College Football Awards Show ESPN 9pm-10pm thread

Submitted by acnumber1 on

It's on now, RG III just beat out Luck for Davey O'Brien QB Award!  Heisman next for him.

 

Molk to get named Walter Camp All-American later in show.

 

Desmond working it with Erin Andrews.

BlueintheLou

December 8th, 2011 at 9:38 PM ^

I fail to understand what universe we live in if RGIII does not win the Heisman. He has had head and shoulders the best season of all of them. Ball should get second. Luck third. Matheiu fourth and Richardson fifth.

Griffin not winning will be a travesty.

My name ... is Tim

December 8th, 2011 at 10:23 PM ^

No one votes for the "best player". If that were the standard then Jake Long would have been considered. They don't vote on talent. Unless I'm not understanding what you mean there.

Also, how is RGIII not more valuable than Luck? Do you honestly believe that Baylor's supporting cast is better or comparable to Stanford's?

acnumber1

December 8th, 2011 at 10:05 PM ^

Rimington not scheduled for this broadcast, but Walter Camp team is, and Molk on that.  Also, the Home Depot (the power of) Coach of the Year to be announced.  I'm guessing Les or Nick as it's espn+home depot.

ken725

December 8th, 2011 at 10:15 PM ^

Another case of SEC bias here.  I think it is BS that Motee Ball didn't win the Doak Walker award.  

Montee Ball has more yards, and TDs and better YPC and YPG.  

m1jjb00

December 8th, 2011 at 10:21 PM ^

To be fair there's two considerations in richardaon's favor. Using s&p rush ratings Richardson ran against tougher defenses that remains true if you weight those rankings by carries. Second, ball has a better o line and qb to help out. In my mind that doesn't necessarily tip the balance but it is a counter to the pure stats analysis

LaMichael James might ask DaFuck?

bighouseinmate

December 8th, 2011 at 11:03 PM ^

Wisconsin played against the #96, 99, 95, FCS, 66, 118, 18, 50, 88, 90, 41, 46, 18(again). The average ends up at 68.75.

Alabama played against the #33, 46, 73, 78, 39, 27, 110, 70, 5, 65, FCS, 97. The average ends up at 58.45.

Not a major difference. Ball ended up 135 yds/game at 6.4 yds/carry and 32 TD's. Richardson had 132 yds/game at 6.0 yds/carry and 20 TD's.

Alabama had 33 total rushing TD's on the year and 220 yds/game meaning Richardson was 60% of their scoring via rushing and 60% of their rushing per game.

Wisconsin had 46 rushing TD's  on the year and 237 yds/game meaning Ball was 70% of their scoring via rushing and 57% of their rushing per game.

Conclusions to be made are that Richardson was slightly more important part of Alabama's rushing offense against slightly better competition overall while Ball was slightly less important to Wisconsin in terms of yardage per game but a lot more important to Wisconsin's rushing offense concerning scoring than Richardson was to Alabama.

In other words, their yardages are similar when laid out against the defenses they both faced, but Ball was much more of a scoring machine than Richardson was this year.

IMO, the award should have been Ball's due to the scoring difference.

bighouseinmate

December 8th, 2011 at 11:50 PM ^

.....between the two against their only common opponent, PSU.

Richardson had 26 carries for 106 yds and 2 TD's and 4.2 yds/carry..

Ball had 25 carries for 156 yds and 4 TD's and 6.2 yds/carry.

Who's the better RB? Ball had 51% of Wisconsin's carries while Richardson had 63% of Alabama's carries.

The post below  is exactly correct. This is nothing more than an ESPN/SEC lovefest and it's a travesty what has happened to the awards. Nothing more than a beauty pageant showcasing the top teams, not the top players.