On mgovideo, the classic games from 2004 and 1997 were posted from mgoblue website. I also saw this week that 2007 and 2005 road wins were available as well? These videos have the radio broadcast as well tied to them. Anyway these may be posted on mgovideo for state week get us more pumped for tomorrow?
Classic Michigan/State games?
Also, anyone know of any really good hype videos for this game?
Here's the one I made for this season. It has an MSU focus in parts.
This playlist should fix you up real good.
This is why it is a very good thing to have the work of Wolverine Historian restored and available to this blog (as well as the Internet at large). I may very well watch some of these at down times during storm work this afternoon. Actually, in scanning the list, it has the second game my parents ever took me to see - the 1986 Michigan-Michigan State game.
At the time it was MSU's first win over Michigan in 9 years (1969).
Michigan lost the '78 game to MSU 15-24, but that UM team won the Big Ten title and was probably one of Bo's finest veteran teams of the 1970s.
MSU won a share of the Big Ten title though at 8-3, because they lost to Purdue in their season opener.
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Then on the 100 year anniversary, 49-3 Michigan.
The best game the two ever played was probably the 1990 game with the controversial no-call on Desmond Howard at the end. One of the few times in history when both schools had good teams, Michigan ranked #1 despite already having one loss, crazy back and forth game, Desmond Howard AND Derrick Alexander on the same team making plays, etc.
I remember watching that game as a kid and was positive Michigan was going to come back to win it. That no-call to me was far worse than the 2001 game. In 2001, I've watched the replay of the clock countdown and you can seem some ambiguity there, not to mention the fact that Michigan's D did so much dumb shit on the final MSU drive that they basically deserved to lose that game. The 1990 game was so much more heartbreaking because:
a. Michigan had a legitimate chance to win the NC that year
b. MSU was actually a good team that year
c. IT WAS INTERFERENCE DAMNIT!!!! (not that I'm still holding a grudge about it or anything)
Hopefully we don't see a similar outcome tomorrow or else I may lose my mind.
It was one of the few times that I sat close enough to the tunnel, to be able to yell at people when they went through.
When that game ended, all I can remember is yelling at the refs like a madman. I don't even remember what I was saying, to be honest. Whatever it was, I know it had to be obscene, and enraged; so much so that I remember one of them looking up at me in fear like I was going to shoot him. Fortunately for both of us, I wasn't armed. If the Stadium had been empty, I would have run up the aisle, out the portal and down the steps to continue to yell at them when they made their escape in the white van that always takes them away under state police escort. I wanted to HURT that crew.
We got a badass ovr here
I don't think SectionOne was trying to come off as a hardass. We all know how emotional we fans can get over this game. I remember wanting to physically hurt Spartan Bob after the '01 game. I can't imagine being at the '90 game sitting next the tunnel, especially when Michigan was ranked #1. I probably would have said some things to refs I didn't know I could say either
I was there in EL for that one too.
While they were running the second-to-last play in that game, I was yelling with glee; "That's it! There's no time for another play!" And then, "Run the clock! Start the clock! Where's the clock?"
I know that some people think that that was a reasonable stoppage. That it was a close call, and not outlandish.
That's wrong. It was outlandish. I've heard the Frank Beckmann call of that game after the fact. Frank was exactly right. He called it "criminal" in the heat of the moment. I don't think he is prone to that sort of language. It was extreme; he meant it to be extreme. It was an outrage. It was not close. It was manipulation of the worst kind. Deliberate, and clearly so.
I have seen some people, years later, having seen some video recording in which Beckmann's voice-audio is used over the television video. And the comment from some of those people is that Beckmann was counting down "ahead' of the clock. That is all preposterous. The chicanery that would go into cutting an unrelated audio track and pasting onto a video recording is beyond bizarre. It is so nonsensical that it doesn't merit serious discussion.
In both cases -- 1990 and 2001 -- the Conference knew perfectly well what the abominations were.
to add to that misery, on the last play when Duckett caught the pass, there was a CLEAR hold on MSU that they (obviously) didn't call. Now I know that they usually don't call holds on the last play but this was one of the most obvious holding calls ever. I am always suprised that nobody usually knows what I am talking about when i mention it but that 's obviously because it gets overshadowed
That was my freshman year and I was sitting in that end zone. I remember looking for the flag after the play with a growing sense of horror and incredulity. One of the more egregious screw jobs, in my opinion.
... I thought it was a catch. A TD, even with the rather obvious interference.
because it was a 2 point conversion try after the TD, but I get what you're saying. That was just awful, awful officiating. Maybe the fact that 2001 was the Year of Really Bad John Navarre is what keeps me from being bothered too much in hindsight by the Clock Game. Or maybe it's the fact that we then beat Little Brother 6 years straight after it. But there's just something about the 1990 game that means far more to me than the 2001 game. I'm over 2001, still not over 1990.
I remember I actually ran around the room because I thought Desmond caught the ball. It took me a couple replays to see that he was actually tripped. I won tix to the Rose Bowl that year in a lottery, right after that game. I was sick on so many levels because of that game.
It's funny that people forget we recovered the onside kick on the ensuing kickoff. We still had a chance, albeit slim.
Conversion, right. My bad; thinking of a completion in the endzone as a "touchdown." The correction is appreciated.
Nasty part of that day was that we were Number One in both polls. And as usual, Sparty was unranked and promptly lost the following week. It was a weird upset year in college football. We had climbed to #1 in the country within a few weeks of losing a close game in South Bend to Notre Dame, which took over #1 until they lost to Stanford the week before UM-MSU.
This is why we play the games. Shit happens.
paid for those slights. Chad Henne brought Michigan back time and again to beat Sparty in the closing moments. Touchdown Manningham was just as joyful against Penn State as it was against MSU. And the Braylon Megatron performance to erase Sparty's comfortable fourth quarter edge on Halloween night at Michigan Stadium is still an underated performance for the ages.
You know, nobody says anything about it, but the fact that Lloyd sent Saban packing from MSU screwed Sparty for years. And the move just cemented what everyone thought at the time. I think that's the only time when Saban actually went looking to improve his own situation and jumped at the chance. He knew that recruiting against Michigan was a losing proposition, which it is for Dantonio.
The irony is that Dantonio was on Saban's staff then. But Dantonio would never make his mark against Carr, it would be his mentor, Jim Tressel, who would chip away at LC and ruin his domination over Ohio and the 2006 season which featured a major Sparty beatdown. LC has his way with Sparty and he forced Saban out, that is his legacy of greatness.
Saban was 2-3 against him, which was good enough to be considered a winning record in East Lansing.
He left because we were the top dog in the state and he was good enough to go somewhere else where he wouldn't have that same in-state competition. He bought low, sold high, and got a real payday. Only coach LC helped force out was John Cooper. And I would have sacrificed a win against OSU if it meant five more years of him and we never see Tressel on the sidelines.
the game that has stayed with me the longest was the first one I ever saw, at home in 1978. MSU was good that year, but we had beaten them 7 in a row previously, and were 4-0 going in. The day was just ugly - senior Rick Leach was off rythym, we were never able to get on track. My memory is of a desperate Leach dodging defenders and throwing picks...and walking out to a grayer, colder day after it was all over. I was so happy to see us win the next two years, but the lesson was to never be too overconfident going into what seems to be an easy situation.
Now, optimistic? That's a different story -- Go Blue!