Coaching Insider talks Michigan (and other jobs)

Submitted by mgoBrad on

Many of you who follow CFB closely, espicially on Twitter, will be familiar with FootballScoop. The guys who run the website and Twitter feed are coaching insiders who are on close terms with a majority of the D1 football coaching community, as well as much of the lower levels. I believe they were the ones that broke the Nussmeier news last January as well. All this to establish who they are for those that don't know, and their level of credibility... Because what I just heard their editor-in-chief say on ESPN radio was fairly shocking. Here's the relevant tweet:

I went on @1045espn this AM. Have a listen. Topics include SMU/Mack, Orgeron, possibility of Florida & Michigan, etc http://t.co/JSCVQZAZwh

— FootballScoop Staff (@FootballScoop) October 30, 2014

Fast forward to about 10 minutes in to hear about the Florida job, and 13 minutes in to hear about Michigan. The money quote: "I talked to three guys [presumably connected to the Michigan program] and there is complete belief... not just some question, but complete belief that Dave Brandon does not survive this." Great news, right? But not exactly earth-shattering. That part comes next: "I heard a very interesting name for the next AD... Joe Castiglione, the AD at Oklahoma."

Again, this is not some ESPN radio guy just spouting off whatever names that come to mind, this is an actual insider who has heard enough scuttlebutt to think Castiglione may be a guy Michigan looks at. Also, nice to hear further confirmation from an outside source that it appears Brandon is going to be out the door.

Thoughts? Also interesting to note that Rich Rod seems to be the leading candidate for Florida with Spurrier (!?!) as the dark horse.

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charblue.

October 30th, 2014 at 4:23 PM ^

is still worth only what salivates your desire and intrigue for possibility without moving us closer to any truth in reality.

However, the mention of the Oklahoma AD as a possible candidate to replace a doomed Brandon clearly opens up the field of possible coaching candidates, and that is intriuging in a way that Harbaugh and Mullen as No. 1 and 2 on everyone's list and clearly with plenty of options and more likely to pass as accept the job here, makes the possible reach for others with an AD having a wider range and reach for plausible candidates starting with the Stoops family, a more interesting proposition.

21-194-13

October 30th, 2014 at 5:00 PM ^

Bob Stoops would be a slam dunk hire...

Born in Youngstown, played at Iowa.

10-6 vs Texas.

Has won eight Big 12 Championships and all the BCS Bowl games.

OU has finished in the Top 10 of the polls for 9 out of 10 seasons, 6 of of those 9 being in the Top 5.

OU's 2008 team went down in the history books as the highest scoring team in college football history, scoring a total of 716 points, averaging 51 points per game.

bighouse22

October 30th, 2014 at 8:31 PM ^

I have heard the argument that why would someone want to coach college over the NFL.  Honestly the great College Coaches seem to be more revered than the NFL coaches.  College Coaches have buildings on campus named after them, statues erected in their honor and we still know their names to this day.

Think Rockney, Crisler, Yost, Woody, Bo, etc.  I think they leave a greater legacy than NFL coaches.

FrankMurphy

October 30th, 2014 at 5:29 PM ^

Florida is a destination job, unlike Kansas State. They don't need to hire a retread. Also, Spurrier has had a decent run at South Carolina, but his stock isn't quite as high as it was when he was at Florida. As you note, Snyder came out of retirement for his second stint at KSU and his stock was still intact.

JamieH

October 30th, 2014 at 5:32 PM ^

I'm not sure I'd call Spurrier a retread.  He left Florida on his own terms, coming off of a 10-2 season where he won the Orange Bowl and finished #3 in the country.

 

His last 3 seasons at South Carolina have all been 11-2 with a bowl win and finishing in the top 10, finishing #4 last year.  And this is at South Carolina, where they had had two seasons of 8+ wins in the 16 years prior to his arrival.  How exactly is his stock tarnished?  Because he's 4-4 this year?  Shoot, you have 3 straight 11-2 seasons at South Carolina and people get down on you for one mediocre season?  At South Carolina???

 

Yeah, he's old, but outside of that, the guy can obviously still coach. 

bighouse22

October 30th, 2014 at 8:24 PM ^

Right there you have two coaches who have been around a long time, why discount Miles for the job based on age.  I can understand some may have other reservations, but I think age is a red herring when it comes to Miles.

SalvatoreQuattro

October 30th, 2014 at 4:57 PM ^

The expectations there are nowhere near what they are at UF where he would be in the shadow of Spurrier and Meyer. The pressure would be intense.

Stay at Zona, Rich. Great weather, good school, and a chance to become Zona's legend instead of a successor to one.

alum96

October 30th, 2014 at 6:52 PM ^

If both teams can get by Utah the ASU-AZ game is going to potentially rival the Egg Bowl for intrigue.  Could have two 1 loss team vying to play Oregon and I think both of those squads can beat them (in fact AZ already did).  

It might also be a play in for the Florida job for the 2 coaches.

Don

October 30th, 2014 at 7:12 PM ^

100% agree. AZ is like WVU—not college football royalty, lesser expectations, not so many fans totally full of themselves about what their program is—whereas Florida would be like UM in terms of pressure and expectations. He can do goofy preseason western videos in Tucson and nobody cares. Not sure he could get away with that in Gainesville.

Lots of fans don't understand the lure of establishing your own place in the firmament at a place like Arizona or Mississippi State. Once upon a time, Penn State was a regional program with a nice reputation but nothing more, and then Paterno was elevated to HC. Same thing with Florida State; a regional program with no particular star power until Bowden was hired. I'm sure other blue-blood powers tried to hire Bowden away early in his FSU tenure, but he stayed and built it into what it is now.

bighouse22

October 30th, 2014 at 8:22 PM ^

I think you are wrong in this case.  I might agree with you if he had directly followed Meyer, just like he followed Carr.  But Florida has now failed with a replacement and RR would get the same level of good will that Hoke got initially.  Also, I don't think it takes him 4 years to turn it around this time because that program has talent closer to his strength unlike Michigan, which was build for power football.

SalvatoreQuattro

October 30th, 2014 at 6:05 PM ^

Just because you see that a guy as an Italian surname that does not mean it's okay to reference the Sopranos(Unless you are talking about Tony Sparano then it's okay), the Godfather, sleeping with fishes, Luca Brasi, Mafia, Cosa Nostra, and anything else having to do with organized crime. 

 

SalvatoreQuattro

October 30th, 2014 at 6:37 PM ^

Gerg Schiano never should have been associated with the Mafia either even in jest.

Would you make a reference to terrorism if you were talking about someone with an Arabic name?

I don't know the reference you are talking about, but I do believe that you did not mean to offend. What I'm upset about is the instinctive connecting of an Italian name with an criminal organization. If that makes me too sensitive and open to negging so be it. But  my ethnic heritage means a lot to me and associating it with criminality offends me. 

oriental andrew

October 30th, 2014 at 6:44 PM ^

I see you're very familiar with fictional and real Italian crime families. Are you in the mafia?

(feel free to make a triad or yakuza reference. Or ninjas, bruce lee, kung fu, shaolin monks, samurai, tae kwon do, k-pop, robotech, etc... and maybe how your cars are faster than ours, but ours are clearly more reliable)

eac6371

October 30th, 2014 at 5:12 PM ^

I think I'll pass on Ed Orgeron seeing how he was 10-25 at Ole Miss. That's even worse statistically than Brady's 5-11 since this time last year.

bighouse22

October 30th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^

That is classic Michigan.  More interested in taking care of their own than hiring a proven winner.  Programs are rarely successful when bringing in coaches from their tree to succeed a good coach.  One of the few exceptions was Lloyd Carr.

Outside Success:

Nick Saban at LSU, Alabama

Urban Meyer at Florida

Pete Carroll at USC

Les Miles at LSU

Mullen at Miss St

Maybe the bigger point is that rarely does the successor of a good coach find the same level of success.

Mary Markley Hall

October 30th, 2014 at 5:25 PM ^

I don't have enough points to create a thread but I think this article is really poignant: Horned and Dangerous: How Defensive Guru Gary Patterson Built College Football’s Most Prolific Offense at TCU

This is pretty much the polar opposite of the Hoke regime and ultimatley will be his death knell. This in particular really stuck out:

  • "With no bowl game on the horizon, Patterson immediately went about overhauling his offensive coaching staff, beginning with demotions for co-offensive coordinators Jarrett Anderson (now the offensive line coach) and Rusty Burns (now in charge of outside receivers). For their replacements, Patterson looked to a pair of in-state rivals for assistants with roots in the Air Raid: Doug Meacham, who had just spent his first season as the primary play-caller at Houston after eight years on Mike Gundy’s staff at Oklahoma State, and Sonny Cumbie, a Texas Tech assistant who, as the Red Raiders’ starting quarterback in 2004, had engineered a 70-35 blowout over Patterson’s team....Patterson, the old defensive hand, was all in on a system that placed little or no value on establishing the run, winning time of possession, or occasionally easing up on the throttle for the sake of the defense. “I think people are just in shock that I let them do it,” Patterson said last week, before the outburst against Texas Tech. “That’s all I heard: ‘No way he’s going to let them do it.’”

Anyways, just thought I would share this article since I think it is a great case study on how to make the shift after running a certain system that is no longer working. 

alum96

October 30th, 2014 at 6:56 PM ^

Thanks.  I saw similar stuff earlier on Patterson in my research on him.  It will blow the minds of all those who say "we need to have a coach who does this style or else none of our players would fit.  Patterson recruited one type of offensive player his whole career, and in 1 offseason blew it up and went Air Raid.  And there was no trepidation about "can't do it since I didnt recruit to it!" 

That said he has zero reason to leave TCU.  He is in a power 5 conference with no powerhouse blocking him like Miles or Mullen face in the SEC West.  Plus there have been natural fits for him in the past (i.e. Texas job) and he is basically not interested.  A bummer.  Major defensive guru.

bighouse22

October 30th, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^

I personally love the thought of either Patterson or Mullen.  These guys do not appeared married to any one system and have done some fantastic things at lower tier programs in Power 5 conferences.  

I think the biggest mistake a coach can make is being to married to one way of doing things.  The game is constantly changing and you need to change with it.  

We are seeing what happens when you become to married to an archaic approach.

I also like the outside candidates if Harbaugh and Miles are ruled out.