happens.
Why would you not go for it there on 4th and 2 ?
question again, then refer to your own subject line. You have your answer.
Indiana's monkey rodeo on 4th and goal from the 1 wiped out by a false start. FG instead.
Eastern has looked much improved over years in the past. Although improving on the usual 2 win seasons only requires getting that third win. If they can somehow hold on to their early lead against Western then they'd take the directional title this year. I wonder when that last happened?
Probably when Charlie Batch was QB at Eastern.
Probably even before that. EMU hasn't had a winning football season in 20 years.
It was as recent as 2007. However, in my own defense I was in Afghanistan during that football season. We only got big games/ news on AFN.
Edit: It was also done in 04' as well. Derp on my part I guess.
What was your favorite AFN commercial? I loved the "never shake your baby" one--especially in Iraq.
Well, any of the horrible commercials that showed what pathetic actors and actresses our fellow servicemembers are would be my "favorites." I know you are aware of all the "gems" of directing brilliance that I am referring to. PTSD actually stems from bad AFN commercials, of that i am convinced. #HALOL
Ron Zook: So it's a punting contest you want, is it?!!!
It's like Illinois is actively trying not to win. This Purdue team isn't good enough to be shutting out a non-Minnesota Big 10 team.
All of a sudden Iowa can't keep their QB upright against Indiana's defense. FG Iowa
last year, when Illinois was up 7 on Michigan late in the game and Zook punted on 4th and inches against the worst defense we've had in the modern era? He could have put that game away right then.
If anyone cared about Illinois football, this game would be a fantastic TWIS subject.
At a training conference two weeks ago, once of the speakers went out of his way to point out that Illinois is 6-0.
I wonder what he's up to now.
Urban Meyer: "Rubik's cube?"
Chris Spielman: "Yeah, it's that thing that scientists use, like you."
Iowa stops Indiana on 4th down. Potential epic interception under review.
38-17 Iowa, End 3rd.
I'm pretty sure that was 3rd down.
You know, you're probably right, but with Big 10 referees, you never can be sure. :D
If this gets ruled an INT for Iowa, one of the best defensive plays I've seen in a while. Wow.
I don't think it will stand up, but holy cow.
just said "have to score on every possession and probably one more".......how....is....this....POSSIBLE?
I believe that's called "Giving 110%".
Defensive/special teams score?
Sammy Watkins is tearing it up at Clemson. Too bad he didn't Go Blue because he is a hell of a playmaker.
Zook converted a 4th and 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP THE PRESSES
Purdue has some pretty good corner back play. Very impressive, Ricardo Allen And Josh Johnson are legit.
Big first down pick up for Mizzou. I smell an upset.
Fumble. That's called the MAgoBLUE kiss of death
Illini get a stop here and we have an interesting game.
Illinois' clock management is horrific.
Purdue's defense is playing better than at the start of the season, especially the stars (Short and Allen).
Eastern and Western in a battle. 10-7 Broncos, 11 to go.
EDIT: EMU trying to throw and it's going badly. Sack knocked them out of FG range on the previous drive, first play after the WMU FG they lose 15 on another sack.
What happened to WMU's offense? Is Carder still heatlhy?
He's playing. Eastern seems to be tackling well on a lot of short completions. 24-34 for 181.
And they just stuffed Western at the goal line, take over on downs up 14-10 with 5:02 to go.
Eastern wins, is 5-3 (though I think because they beat two 1-AA teams, they're still two wins from bowl eligibility). Also take the Directional Michigan championship.
Eastern plays Kent St. and Buffalo still. They are a combined 3-12. In addition I think that they can give Ball St. a game too. They are very much improved over their teams of the past 10 seasons or more.
Wow, I am shocked at this. EMU now has a better record than WMU, too. Kudos to English.
Minnesota just got hosed. Something tells me we will see a new rule next year about backward passes being batted forward.
that was terrible. i feel like that is the wrong call. im not buying the explanation.
Yeah, thought until they explained it that it was the worst call ever. Now I just think it's the worst rule ever. We should totally work that play into our playbook though... just bat the ball forward out of bounds.
Is anyone able to watch the Oregon game and know why they went for 2 on their first touchdown against an awful Colorado team? Those Kelly boys are just so classy.
Think they still do the swinging gate thing that they've done for at least five years. Colorado, being terrible, probably wasn't prepared for it.
LSU is so deep in that defensive backfield. I promise you every one in that the 2 deep or even 3 deep could start just about any where in the country. Morris Claiborne is a beast. By far their best pure cover man at CB.
Short term success in our absence but clearly this program is not building a foundation for long term success. The more I see, the less concerned I am