Cole Huff down to Creighton and Iowa

Submitted by Raoul on

Looks like Beilein & Co. may be banking a scholarship for 2015 after all. From Cole Huff's former AAU coach:

Cole Huff is down to Creighton and Iowa where he is visiting tomorrow he will be making a decision following the visit #Eleate

— clint parks (@Brotherhood05) May 1, 2014

bballislife22

April 30th, 2014 at 8:44 PM ^

What happened? I thought he would fit in well, but I also can't say I'm disappointed about having another scholly for 2015. Seems like we're in on several good prospects, and could really use a 5 man.

reanimator

April 30th, 2014 at 8:51 PM ^

Max must be getting a fifth year? I don't see how we need more than 2 ships. 

Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk is deciding on college or pros by May 21. It would be dumb not to pursue. 

I just get the feeling that we will be here in Spring of 2015 with a 3rd scholarship or more taking "sleepers" who will be far below Huff or Sviat. We will see.  

Raoul

April 30th, 2014 at 8:59 PM ^

I'd like to see someone post a list of 2015 targets with a summary of where Michigan stands with each to see if the pickings are really as slim as you keep implying. There seemed to be good news, for example, on the Grandstaff front today:

alum96

April 30th, 2014 at 9:22 PM ^

Why so negative on prospects for the 2015 class?  It is April 2014 and you are saying in 12 months we will be stuck with 1 good players and the rest "sleepers"?  That's an eternity in college bball.  Right now there is plenty of time... and if you are a top notch 1, 2, and 5 you have a lot of potential playing time coming if you commit esp at the 2 and 5 (the 1 you will need to wait 12 months) - plus a great coaching staff especially for 1s and 2s.

I think getting Huff would have allowed Chatman to slide to 2 in 12 months to take over for LeVert so hence why this sort of sucks from my angle.  Then Wilson starts at 4, Huff at 3, with Dawkins backing up at 3, and Donnal getting 5 minutes a night at 4 when not playing the 5.  Also Chatman could do some 3/4 when MAAR is in the game - would have given us a lot of flexibility.  (above scenario assumes Irvin is in the NBA and not sliding down to 2 to take over for LeVert in 12 months).

Anyhow, onward.

alum96

April 30th, 2014 at 10:42 PM ^

Well at this stage we are going to have anywhere from 2-4 scholarships to 2 top 100 players and another in the 100-150 range is pretty par for the course.  Maybe we get 3 top 100s, Beilein deserves it with the track record he is building.  Just seems weird for people to be calling #80 or #105 or something a sleeper nowadays, we are spoiled.  If this was November 2014 and we had 0 kids in the class, ok that's the time to get worried but the next 6 months are prime time recruiting.

And I am not sure if the staff is up for it, but if we have 3 open scholarships next year and only 2 "top end" players come here, it might make a lot of sense to bank the 3rd since we are so damn young and the scholarships are so concentrated in so few classes.  In Spike's class he will be the only senior around so that will only be 1 opening that year yet again by natural causes (early entries aside).

Raoul

April 30th, 2014 at 9:04 PM ^

Here's a quote from the link in that Grandstaff tweet above:

"I'm hoping I can get them all in in May since school is almost out. If not I'll have to do it in the fall," Grandstaff told 247Sports.com. "I plan on taking those visits before I decide. I am still working on my fifth visit."

reanimator

April 30th, 2014 at 9:09 PM ^

Once again, I think its 100 % ceertain we'd get 1 of Coleman, Davis, McQuaid, Brunson, Grandstaff, Dozier, Bacon, etc but not 2, which was perfect with LeVert most likely leaving, 

I still think Sviat is something that should be pursued and he is better than ANY recruit we are after in 2015. 

If we do have 3 scholarships, I'm almost certain the third guy won't be as good as Huff and definitely not Sviat.

MichiganMan14

April 30th, 2014 at 8:55 PM ^

This will wind up being a good thing for us. Both Jalens and a PF are still possible. Huff...Wilson and Chatman would get quite crowded.

alum96

April 30th, 2014 at 9:12 PM ^

That's a bummer for me.  For those asking for a 5 star to replace Huff well most of those 5 stars are going to be at Michigan for 2 years before they go pro (FR/SO)so you get 2 years of a 5 star who has to start from scratch or you could get a guy like this who walks in from day 1with 2 years of NCAA experience and no learning curve having redshirted an entire year and is a proven commodity who shoots 40% from the 3...and you get his JR/SR years.

And you don't send Jordan out there to speak to him face to face if you are not interested so the "Beilein must have cooled on him" idea makes no sense to happen within a span of 5 days ....esp when their camp said they are basically waiting on the McGary decision on whether to push on Huff. 

This also puts the onus on Dawkins to be a serious player and not a backup piece for 5-10 minutes/game 2 years from now.  Going to need 20 min or so out of him.

That said, I do hope this scholarship now goes to a 5 in 2015.... and it helps balance the scholarships out a bit more from year to year - 6 in 1 season is egregious.

Raoul

April 30th, 2014 at 9:25 PM ^

And you don't send Jordan out there to speak to him face to face if you are not interested . . .

Of course, they had some level of interest. But coaches go out to visit players all the time face to face—and many of those players don't end up getting pursued any further.

Jordan visited Huff as part of the staff's vetting process. It's entirely possible that after completing their initial vetting, they decided not to pursue him.

alum96

April 30th, 2014 at 10:47 PM ^

Normally true but considering Huff's dad said they are waiting on Mitch's decision for MIchigan to - or not - move forward, that would mean he totally misunderstood Jordan's comments to him at their meeting.  And Jordan is a very well spoken man so I doubt that to be true.

While hard to conceive, there are kids in this world who woull turn down Michigan - not every kid we miss on is because "Beilein cooled on him".  This was a serious target from all the smoke signals.   We'll never know I guess.

UMICH1606

May 1st, 2014 at 6:20 AM ^

Webb said on GBW the minute that Dawkins pledged that they would more than likely punt on Huff now in favor of class balance( having available scholarships for 15). My guess would be is that Huff would have been more of an option if Dawkins went to Dayton.

LSAClassOf2000

April 30th, 2014 at 9:06 PM ^

I am going to assume for the moment that this development means we are likely through with 2014 recruiting in basketball - this is just a guess, of course. At any rate, it is not a bad class at all without Huff, so we've done well for ourselves really. Banking a scholarship probably is the better move at this point given what the projected attrition might be. 

I will say, it is nice to have the problems that Michigan does when it comes to hoops recruiting now. 

AlwaysBlue

April 30th, 2014 at 9:06 PM ^

he recruits, maybe Huff didn't make the grade. I would think that a player who decides to transfer because he doesn't like how he's being used might be a concern for a staff that likes interchangeable parts. Or maybe Huff ruled out Michigan for the same reasons. I don't consider this a big loss.

ThadMattasagoblin

April 30th, 2014 at 9:34 PM ^

I'm not sure why our athletic department is so allergic to transfers. I can't remember the last transfer we've had in the big 4 football, basketball, hockey, and baseball. It puts us at a disadvantage.

reanimator

May 1st, 2014 at 9:52 AM ^

Except it isn't true and "umich" has a nasty habit of following me around and throwing tantrums because he disagrees like some creepy stalker.

 

You too can have an opinion and no we won't change each others but at least bring up to date information to back your opinion!

reanimator

May 1st, 2014 at 10:17 AM ^

I'm arrogant and elitist and I do not apologize. If more people were confident in their opinions than it wouldn't rub people the wrong way. I also source and provide info for any line of thought that I present and "haters" often can't even meet me halfway. 

 

ps im only banned from 1 board and it is because "stalkers" love to initiate conflict but wilt when it is thrown back.