Colin Cowherd: "Michigan not a raucous environment"

Submitted by lukepanici on

He says ND will come into the big house and win, citing Michigan's lack of a rowdy environment and basically saying Michigan Stadium is not much of a home field advantage.

For everyone that will be there, we finna bring it..

Go Blue! Lets kick some Irish Ass and leave 'em looking like..

maybe I was wrong about their fans

M-Wolverine

September 8th, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^

He had to be right about something once in his life. It's not the loudest.  Yet somehow we've still won more games than anyone else ever, so I don't know if that is a reason to predict a win or a loss.

Greg McMurtry

September 8th, 2011 at 12:46 PM ^

Go to the main page and watch the last clip of the game--the "Toussaint bounces like whoah" play from the UFR.  People are pissed that the game has been postponed and are sensing another postponement.  Michigan is on offense and I'm sure the stadium is no longer packed.  Listen how loud it is, again this is while Michigan is on offense.

HighSociety

September 8th, 2011 at 12:47 PM ^

I wouldn't call Michigan a raucous environment either and they are 11-11 at home the last 3 years also, but this is a new era and a huge chance for a statement game early in Hoke's tenure.

SMFH58

September 8th, 2011 at 12:47 PM ^

I think he is giving way too much credit to the fans affect on the outcome of the game. Besides that, Michigan was able to win in South Bend last year.

newfoundhbomb

September 8th, 2011 at 12:47 PM ^

i have been to both michigan stadium and penn state to watch a michigan game and i must say that penn state was alot more hostile.  I still remember the guy a few rows behind me at the big house telling me to sit down when Denard would break a big run.  I wanted to tell him that if wanted to sit and watch the game he should have stayed home, besides the student section at michigan it was almost like a golf tournament (golfers cheering).    we have the largest stadium in the country and we need to turn it into a homefield advantage. 

icefins26

September 8th, 2011 at 12:51 PM ^

I might get hammered for this but after the pregame pump up video, they should put together a variety of clips from througout the years of people saying how Michigan Stadium is quiet. Honestly, I think it will piss people off and cause the place to implode.
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<br>South Carolina plays a clip of Corso saying that South Carolina won't win the SEC ever. The place erupts.

markusr2007

September 8th, 2011 at 12:53 PM ^

when it wants to be.  Perhaps more of the blue-haired senior citizens, you know the "Awww jeeze, these damn kids, I can't see! Harriet!" have decided to watch the football games from the comfort of their living rooms.  I think it's louder now than before. 

My worry is that  a couple big Rees to Floyd connections for 6 will probably take the UM crowd out of the equation early.  Get a lead on Michigan and things get crickety.  I hope I'm 100% wrong about this.

 

 

Indiana Blue

September 8th, 2011 at 12:59 PM ^

last night on B1G Network they showed the 2009 Michigan victory over nd.  Perhaps Colin forgot that nd is 1 - 5 at the Big House since 1997.   Thar's right they are 1-4 in the last 5 games played at either stadium and 1 - 5 at Michigan. This looks very much like a home field advantage!   Hmmm ... 1 - 6 anyone?

Go Blue!

bronxblue

September 8th, 2011 at 1:01 PM ^

Michigan Stadium will never be as load as Autzen or some of the others, but when the game is big and the crowd is into it, it can be quite defeaning. 

As for Cowherd, so what?  He is a radio/tv personality trying to stir up talk and calls, so I'm not surprised he would make such assertions.  He's a passionate sports fan but also one who is not opposed to putting his derrier on his head to protect against the elements.  In other news, water wet, sky blue, no politics at MGoBlog, etc.

adamreece

September 8th, 2011 at 1:07 PM ^

I've always thought Michigan Stadium should be way louder than what it is, considering how many people are put in that place. When Herron broke that pick 6, it was pretty loud, but I wish it would be that way EVERY 3rd down.

I agree with others that Cowturd is an idiot for thinking it guarantees an ND win. I can only imagine the crowd will be pretty amped for this game, since people are paying good money to be there, and it's a night game, where the older alumni won't make it out.

Everyone Murders

September 8th, 2011 at 1:13 PM ^

Just wait until ND hears the intimidating sound of hundreds of sets of keys rattling on critical downs!  That tinkling sound will bring the Irish to their knees (or at least have them genuflecting). 

Put another way, I hate to admit it, but Cowherd's got a point.  The stadium can get loud at times, but "raucous" is not how I'd describe the scene.  I'm guessing the night game will be louder than most home games, but nothing that would make an SEC fan look up from their Jeremiah Weed.

Don

September 8th, 2011 at 1:18 PM ^

1. Rough-sounding; harsh. 2. Boisterous, disorderly.

In the context of athletic events, definition #2 is more relevant. Michigan Stadium can verge on boisterous at occasional moments, but I'd never call us disorderly.

That doesn't mean we can't be damn loud, though.

BornInAA

September 8th, 2011 at 1:19 PM ^

is overrated in college football and in most sports. I think basketball is the only sport where it matters. Did home field advantage work for ND last week?

To get in the BCS picture you need to win at home and on the road.

"Home Field Advantage" is a dumb topic that dumb talking heads bring up when they have nothing else to say.

COB

September 8th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^

At least on your first point.  As to ND losing at home well, home field advantage isn't called "home field fixed game" for a reason.  College football home field is a very real advantage.   Stadiums like Autzen, the Swamp, Death Valley (the real one, not Clemson) are substantial advantages.  It's not even the size that matters as Death Valley (~92k), Autzen (~60k) and the swamp (~90k) are bigger home field advantages than say, Beaver Stadium or Neyland.  College venues are so unique in size, shape and crowd make-up/drunkenness that the advantages vary considerably unlike the NFL/NBA venues. 

 

CompleteLunacy

September 8th, 2011 at 1:33 PM ^

It isn't really a racous environment. Not like some SEC schools who are always always always loud as f%^k.

But he's dead wrong in saying THAT's why ND will win. Michigan fans are nitpicky...but they DO know how to get loud. And he completely ignores a big point...regardless of crowd noise, the Big House is a very intimidating stadium, it knows how to rally behind its team when it matters the most. And besides, I'm not sure how the Big house WON'T be loud for its first night game ever against a rival.

Of course, if ND takes an early lead and holds onto it...then that's a whole different issue. 

But I highly doubt lack-of-crowd-noise will be anything resembling a key factor in the outcome on Saturday.

adammeekhof

September 8th, 2011 at 1:34 PM ^

I think Cowherd says crap like this just to get people talking.  He knows nothing about sports is only on T.V. because he pisses people off and then we watch to see what idiotic thing he says next.  He rips off tons of peoples radio bits and articles and give no credit.  I can't wait for the day when he is cancelled.

 

 

LB

September 8th, 2011 at 1:57 PM ^

tradition of animal husbandry, like MSU, for example?

I'm not quite blue-haired, but I'm closer in age to that group than to college students. Over the years, I have sat in almost every (open) area of the stadium, including the student section. In all that time, I have never been bothered by someone standing, probably because I'm taller than average when I stand, and I stand when something exciting happens, such as a football game. I have also never had anyone ask me to sit down, probably because I see no need to stand in front of someone through the entire game, student section  excluded, of course. I am also proud of the fact that that the couple next to me at the WMU game left with their very young daughters because of the heat and threatening weather, not because of raucous fans. Cowherd be damned. As a side note, I did not notice any  coolers with surprises inside either.

TNgoblue

September 8th, 2011 at 2:13 PM ^

 I recently moved to Tennessee and attend their games (son is a graduate). These fans down south are so much louder than us. When the UT opponent is in a third down situation, the stadium erupts in even more noise. I attended the game Sat and, except for a few instances, only the students made noise. The other 90,000 need to stand up and make noise to give us the home field advantage all the time. (Good luck changing the UM stadium culture!)

ryebadger

September 8th, 2011 at 2:24 PM ^

Do you really want the Michigan Stadium crowd to be like they are in the SEC? There are some college atmospheres that are loud and still collegiate, largely as a result of well organized, clever student sections (Penn State) or acoustics (Autzen) but the brand of hysteria they boast of in the SEC is not for me.

I'm actually proud that my school doesn't draw 80,000 to a spring game, like they do at Alabama.  Sorry, but at least try to pretend there's an academic institution attached to the football program.

HoldTheRope

September 8th, 2011 at 10:23 PM ^

No offense, but this is such a Michigan fan point to make. Last time I checked, passion (iin this instance, loudness) for football and intelligence are not mutually exclusive (despite the fact that it seems that way). Also, what is the "brand of hysteria" that the SEC boasts? What does that even mean/how is this brand different than that of PSU, Oregon, etc.? There are plenty of things to make fun of regarding Alabama, but turning your nose up at the thought up a well-attended spring game is just kind of arrogant. As somebody who has lived down there, trust me when I say that there are a lot of things to make fun of them for, but loving their team enough to go to a spring game is far down the list. 

Anyway, as a recent grad I'm dreading the day that I'll have to come back and start sitting outside of the student section. I remember being at the homecoming game in 2004 against Minnesota (the one with the game winning TD pass from Henne to Ecker), and a guy sitting in front of me sat stone-faced the entire game, not wearing a single article of Michigan clothing. Only at the very end of the game did I find out that he was a Michigan fan, which to be honest with you is ridiculous. 

I've been to PSU, OSU, and Auburn, and all three were much louder. Sure, the Big House can get comparably loud on occasion (the stadium during the Toussaint run mentioned at some point in the thread was extremely loud on TV, but then again that loudness was mostly due to the weather and not any desire to "help" the team). Unfortunately, this is the way things are. If you don't want to stand all game, fine I guess (I can't even sit when I'm watching in the comfort of my own living room) but for goodness sake show some emotion, act like you want to be there. Anyway, it's all incredibly frustrating but there's really nothing anybody can do about it. 

rpel84

September 8th, 2011 at 2:31 PM ^

I was in the 2nd row at the Wester vs UM game last week and I cant tell you how many times I was yelled at and cursed at and told to sit the F#$@ down by UM fans.  It was unbelievable.  One guy was threatening me if I didnt sit down when out D had its back against the wall in the redzone a few times.  I wont stop going to the games, but people like that need to stay home and watch where they dont have to yell at me to sit down while I'm trying to cheer on my team.  I paid just as much for those seats as they did and I have every right to stand and yell for our team.  That is what is wrong with the environment at our games.  And that is why people dog us as not having a loud stadium.  You cant tell me that 110,000 people cant get loud.  But they cant get loud with people in the stands like the people that were behind me.  That is what needs to change.

M-jed

September 8th, 2011 at 2:34 PM ^

A few things come to mind:

1) It sucks to visit because the home fans are aggressive towards visitors. I believe we treat visitors very well in Ann Arbor and find places like Madison and Columbus difficult because of the shit people will do to you. People have gotten in my face and physical with me while at those games. No, I'm not instigating unless you call wearing a block M instigating.

2) Noise in the stadium. Camp Randall is louder and consistently loud. Mich Stadium can be loud but I have not heard it consistently loud. We sure could amp it up inside.

3) Standing? meh, doesn't mean raucous to me. To those who say you need to stand to be loud - not really. I enjoy standing and jumping as much as the next person but I can cheer just as loud sitting down. A side problem with standing the whole game is that my 4 year old blossiming Michigan fan son cant see the game at all. I have a problem with this and will avoid the home sideline and area close to the student section because I expect standing in those areas. If you want to stand the whole game, you can do so in your living room.

4) Screw Cowherd.

jb5O4

September 8th, 2011 at 2:48 PM ^

I was in the front row at graduation in 2010 and it got pretty loud when President Obama took the field. If 85,000 can make alot of noise 114,000 should be able to.

SysMark

September 8th, 2011 at 3:02 PM ^

This is a tired old argument.  Noise is great and adds excitement, and can affect the visiting team in certain situations, but it isn't going to win this game for us.  We will win this games because we have better coaches and players, and our young players will be comfortable in the home environment.

Cowherd is as much a hack as the next one.

SpartyBlows

September 8th, 2011 at 3:50 PM ^

I usually only read the blog and never post. Just curious any word on a Maize Out for Saturday? I always wear maize to every game and so should everyone else that isn't in the student section.  Even if it is that terrible "off colored" maize really old people wear.  Thanks for the help.

NOLA Wolverine

September 8th, 2011 at 5:22 PM ^

After going to games at Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan State, Michigan has undoubtably one of the most apathetic crowds in the nation, and it starts and ends with the student section. But let's just keep peddling the "Oh well the stadium is outdoors so the noise ecapes" line, because Autzen stadium's extra 5 degrees of angling off of the fields plan e more than makes up for having 60,000 less people there. 

jsquigg

September 8th, 2011 at 6:28 PM ^

I'll take intelligible fans who know when to cheer over brainless, loud meatheads anyday.  No one complains about stadium noise when you're winning, so after this year hopefully that nonsense won't be brought up again.