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January 1st, 2013 at 10:42 PM | Lewan was already gone (Score:3 Normal)
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Both players only helped themselves today. I'd give it a push.  Taylor was solid all day minus the 2 penalties and Clowney made big plays when it mattered most.  

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January 1st, 2013 at 11:37 PM | If he gets drafted by the (Score:2 Normal)
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If he gets drafted by the Vikings, holding doesnt apply /s /notbiasedatall

Formerly known as PahokeePahokee

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January 1st, 2013 at 10:54 PM | They did show some brief (Score:1)
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They did show some brief matchups of Lewan and Clowney and they did mention that Lewan was holding his own and keeping Clowney in check.  But then he had the one big hit and immediately everyone forgot how up to that point he was a nonfactor.

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January 1st, 2013 at 10:57 PM | Props to Schofield as well. (Score:0 Flamebait)
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Props to Schofield as well. He did a great job while he was matched up with Clowney when Lewan went out. BUT ... I'm not sure what the issue was early in the game, but they were getting a ton of pressure on the right side.

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January 1st, 2013 at 10:58 PM | Clowney is good, but he's no (Score:5 Normal)
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Clowney is good, but he's no Tom Gholston.



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January 1st, 2013 at 11:37 PM | Play should have been dead (Score:-1 Overrated)
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Isn't the play ruled dead as soon as the helmet comes off? In that case, he shouldn't have had a forced/recovered fumble. And it is still michigan ball. Is that not right?

What is the definition of insantity? Living in SEC country!

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January 1st, 2013 at 11:54 PM | Give it up man, it was a (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Give it up man, it was a great play. Give credit where credit is due.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:02 AM | No doubt it was a great hit. (Score:5 Normal)
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No doubt it was a great hit. But here's a different perspective: Clowney is 6'6" and weighs 260. Vincent Smith is 5'6" and weighs 175-ish. How many 5'6" guys get up after that hit? Vincent Smith: toughest guy on the field. 

There's a time and a place for spontaneity. 

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January 2nd, 2013 at 10:40 AM | Glad you posted this.  He got (Score:2)
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Glad you posted this.  He got up as if it was a normal tackle.  Sure, sometimes you get popped, it's football.  I can't believe the assignment was missed that bad.

Touchdown Michigan!

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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:44 AM | Al Borges (Score:2 Normal)
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Deserves a ton of credit in keeping the defense at bay. Could have been much worse if he dipped into the Alabama play book. Happy he kept it diverse. Felt he called a solid game and execution on some simple passing plays (and several big plays d gave up of course) killed us.

Be the change, I want you to be.
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January 1st, 2013 at 11:57 PM | Was a great play by a great (Score:1)
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Was a great play by a great player

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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:03 AM | I thought the same thing (Score:1)
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I thought the same thing, but I think the ball was out at the same time the helmet came off. The helmet just moved quicker. 6'7'' 270 full sprint on 5'6'' 165 hesitantly attempting to run a westside dive. Just a great defensive play.

“A Michigan man will coach Michigan.” - Bo Schembechler
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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:12 AM | Don't think it was a game changer (Score:1 Overrated)
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But really karma for the bad call by the refs saying we had a first down. Great hit, but should not have been player of the game. At all

What is the definition of insantity? Living in SEC country!

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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:12 AM | Don't think it was a game changer (Score:1 Redundant)
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But really karma for the bad call by the refs saying we had a first down. Great hit, but should not have been player of the game. At all

What is the definition of insantity? Living in SEC country!

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January 2nd, 2013 at 1:12 AM | Everybody will remember the (Score:2 Normal)
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Everybody will remember the Clowney hit on Smith, but what about the Smith hit on Clowney? Smith went full out 3 Ninjas "Light up the eyes Rocky" on him. Smith didn't need help getting off the field like Clowney did when Smith gave him a good old helmet to the dong. Vince got in a swing or two in the fight, lol.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 1:45 AM | I watched probably 5 (Score:3 Normal)
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full South Carolina games this fall and Clowney was pretty much as he was all year.  He was a factor most plays either in busting one up or the offense staying away from him.  I thought did an excellent job on him compared to most tackels in the SEC games I watched.  But he has strangely long stretches where he does nothing, sits on the sidelines looking tired.

Then the 4th Q comes and he makes 2 or 3 plays you've never F'ing seen before in your life and you suddenly think you've just seen the best damn defensive linemen to ever play  the game.

 

 

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January 2nd, 2013 at 3:14 AM | That's a pretty good (Score:1)
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That's a pretty good summation of Clowney. He reminds me of Julius Peppers. He doesn't have a high motor like Jared Allen types, and he doesn't have speed moves like Dwight Freeny types. However, he has the ability to make plays that no other players can, like Peppers. Guys like that draw so much attention from offensive gameplans, that their numbers don't reflect their true impact on the game (even when the numbers are good). Like Gruden said, Clowney might have 25 sacks, but he's probably forced 25+ holding calls as well. Not to mention his ability to stretch out run plays, options, and screens with his length and ability to move laterally.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 8:59 AM | I just got home from work, (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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I just got home from work, watched the game on dvr, saw the hit by Clowney and thought one thing. WTF Borges? Clowney is stupid athletic and talented and Borges decided part of the game plan was to allow him to be unblocked mulitple times. When Lewan was assingned to block the guy across from him, that guy was blocked 99% of the time. And when you can say Clowney is just that guy being blocked, you block him every play. Once again our OC was the reason we lost the game. /end rant/continue drinking.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 9:01 AM | Overall, he called a very (Score:1 Normal)
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Overall, he called a very good game. "experts" such as yourself make us all look bad.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 9:14 AM | I actually think Borges (Score:0 Overrated)
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I actually think Borges called a good game, and who ever called me an "expert"? But to let Clowney be unblocked is just a bad idea. He is too athletic to get much of anything done when he can run anywhere be wants. This loss is on that play and Clowney being able to run free happened more than that one play. It was part of the game plan and it was a poor part of the game plan.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 10:11 AM | So now (Score:1 Normal)
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You're the expert? Got it.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 9:25 AM | Not how blocking assignments work (Score:3 Normal)
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Giving Clowney a free run on handoffs was not, surprisingly enough, part of Borges's game plan. As described illuminatingly in the Borges thread, the Clowney hit resulted from a miscommunication between Lewan and Kwiatkowski -- Kwiatkowski thought he and Lewan were going to be doubling Clowney, Lewan blocked down instead, and Clowney took advantage of the mix-up to decapitate Smith, exacting revenge for the earlier dong headbutt. Lewan actually describes this error in a post-game interview (again illuminatingly linked to in the Borges thread).

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January 3rd, 2013 at 2:26 AM | Thanks for the recap. My game (Score:1)
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Thanks for the recap. My game plan comment was a knee jerk reaction to seeing Clowney running unblocked a few times during the game and the fact that one huge play lost the game. Lewan killed it this game, this whole year for that matter. I really believe that Borges will be a damn good OC when he has players he knows what to do with. Its just that he didn't know how to get the best out of Denard, which I really can't blame him for, Denard is a once in a lifetime type of QB. I have said many times that I will reserve my judgement on Borges until Shane Morris' second year starting.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 10:05 AM | What if I told you Lewan was (Score:1)
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What if I told you Lewan was staying?

In Hoke we trust...

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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:59 AM | Nothing against Vince (Score:1)
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Nothing against Vince Smith, he took that hit like a champ considering he was outweighed by  almost 70 pounds and a foot of height and didn't show a bit for wear from it but...I can't wait until Clowney tries that against Green.  Here's to looking forward to the day we roll out a power front combo like LTT/Magnuson/Kalis/Kulger/Dawson/Fox/Bosch and push guys like Clowney 5 yards back off the ball.

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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:29 PM | To me ESPN gave Clowney (Score:1 Normal)
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the MVP before he supposedly earned it. I am sure there are several Michigan defenders who were more deserving than him, at least statistically wise." South Carolina Deserves to have it and they do" WTF. They won it with 11 sec. on the clock. Congradulations you beat a good but not great UM team. For me, next year can't get here fast enough I know the loss of Denard is sad but the promise and potential of new recruits is really exciting. Bring on spring practice and as always GO BLUE!. 

"I am excited to be with Brady and I am excited about where this program is headed"           D C  Coach Mattison

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January 2nd, 2013 at 1:19 PM | ESPN (Score:1)
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have become SEC marketing schills

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