Cleanest/Dirtiest Programs in the Country
I'd like to see what the mgoblog community thinks are, historically or currently, the cleanest/dirtiest (semi-competitive, no western kentucky or north texas) programs in the country. As recently as a week ago I would have put Penn State in the top 10 cleanest, but now, are they one of the dirtiest?
Cleanest
Air Force
Army
Navy (obviously for all 3)
Stanford
Michigan
Northwestern
Boston College
Notre Dame
Penn State kindof
Nebraska?
Dirtiest
LSU
Alabama
Auburn
Florida State
The U
ohio
USC
SMU (obligatory)
michigan state
UNC
November 7th, 2011 at 11:41 PM ^
I think CU should be on the "dirtiest" list. The sexual harassment scandal under Gary Barnett was arguably the worst non-improper benefits scandal in college football until the recent allegations at Penn State.
November 8th, 2011 at 6:12 AM ^
November 7th, 2011 at 11:43 PM ^
I had a big SFU Bulls booster drunkenly brag to me about the $ they had raised to pay off players.
A cynical person could also combine that with the B. J. Daniels/Michigan recruiting incident rumor.
TTFWIW
November 8th, 2011 at 12:37 AM ^
UNC isn't dirty. Not one of the allegations relating to UNC's case involve the University trying to gain a competitive advantage. Given how the Chancellor and AD acted, if there was anything of that sort going on, we'd all know about it.
There was a whole bunch of ish going down with our most talented players, an assistant coach who was a bit too cozy with an agent (no evidence of wrongdoing) and a tutor who gave improper assistance (while chasing jerseys) but UNC, the Athletic Department, and Butch Davis did nothing that could be described as cheating.
November 8th, 2011 at 1:12 AM ^
is that we have NO idea what goes on behind closed doors.
November 8th, 2011 at 1:15 AM ^
Does anyone really know? I mean, after the events of the past few days I do not think you can really call a program clean. For all we know the "clean" programs today can be dirty tomorrow. In light of all that has recently happened it seems sily to even try to categorize anyone. To me, every school is just unknown until proven guilty. I am not sure how you categorize a school as "clean". Penn State sure seemed like the definition of clean last month..
November 8th, 2011 at 2:28 AM ^
Michigan State cut ties with their booster club because they found a hint of impropriety.
They're vulnerable now to something going on because they're a dedicated "keep it in-house" bunch and that lack of transparency tends to have bad results.
But that's a long, long way from being a "dirty" program as a whole. The football coach is genuinely a bad dude but that's really about it. The AD runs a pretty clean house.
November 8th, 2011 at 4:53 AM ^
Here's a basic guide:
Teams that have been good the last 6 years=dirty programs
Teams that have sucked the last 6 years=clean programs
Hate to say it, but it's the truth. The way the NCAA is set up right now you have to cheat to win. The teams that do cheat, even if they're caught red handed (OSU, USC, Miami, etc) the punishment doesnt out weigh what they gained. Sad but very very true.
November 8th, 2011 at 6:10 AM ^
People who don't see arbitrariness in lists like these are the same ones who believe that RichRod and Brady lost to MSU because they didn't "understand the rivalry."
November 8th, 2011 at 9:36 AM ^
Hokies are clean and always in the BCS bowl mix
November 8th, 2011 at 10:04 AM ^
Based on what criteria? This is nonsense!
November 8th, 2011 at 10:36 AM ^
Alabama, Oklahoma, Auburn, Arizona St, SMU, Miami, Texas A&M, Florida St....these programs have worked long and hard at cheating, not just recently but sustained their effort over the years, per NCAA.
For details, try:
http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/10255471
or
November 8th, 2011 at 11:05 AM ^
One serious omission from every nomination so far: BYU.
November 8th, 2011 at 11:22 AM ^
Isn't the ncaa looking into possible recruiting violations with Oregon that stem from some scout getting paid to steer players to Eugene?