Colin Samuel cancels official visit
According to Lorenz.
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This has been an extremely disappointing day in the Michigan recruiting world.
January 26th, 2015 at 11:18 PM ^
He said he would continue to recruit the position. There is a difference and I would expect any coach to do it this late in the cycle. You can't be left unprotected if they decide to leave at the last minute.
January 26th, 2015 at 9:59 PM ^
I appreciate our current class a lot for sticking it out and nothing will change that.. But how come Michigan commits (who have decommitted) can't do what all these prospects are doing to JH...
Seriously, just seems like Michigan always get short changed on prospects (so to speak with highly rated prospects)... I hope 2016 will change that..
January 26th, 2015 at 10:11 PM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 11:12 PM ^
But several were not during transitional period.. You think of who we lost
George Campbell
Damien Harris
Shaun Crawford
Darian Roseboro
Mike Weber
Darrin Kirkland
Chris Clark (hope we get him back but not looking good)
Some were not during transitional period.. It was in the before or in the middle of Hoke's last year... Just that seems like Michigan could get poach so easily this year... But I definitely know what you are saying..
I just hope that in the next couple of years, JH gets firm commits like Saban gets with his commits... Just a matter of time and winning...
January 27th, 2015 at 1:37 AM ^
They left when we started losing and Hoke was on the hot seat. It was pre-emptive for many of them.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:00 PM ^
Jim is trying to squeeze 12-24 month process in 1 month. It isn't easy.
That said I look forward to playing UCLA in the Rose in a few years - Mora will be long gone and Harbaugh won't.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:22 PM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 10:29 PM ^
Huh? Why would you think that. Mora has UCLA on an upward track and from all indications loves living in LA. Along with a fan base that has, mostly, reasonable expectations for football and thats a recipe for sticking around for a long time. Of the two coaches, I'd honestly bet on Harbaugh leaving before Mora.
January 26th, 2015 at 11:35 PM ^
With Mora interviewing this past off-season, I would think he would bolt if he had a HC position (give or take certain conditions were met).. If he is so happy, he would not be interviewing NFL HC positions... I think he didn't leave becaue he did not get the offer he wanted...
Again, people had made bets that JH would never go back to college after his successful stint at SF.. I think JH would be in the Michigan position much longer than Mora... In many ways (if we take all the other factors out), Mora had a few year head start compare to JH in going back to the NFL (but I believe JH will stay for a while in comparison to Mora)..
January 27th, 2015 at 9:48 AM ^
Mora never interviewed for the Jets job and the 9er's never approached him. Facts are fun things when you look at them. Not saying Jim isn't going to be here for a while but Mora has had numerous chances to leave and hasn't taken them.
January 27th, 2015 at 8:37 AM ^
Mora has interviewed for NFL jobs recently.
Coach Harbaugh is raising an army and building a cathedral to live in.
I take the man at his word. He isn't going anywhere for a long time.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:01 PM ^
Jimmy got coaches threatning to yank schollys if they visit Michigan lol. Yea college world we are a threat, hide yo kids, hide your wife!
January 26th, 2015 at 10:04 PM ^
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January 26th, 2015 at 10:05 PM ^
This has to be the qoute of 2015 thus far lol
January 26th, 2015 at 10:25 PM ^
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January 26th, 2015 at 10:58 PM ^
Excellent sir, excellent!!
January 26th, 2015 at 10:07 PM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 10:08 PM ^
It never was going to be easy to get solid recruits in a month. Hoke filled up his first class with a bunch of 2 stars and 3 stars who never saw the field with the exception of Frank Clark then signed back to back top 10 classes. Harbaugh will be a very good recruiter when the kids haven't already made up their mind for a year where they want to go. There's a ton of top talent interested in us for 2016 and hey we still have Chris Clark out there for this class.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:34 PM ^
Well like all things a portion of the fanbase is unrealistic. Some expect a bunch of committed 4 stars with 1-2 year relationships to drop everything in 3 weeks for Harbaugh. Not reality.
THey also compare to Urban who has a lot of inherent advantages - way more talent in state that has dreamt its whole life to go to OSU AND are actually top shelf talent (much more limited amount of players like that in MI), 1 down year for OSU vs nearly every teenager's entire teenage years for UM, Urban had 1 more entire month to work recruits, including prior to Dec 15th dead period, etc.
That said does anyone know of a site that can quickly show the order of how that 2011 class fell? I'd be curious to take a look back and see who committed at what date? Or if not can we see who Hoke closed on vs RichRod? It would be interesting to see what came of Hoke's players.
Again we should be VERY happy this class is tiny. If Funchess, Hayes, Ferns, and Bosch had not gone it probably would be 9 players right now. Even now its 13+. If this transition had happened in 2017 we'd be f********* for the next 2-4 years with a 26+ class.
January 26th, 2015 at 11:37 PM ^
Rivals.com allows you to organize recruits by the date they committed:
Looks after Hoke was hired, he brought in: Three 4-star recruits, six 3-star, and one 2-star kicker
Looks like Urban brought in: one 5-star, eight 4-stars, and one 3-star after getting hired
January 26th, 2015 at 11:55 PM ^
January 27th, 2015 at 12:29 AM ^
I was just merely providing a resource that would allow OP to organize recruits by committment dates.
Also Urban was hired on November 28th, Brady Hoke on January 11th, and Harbaugh on December 30th...
IIRC, there is a month-long NCAA recruiting "dead period" from December 15th to January 15th, so Urban did have a little over two weeks advantage in recruiting over the other two coaches.
Overall, very few of those recruited ended up as starterst:
Se'Von Pittman - Transferred
Tommy Schutt - Backup DT
Noah Spence - Started, Suspended, Transferred...
Taylor Decker - Starter
Joey O'Connor - Career-ending injuries
David Perkins - Transferred
Cam Williams - Buried in depth chart
Armani Reeves - Started, Injured, Medical Redshirt?
Jamal Marcus - Expelled from team
Kyle Dodson - Buried in depth chart
January 27th, 2015 at 1:19 AM ^
Career-ending injuries
http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2014/12/17/7411431/ohio-state-lineman-…
January 27th, 2015 at 12:22 AM ^
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January 27th, 2015 at 1:41 AM ^
Forgot about that. Good catch.
January 27th, 2015 at 12:26 AM ^
Thanks, I wish I had seen your response earlier. I search every guy's name by "Hello" post instead :)
January 26th, 2015 at 10:08 PM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 10:08 PM ^
It appears that the recruits can't say no when they are face-to-face with our coaches. That bodes well for the future when Harbaugh and company are meeting and talking with players who haven't already committed somewhere.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:15 PM ^
We flipped a guy from Texas and Nebraska in 2 weeks. Just wait for the 2016 class. It will be up there with Urban's.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:24 PM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 10:54 PM ^
recruit and coach. He's been wondering what it takes to win.
January 26th, 2015 at 11:10 PM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 10:28 PM ^
filled with 4 and 5* recruits.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:15 PM ^
Its a damn miracle we're getting anyone with a 3 week window; after we win games next year we'll do alot better. Just a little recruitin' pain for now.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:27 PM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 10:33 PM ^
My guess is these recruits are genuinely excited about a Michigan offer. They get a call from Jim Harbaugh this late in the game, of course they want to visit. But then Mora, Saban, etc. whoever's been recruiting them for months or even years reels them back in before they get a chance to visit or seriously consider M.
January 26th, 2015 at 11:58 PM ^
if i was a coach. i would tell them the same as brady. visit and you lose your place in line. that makes them think really hard.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:46 PM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 10:47 PM ^
so he was really throwing it in UCLA's face by saying he was going to Michigan for an official. It's not surprising that it didn't go well.
January 26th, 2015 at 10:56 PM ^
January 27th, 2015 at 7:14 AM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 11:08 PM ^
You can't look at it that way. You have to figure a lot of these kids are entrenched. A lot of these programs are like "You better like what you see because your spot is gone if you visit". A lot of pressure on these kids to do the right thing..
January 26th, 2015 at 11:27 PM ^
January 26th, 2015 at 11:46 PM ^
Harbaugh > Mora. Watched him struggle bad here with the Seahawks. He is a nice guy though.
January 27th, 2015 at 12:05 AM ^
I say let's be happy with what we get in such limited time (and obviously be thrilled we have a coach like Harbaugh!). There's no doubt there's already talent on this team, and there's no doubt Harbaugh and this excellent staff can coach it. Yeah, I'd like to land more and better recruits right now.. but it's hard when kids have been talking to/commited to schools for months to years now. I am about ready to see these kids coached to their best ability in 2015, meanwhile Coach Harbaugh will be bringing in one of the best recruiting classes possible for 2016.
January 27th, 2015 at 1:37 AM ^
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January 27th, 2015 at 1:46 AM ^
Yeah, let's get the rest of Texas's recruits. Then we can circle back to UCLA.
January 27th, 2015 at 2:29 AM ^
"an exctremely dissappointing day..." WTF?