I hate ND.
Peppers at 10, which seems low.
I hate ND.
I agree 100%.
Please, no ND in national title game.
I agree with you whole-heartedly. It makes me feel dirty to say so...dirty in a way that a dozen scalding hot showers won't cleanse, but still I agree with you.
discussed numerous times elsewhere.
but I am insanely pleased...
I'm more or less with you. I don't like the outlook for the MNC game, but I'll never stop rooting for the top ranked teams to lose (unless they're my teams, obviously). Ridiculous upsets late in the year are the best thing about college football.
Meh, seeing ND get demolished wouldn't be so bad I guess.
But what if they don't? What if they play like they did at oklahoma and knock off Alabama? I've been expecting them to lose all season and they just won't do it. I don't want to live in a world where ND are national champs.
they did against OU wont be nearly good enugh to beat Bama.
I'm pretty sure you could give ND 5 downs instead of 4 through the entire game and they'd still lose to Bama.
Even with their other worldly luck they've had this season.
Ahhh... Now I see why BISB stepped down.
Because someone wrote a post about college football, maybe not informative but certainly not offensive?
Heaven forbid an internet mod would ever have to deal with inchoate arguments....
Is there any real chance they beat Bama?
It's in Georgia, and the Dogs are one of the best teams Bama has faced this year. Should be a good game.
Unless Georgia got way better since I saw them at home vs Tennessee, or Alabama got way way way worse, no way. All of those highly ranked 1-loss SEC teams are crap. Georgia in particular is just dumb. Like we'd be forsaking half of that team for Stevie Brown 2009-level mistakes if we were rooting for them
TAMU tried the same gambit that M did: throw long and pray to the gods, and it worked. But Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, when you see them up close they're less scary than Nebraska this year. Tennessee could be Purdue. I realize they're supposed to be playing with a star better talent, and we've got five mid-major losses in the Big Ten this year, but I've watched more SEC games this year, live and on TV than any year prior and I'm sorry but they are far far far overblown. LSU is 1990s Michigan good, Bama is 2000s USC good--of the rest there isn't a team worth anything, and half the conference couldn't beat Indiana. If Oregon or K-State drops behind any of them it's a crime.
Since we're undoubtably playing one of them.
This is exactly how I've felt about mid-level SEC teams for a while. They get credit for beating quality competition, but that "quality competition" is just other mid-level SEC teams. It's a vicious cycle of overrated crap.
Right. The 4-7 Indiana powerhouse that was beaten by Ball State and that gave up 62 to Wisconsin is going to beat 10-1 Florida, 10-1 Georgia, 9-2 South Carolina, and 9-2 TA&M. If you say so.
I'm assuming he didn't mean the better half of the conference.
Kentucky, Vandy, et al. is what I meant. But I was being hyperbolic and forget the all-important "except for everybody else" part. Point remains: who have the SEC teams in the top ten played this year other than each other?
Vandy is actually a solid team.
How bout the worst of it all.If nd loses, Ohio wins.. Ohio "could" be ap national champions.. And drink
That would be the worst possible scenario imaginable.
To be fair, he did say "Ohio wins"...but I see what you did there. BEAT OHIO is understood.
Stanford and UCLA play this saturday. If Stanford wins, both teams will play a week later in the Pac-10 championship.
Oregon would get in over Florida, I think.
If Florida beats FSU, I think that gives them a leg up on Oregon.
still has to go to Tallahasee next Saturday. If Florida beats FSU, I doubt Oregon is ranked ahead of them. The only chance Oregon has to beat a ranked team is Oregon St (and maybe USC if USC beats ND). Oregon's schedule is going to hurt them now.
If Florida beats FSU, they'll have beaten FSU, LSU, South Carolina and Texas A&M.
Which thread do I post in, I'm confused????
You read the title, that's all I can muster as of now.
Pac 12 getting two in now seems likely
Michigan was always going to be an extreme long shot for a BCS bowl
Stanford has to play UCLA next week. If Stanford loses and Oregon beats Oregon St, it'll be Oregon vs UCLA for the Pac-10 title.
Woulda been nice for Oklahoma and Stanford to drop in the polls to help Michigan get to 14 but it was not our night.
There is a way that Ohio and ND can be champions in the same year....
No, if ND beat Bama in the BCS national championship, ND would also be #1 in the AP poll.
A pissed off USC. There is more drama to come. Lets hope Oregon doesn't fall out of top 3. I'm probably dreaming.
Who knows. At this point, UCS has to be considered one of the most disappointing teams in the country based upon pre-season hype. Whether they're pissed off or have thrown in the towel remains to be seen.
Either way Monte Kiffin has turned what once was a stud USC defense into a joke.
Moo U. is the biggest joke of a team based upon pre-season hype.
Oregon is going to drop. Probably to around 5 behind ND, Bama, Georgia, and Florida.
You just cannot lost to a team like Stanford at home and expect to get the benefit of the doubt from the voters. Especially when you're going against SEC teams.
And I know Stanford is a good team. But ND beat them, and they are considered an unathletic team and started a freshman QB in his first road start.
Barkley's arm is in a sling. Doesnt matter how pissed off they are.
What about '09. Pretty sure bama took care of business that season and went 14-0
Also , last tear LSU "took care of business" just lost to the better team in title game.
No McCoy got injured otherwise Texas was going to hammer them. Texas almost beat the with a freshman QB.
Georgia will not blow out ND- ND defense can hang around with Georgia jsut fine and the ND offense can do enough to make it a spirited game. GA is not all that. Bama on the other hand...
Agreed. ND beats Georgia. ND gets mooshed by Bama. I think ND loses to USC though and its Bama Oregon in the NC. Please, please no ND, SEC on SEC incestbowl, or Ohio AP national title.
OU still has to play Oklahoma St and Stanford still has to play UCLA next weekend. If they beat UCLA, they'll play them again in the Pac-12 title game.
The best part about all this to me is that the little kid on gameday this morning got almost all of his picks right and made Corso look like the midget. Too bad his favorite team was the one he picked wrong. He picked UCLA, Baylor, OU, and Utah State though off the top of my head.
which on paper looked like an awful pick but Yale was right in there for most of that game
I know! He just secured a slot on next year's show and he has Jimmy the Greek written all over him. The Baylor pick was priceless.
I'd love to hear all about how ND is going to recapture glory only to get their brains beat in by alabama.
Yeah I guess I dont get all the bitching going on. Alabama, the best team in the country, will likely win the MNC. I'm not interested in seeing KSU play ND for the title of luckiest team to win all their games and benefit from fortunate scheduling. Yes Bama's tactics are questionable, but that's up to the NCAA to crack down on. Until then we have no choice but to compete with them. The only potential catastrophe will be if Ohio somehow survives next weekend and we have to hear from them and the media about them. They deserve nothing.
Essentially, we're playing in the AP national championship game. Althought not for a shot at at, but if if we lose and what everyone expects will happen happens (alabama destroys nd), then ohio will win the AP.
This is a huge game. We have a season to ruin. Beat Ohio
That would be extra sweet to ruin the Buckeyes' AP hopes should all that come to pass.
Nah. UGA and Bama were both ahead of ohio in the most recent AP poll.
Ohio won't get the AP title. The Big Ten's suckitude hinders their chances. That they played no one in their OOV schedule also plays a factor.
Depends on how far Oregon drops. If they drop to 4 Alabama beats georgia in the sec championship game, ND loses to USC, Oregon wins out could be oregon Alabama NCG.
What if Manti Te'o wins the Heisman?
Has anyone ever thought..."what if ND wins it all?"
is Alabama the IRS in this case? Or are they the park owner who gets the park back after other people held onto it for them for a short while
Totally the park owner. #1 really belonged to Alabama the whole time.
Unfortunately, they will drop Oregon below Lsu, Georgia , Florida and FSU, so to make it difficult for them to rise back up.
FSU is ranked like 10th. Oregon is going to have to drop a lot to fall that far.
in the SEC title game. The only possible all-SEC matchup is Florida versus Bama.
LSU wins over Arkansas + FSU win vs. Florida + Beaver win vs. Ducks + GT win followed by UGA win or Auburn win followed by Bama win + LSU win over ND = LSU national champs. This is obviously happening.
2 loss LSU will not be jumping multiple 1 loss teams. It is just not happening.
Ohio fans, being banned from a bowl game and as delusional as ever, are talking AP national title. We have a chance to give them a dose of reality letting them know that they aren't that good and hopefully we can make sure that Braxton Miller doesn't get to put on a suit and make a trip to NYC.
Well, looks like the Mayans were right.
wrong thread :(
There goes Michigan's chance at an at large BCS berth.
This seems to have been thrown around as concensus, but are we sure Alabama jumps to #2? Why can't Oregon stay ahead of them? It's not unreasonable to think Stanford is better that A&M, and they took Stanford to OT with a boat load of defensive players out.
College football is catching up to Browns fandom fast.
Can't you smell that smell? Notre Dame is now number one. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
As you may know, Jerry Palm does an estimation of the BCS rankings every Sunday, and the link below provides his own data for all games played through yesterday.
You will note that the only two Big Ten teams in the Top 25, by his figuring, are Nebraska (14) and Michigan (19). The top five in this prediction are, in order - Notre Dame, Alabama, Georgia, Florida and Oregon. We shall find out for real at 8:30 PM tonight, of course, but if this turns out to be the case, I guess we wait for the results of the SEC Championship game then and / or hope that USC can find its inner former self against ND.