College Basketball Open Thread

Submitted by Bambi on

A big day of basketball today, with a few ranked games going on currently;

  • #1 Florida's routs #25 Kentucky 84-65 in Florida
  • #8 Kansas loses as WVU holds on 92-86
  • #15 Cincinnati pulls one out 70-66 over Rutgers.
  • #18 SMU loses 67-58 at #20 Memphis in another ranked matchup

Kansas losing would is nice as it lessens the gap between them and Michigan and increase Michigan's chances for a 2 seed.

There are also some good games on tap for later, including;

  • #19 UConn trails @ #11 Louisville 28-17 right before half
  • Bubble team Georgetown trails 38-27 @ #6 Villanova
  • Oklahoma State leading #18 Iowa State 32-25
  • #3 Arizona @ bubble team Oregon at 4
  • Our game at 6
  • Bubble team Providence @ #13 Creighton at 8
  • The headliner, #14 UNC @ #4 Duke at 9
  • #21 New Mexico @ #10 SDSU at 10
  • As well as a bunch of smaller conference tournament games (including Wichita State at 2:30) and a few SEC and Pac-12 bubble teams playing each other

So if you can, do what I'm going to and just plant yourself on your couch to enjoy a great day of college hoops

Steves_Wolverines

March 8th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^

And Iowa is taking on Illinois in the other Big-10 game tonight at 8:30 on BTN.

And watching this UK-UF game, I can't help but think that we would break Florida's trap and destroy them like we did last year. 

WolverineHistorian

March 8th, 2014 at 1:23 PM ^

It's interesting to look at Florida's results this year.  Yes, they're #1 and yes, they have won 20 straight.  But they play in the SEC, which is awful.  Kentucky will fall out of the rankings after this leaving the Gators the only conference team ranked. 

During their winning streak, look at how many close calls they have survived against so/so teams...

*1 point win over Florida State

*2 point win over Memphis

*2 point win over Arkansas

*5 point win over Auburn

*4 point win over Alabama

*4 point win over Auburn

*4 point win over Ole Miss

*3 point win over Vanderbilt

I wouldn't expect the #1 team in the country to have that many struggles.  I'll be interested when the tournament starts to see how far they'll go.

Sambojangles

March 8th, 2014 at 2:59 PM ^

Interesting that they have so many close wins this season, given this kenpom article from last season which talks about how they were 0-6 in close games last season, and "predicts" that they will lose a close game in the tournament. Of course they did lose, but it was gloriously not close.

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/florida_probably_will_lose_and_it_will_probably_be_close

gwkrlghl

March 8th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^

Maybe I'm a hater, but it's looking to me like we'll end up with several two and three seeds better than some one seeds: Florida and Wichita State

I'm sure both of those teams are good, but they play in downy soft conferences. I have more faith in Virginia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Syracuse, etc. making a deep run than I do either of those two

Avant's Hands

March 8th, 2014 at 1:27 PM ^

I'm in the minority, but I think this sentiment is really overblown. If the last five years have taught us anything it's that good teams that can make plays can do just fine in march. Obviously they aren't the same team, but Wichita state did just fine last year while playing in the same conference. I think we all remember what happened to Florida.

And absolutely no one should trust Wisconsin to do anything in march. Being a good team from a solid conference doesn't mean you will have any greater chance at success. Ask Kansas and Georgetown.

Steves_Wolverines

March 8th, 2014 at 1:37 PM ^

Well there are definitly two solid sides to this topic. Yes there are going to be flaky teams from power conferences that will lose early in the Tourny (ie OSU this year would be a good upest pick).

But I think in general we tend to see teams from non-power conferences that roll through the regular season struggle in the NCAAT. I mean even last year Wichita State lost 6 games on their way to the Final Four. 

 

Avant's Hands

March 8th, 2014 at 1:47 PM ^

Definitely mid majors that make the final four are the exception and not the rule, but it's becoming a lot less of an exception every year. Saying Wichita is not a top 5 team because you haven't seen them play solid competition is a fair statement. The people that say Wichita sux lulz easy schedule are just ignorant college basketball fans. They are a good team period. Creighton did not magically get better when they joined the big east.

gwkrlghl

March 8th, 2014 at 2:12 PM ^

I just think Wichita State is probably a team that's really somewere between say #8 and #15. They're good, but they would've picked up some losses if they played a full season in the Big 12, Big Ten, or ACC. I think they're a solid 2-4 seed that will advance, I just don't think they're truly a 1-seed.

Same for Florida. They're running over a bad SEC and Kentucky is the only ranked team they've played since Dec 17. If they played in a better conference they'd probably be team that's 15-3 / 14-4 in conference and not 17-0 which would make them a solid 2-3 seed as well.

Avant's Hands

March 8th, 2014 at 1:21 PM ^

If you enjoy a fast paced game full of turnovers and missed lay ups you will love smu-Memphis. The second half is a little better but wow. This is incredible to watch.

Bambi

March 8th, 2014 at 1:25 PM ^

WVU up 22 on Kansas with 17 left in the second half. Bill self has already called all 5 timeouts. Great game by the Mountaineers

LS And Play

March 8th, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^

At the rate all these top teams are losing, Michigan is slowly creeping closer to 1-seed territory. Obviously still a very long shot, but you never know...

mi93

March 8th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^

Was just thinking about with all the games, is there anyone you've seen today or this year that would be a nice fit at UofM.  Certainly lots of talent across the country, but I'm thinking specifically about:

- Good basketball IQ

- Good defense, moves well without the ball

- Decent shooter / shooting stroke

- Not a one-and-done player (so no Wiggins, Parker, Gordon, et al)

I'm very much enjoying watching Devin Williams of WVU.  Nice mid-range jumper, some hustle plays, not a woofer, strong inside.  Granted, no Joel Embiid today, but Williams has been fun to watch.

Hardware Sushi

March 8th, 2014 at 1:33 PM ^

Man, Cal can recruit but can't get his guys to play team basketball. Kentucky cannot get anything going other than a drive down the lane then floater alleyoop. That's literally their only play. The Harrison's may have size and athleticism but I think Walton is 10x smarter at the point (granted he has teammates playing team basketball). Gotta say everyone but Randle was grossly overrated.

Florida looks pretty good here but I'm with you in that their schedule is poo dollar and lost to the decent non-con teams they've played while playing their ESS EEE SEE schedule way too close to be number one.

Bambi

March 8th, 2014 at 1:47 PM ^

If you have ESPNNews or ESPN3 turn on the Rutgers-Cinci game. RU is up 1 with less than 3 minutes left and 2 FT's coming up for Cinci

LSAClassOf2000

March 8th, 2014 at 1:58 PM ^

Kansas is managing only a 44.56% effective FG% right now ans they are just 3-13 from beyond the arc. If you want a fun stat from this game, both teams have free throw rates of 50% or better, but they are also both under 70% at the line. WVU also has an offensive rebound percentage of 48.18% right now. 

B-Nut-GoBlue

March 8th, 2014 at 2:05 PM ^

Yea just turned the tube on a bit ago and saw Kansas' 1-seed line slipping away.  Srsly, they can't keep a 1-seed after this, right?

I'm of the mindset Florida is good; really good this year.  I want nothing to do with them.  I think they would dominate us down low too much.  Witchita St. is another team I'm not sure why everyone's down on.  They played awesome ball last March and have most of the same players?  And they just went undefeated.  Why do people think they're overrated?  I honestly think we match up better with them than Florida but really don't want any part of them either.

Bambi

March 8th, 2014 at 2:08 PM ^

Kansas has managed to cut the lead in half since it was 25, but hot damn Wiggins is good. He has basically done this all by himself, he has 39 of his teams points, the rest of his team has 34.

Avant's Hands

March 8th, 2014 at 2:09 PM ^

Say what you want about Kansas but Wiggins can straight play. If he had any help at all today Kansas would be up big. Also remember that Kansas is playing without embiid (?) today.

Steves_Wolverines

March 8th, 2014 at 2:14 PM ^

Oh my. WVU forgot how to play basketball. And Wiggins is ready for the NBA. What a great player. Watch him put on some weight and he'll be right up there with LBJ easy. 

Bambi

March 8th, 2014 at 2:16 PM ^

St. Johns, who according to Lunardi is the 6th team out of the tourney, had a 6 point lead over Marquette with 11 seconds left and just blew it to send it into OT