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Chris Petersen to Washington
December 6th, 2013 at 9:27 AM
#1
Chris Petersen to Washington
No, really, I'm serious. He's actually leaving Boise.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:30 AM
#2
Should have gone when he was
Should have gone when he was a hotter property and could have had a better job.
So long, Fraud State. Nice knowing you and your bogus claims of elite status.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:48 AM
#3
Fraud State? A 92-12 record
Fraud State? A 92-12 record in 8 seasons under Peterson? 6 top 25 finishes and 11 win+ seasons? 5 bowl wins? Are we looking at different teams?
December 6th, 2013 at 9:52 AM
#4
all vs. a strength of
all vs. a strength of schedule that rivals the Big Ten!
December 6th, 2013 at 10:32 AM
#5
...or the Big12 ...or the
...or the Big12 ...or the ACC. I'm making my "Section 1" stand here against people who are badmouthing the Big10. Statistically, both the ACC and Big12 are worse conferences this year, and the SEC is only marginally better. The PAC12 is a lot better, though.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:43 AM
#6
To be fair, TCU looked like
To be fair, TCU looked like beasts in that conference too. Since moving to the Big 12 they've gone 11-14.
December 6th, 2013 at 3:41 PM
#7
See also Utah
and their move from the Mountain West to Pac-12.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:47 PM
#8
Media hype
BSU played one or two legitimate teams a year and 10-11 tomato cans. Petersen is a very good coach, but he has to prove that he can get these kind of results against legitimate, elite competition on a regular basis. I think this move makes sense for both sides and both sides could benefit.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:53 AM
#9
Fraud State?
You clearly have some insecurities.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:55 AM
#10
Yeah, it's not even a clever
Yeah, it's not even a clever play on words
December 6th, 2013 at 11:17 AM
#11
Agreed
Something like "Bogus State" or " Potato mashers" would have been better. Not any more true, just more clever.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:23 PM
#12
Lousy State woulda been
Lousy State woulda been pretty good, too.
December 6th, 2013 at 4:58 PM
#13
How about "Boy-Sea State."
How about "Boy-Sea State." They played their games with a veritable sea of boys rather than men, thus making them an inferior program. MARVIN NAILED IT!
December 6th, 2013 at 10:10 AM
#14
I would
have to say that Washington is a pretty good job. Awesome part of the country, tremendous potential and a history of semi-recent success without the expectations of other top level jobs. Now that that program has returned to being a high level Pac 12 team I think a lot of coaches would eat that job up if offered.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:07 AM
#15
He had plenty of opportunities too
The whole leaving sooner thing is a load of bunk. Petersen has been at the top of every job opening for the last 5+ years. And did people forget he just turned down USC?
December 6th, 2013 at 11:20 AM
#16
No doubt.
I've always been a big fan of Peterson and have secretly wished he'd come to Michigan for several years now. I'm also sad to see him leave Boise St. though. I loved what he did with that program and he seems like he is a man of character. It was refreshing to see someone with that kind of success, buck the trend of greed and cut-throat ambition in college football.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:16 AM
#17
Great hire
Great hire for Washington.
This blows my mind. He turns down SEC jobs, Penn State, Ohio State, UCLA, USC, but says yes to Washington? Unreal.
Regardless, he is a great coach and Huskie fans should be thrilled. I'm always happy to see Washington get a leg up on Leach and Washington State, so good for them.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:25 AM
#18
maybe he likes that part of
maybe he likes that part of the country b/c of family or other reasons. That can be a pretty big factor to a lot of people.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:40 AM
#19
Yeah, he just doesn't seem
Yeah, he just doesn't seem like your typical coach where ambitions to be at the best schools with the most money is the driving force in his decision.
Washington makes sense for a guy like Chris Petersen. He's not stepping into a huge pressure cooker in a part of the country he doesn't know. Rather, he's upgrading to a football school in the same region of the country where he'll be utilizing the recruiting connections he's built up for his entire coaching career. I very much see the draw.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:18 AM
#20
Might be because he sees that
Might be because he sees that his stock and Boise State's stock is falling. They've fallen off the national radar ever since Kellen Moore graduated and I think before Petersen might've thought he had a good thing going, but now if he sees the Boise State ship sinking, he might be thinking it's time to get out of Dodge while he still can. This might be the end of Boise's run of national significance
December 6th, 2013 at 11:21 AM
#21
recruiting?
I am not familar with BSU recruiting, but it seems to me that it may be important to him to stay in the Norhtwest if that is where his best recuiting ties are. It might be easier for him to pull in recruits at UW that at an SEC school. USC might just be a little bit toxic give the damage done by Kiffin and not keeping Orgeron (and Orgeron's decision to quit rather than coach the bowl).
Admittedly, this is kind of pulled out of the air since I just can't tolerate watching BSU on that damn blue field.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:53 AM
#22
It's a great job for him.
It's a great job for him. He'll come in as a rock star. He'll be paid extremely well. The cost of living there is much much better than at USC. The expectations are reasonable. The fan base won't be calling for his head after 2 1/2 years. He will have an opportunity to create a long-term legacy there if he chooses to do it, much like Don James did.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:58 PM
#23
Don James...
... was a great coach for UW. And he was an assistant at Michigan before that, under Bump Elliot. This is s great hire for UW.
December 6th, 2013 at 2:32 PM
#24
Agreed
Agree with all you say.
I just thought that it might also be a smart move for him as my hypothesis was that he will closer to his recruting base than going to SEC or even USC. Howeva, looking at his BSU's roster, I counted 37 kids from Cali, against 29 from Idaho, Washington, Oregon and Montana combined. So, yeah, I'm wrong.
December 6th, 2013 at 5:39 PM
#25
It is important to look at
It is important to look at where in Cali they are from. It's a huge state and recruiting in the southern part is very different than the northern part.
December 6th, 2013 at 5:47 PM
#26
Not really, in terms of
Not really, in terms of football recruiting. Both northern CA and SoCal have tons of talent, and it varies year to year who has more (not to mention parts of central CA like Fresno and Bakersfield representing well).
December 6th, 2013 at 6:52 PM
#27
Well more right than wrong
He's still close to his recruting base, relative to an SEC job.
Regardless of recruiting, he also knows the northwest region really well. He must hear stories of friends that travel all over the northwest for fishing, hiking, family, and he has probably vacationed, traveled, and visited a bunch of areas as well.
So when a recruit in every-day-speak says he's going to visit his Grandma for Christmas in Gleed, just up the road from Yakima on the "12", Peterson would probably already know where this is, approximately, and share immediately commonality with the kid, talking about how he's heard the fishing is good around there, etc. Hit the ground running without having to learn everything anew culturally and geographically.
I agree with other posters that this is also a lower stress opportunity for a solid team in a high-end conference. He will have the opportunity to grow the program to his liking without as many angry fans making noise (a la USC).
I'm really surprised he left, but perhaps the best opportunity for his personality type and past experience.
December 6th, 2013 at 3:07 PM
#28
Boise recruiting
Living in Southern California, I know that Boise's taken some smaller school kids from here, perhaps for depth, perhaps hoping to develop with a redshirt year. They just took a kid from the local high school as a preferred walk-on at kicker.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:53 PM
#29
Petersen seems like the kind of guy who would
Petersen seems like the kind of guy who would prioritize a better fit over a bigger name. From a family perspective, going from Boise to Los Angeles would have been a much more dramatic shift than going from Boise to Seattle. This actually seems like the ideal situation for him.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:55 PM
#30
Seattle...
Good move for Petersen and a great hire for UW. He knows the area for recruiting and he has a child in need of medical care available at UW's and Seattle's medical centers. I think this may have been a motivating factor. Seattle will welcome Petersen.
December 6th, 2013 at 3:30 PM
#31
Maybe he didn't want to come
Maybe he didn't want to come into a program that was falling apart. Washington didnt just fire it's coach for incompetence or lose him after sanctions and scandal. Their coach left to take a better job but left the program in a great place. I'd much rather inherit Washington's current program than what Rich Rod left or the PSU situation or the Lane Kiffin mess, etc..
December 6th, 2013 at 10:55 AM
#32
I admire him
For staying where he wanted to be, and taking the job he wanted. Clearly he has a value system that he is following, and it likely doesn't resemble yours, and doesn't appear to be all about prestige or making the most money.
Not that its not a great job. It absolutely is. It is not an iconic program, but that place is beautiful, and has a great football atmosphere.
I love the Pac10, and its awesome that Sarkesian, Mora, RichRod, Peterson, ((dude from ASU??)) are all there. Gonna be fun to watch!
December 6th, 2013 at 11:18 AM
#33
Todd Graham
He's the ASU coach.
Until this year he seemed kind of toolish (bailing on programs [Rice & Pitt] in consecutive years will get you that rep), but going 10-2 does pretty well to squash those kinds of sentiments. Also it does seem like he genuinely wants to be and stay in Tempe.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:56 AM
#34
don't forget the pirate
He has Wazzu in a bowl this year.
December 6th, 2013 at 2:04 PM
#35
UW has been historically one
UW has been historically one of the better programs of the Pac 12 -- they fell on some hard times but they're a historically rich franchise. Probably #2 behind USC in reality.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:21 AM
#36
Fraud State isnt an
Fraud State isnt an appropriate name. They actually have been wilded successful for a mid-major for over a decade with several different head coaches. I don't think you can call them Elite elite (like top 5 quality) but no doubt they had an incredible run of top 15ish teams for a small school in Idaho. Good football in Idaho!
You have to give their program some respect
December 6th, 2013 at 12:54 PM
#37
Maybe I am biased because I
Maybe I am biased because I live in Boise, but I don't understand all of the hatred for BSU. They are a team comprised largely of two-star and three-star players (according to rivals they have had two four-star recruits sign with them in the last DECADE), and yet they have largely been able to hold their own when given the chance to play against quality BCS opponents. Nobody is arguing that the Mountain West schedule is like playing in the SEC (or even the B1G), but it is hard to argue that they have not put together some quality teams over the last decade.
It seems that many Michigan fans grudgingly respect Dantonio for "coaching up" his players and overachieving, but hate on BSU for having been very successful with one-tenth of the talent that Dantonio has to work with. I don't get it.
December 6th, 2013 at 2:05 PM
#38
"It seems that many Michigan
"It seems that many Michigan fans grudgingly respect Dantonio for "coaching up" his players and overachieving, but hate on BSU for having been very successful with one-tenth of the talent that Dantonio has to work with. I don't get it."
Who are these "many" that you are refer to? I think few would be a better adjective.
December 6th, 2013 at 2:28 PM
#39
i wouldn't say many. I
i wouldn't say many. I wouldn't even knock their strength of schedule that much. Even when they played major schools they always won. Great pick up for Washington, lost their old good coach and upgraded to a better one
December 6th, 2013 at 3:34 PM
#40
I LOVE Boise St.
I have nothing but respect for Peterson and his program. I watched them beat OK St., Oregon, push Georgia aroung in their own house, and man handle VT. Those are things that for some mysterious reason, Michigan woudn't have done in the last decade.
I don't see how anyone could not respect what they've done.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:16 PM
#41
You realize he's like 9-3 against schools from BCS
You realize he's like 9-3 against schools from BCS conferences, right? He beat Oklahoma, Oregon, Georgia, and Virginia Tech, among others. Nobody wanted to play Boise, to the extent that they had to agree to one-off road games just to fill out their nonconference schedule. Dude is legitimately one of the top five coaches in college football.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:38 PM
#42
Petersen didn't build that
Petersen didn't build that program up. It was good before he got there. Actually, what's interesting is that none of his Boise predecessors has had much success after leaving for a bigger school.
December 6th, 2013 at 3:14 PM
#43
It was in decent shape when
It was in decent shape when he took over, but Petersen took it to the next level. Dan Hawkins' record at Boise was good, but he never had an undefeated season, he never had a signature win against a school from a BCS conference, and he never played in a BCS bowl (granted, it was harder for non-AQ schools to qualify for BCS bowls back then). Petersen did all three multiple times. He's the one who proved that Boise is capable of playing with the big boys.
December 6th, 2013 at 4:25 PM
#44
At Boise, Hawkins went 12-1,
At Boise, Hawkins went 12-1, 13-1 and 11-1 in 2002, 2003 and '04 respectively. He didn't go undefeated, but had them on the brink.
December 6th, 2013 at 7:11 PM
#45
The key differentiator is
The key differentiator is that Chris Petersen regularly beat good teams from AQ conferences. His 9-3 record includes wins over an 11-win Oklahoma team, a 10-win Georgia team, a 10-win Oregon State team, an 11-win Virginia Tech team, and two 10-win Oregon teams. Petersen is the reason no one wanted to play Boise State. Dan Hawkins went 2-8 against AQ teams. And the fact that Petersen was Hawkins' offensive coordinator and Hawkins failed miserably after he and Petersen parted ways probably indicates that Petersen had a lot to do with Boise's success under Hawkins.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:30 AM
#46
????
Says no to SoCal, claims he doesn't want to leave, ends up in Seattle. Chris Peterson is a hipster.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:34 AM
#47
I have turned down jobs in LA
I have turned down jobs in LA that have offered me double what I make now, absolutely hate LA.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:42 AM
#48
The USC situation is unclear
It's possible USC passed on Petersen because he may not be a good fit there. Or vice versa. Petersen supposedly is not great with media and boosters, and a public job like USC may not fit him. There's also this:
It'll be interesting to see what happens with Petersen & #UDub. In interview w #USC his vision didn't mesh with how Pat Haden wants things run
December 6th, 2013 at 10:59 AM
#49
...he proposed an orange field, didn't
...he proposed an orange field, didn't he?
December 6th, 2013 at 11:14 AM
#50
haden just couldn't get past
haden just couldn't get past peterson's view that looking the other way when players are paid is an ncaa infraction.
December 6th, 2013 at 3:18 PM
#51
I don't buy it. Before USC
I don't buy it. Before USC hired Sarkisian, there were reports that Petersen removed his name from consideration for that job. I suspect that the "source" reporting that it was USC who passed on Peterson and not vice-versa is from the USC side. There is no universe in which Sarkisian is a better hire than Petersen.
December 6th, 2013 at 4:15 PM
#52
You might want to consider
You might want to consider the success or shocking lack there of of ex Boise St. coaches who moved onto bigger jobs.
December 6th, 2013 at 5:07 PM
#53
There's really only one name
There's really only one name on that list worth considering, so that's not a great argument. And Peterson has had Boise running a lot longer than Hawkins did. I think Peterson is a much better coach than Sark and Washington fans should be thanking Pat Haden right now.
December 6th, 2013 at 5:44 PM
#54
Plus Hawkins walked into a
Plus Hawkins walked into a crap hole of a problem at Colorado.
December 6th, 2013 at 5:58 PM
#55
Hawkins and Koetter both
Hawkins and Koetter both flamed out. We seen how well Brent Pease did at Florida. Koetter was the one who really got that program going and he didn't exactly light the Pac12 on fire. It most definitely is not a coincidence that Peterson jumped after his wost year at Boise. The expectations are a lot lower at Washington than USC. People who are down on USC hiring Sark are likely the same bunch who thought Pete Carroll was a bad idea. It takes a certain personality to win and recruit at USC.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:08 AM
#56
I would guess Seattle is a lot more like Boise than LA
I'm not saying they're the same, but LA is like the opposite end of the spectrum and that would have to a tough administration to work for. How they didn't give Orgeron the job is baffling.
December 6th, 2013 at 3:53 PM
#57
When you go 10-25 at Ole Miss
When you go 10-25 at Ole Miss after taking over for a guy who posted winning records in five of his six years there (David Cutcliffe), that's a pretty big strike against you. Orgeron deserves a shot at another head coaching job, but not a USC-caliber job.
One a related note, it was great to see Cutcliffe put up a 10-win season and win coach of the year, at Duke of all places. He really got a raw deal at Ole Miss. That is one school whose opinion of itself is far removed from reality.
December 6th, 2013 at 5:48 PM
#58
If not wanting to live in LA
If not wanting to live in LA makes someone a hipster...
Well, I'll put it this way. I lived in LA for several years, and (1) there are hipsters galore in LA, and (2) you could do sooo much worse than hanging out with the hipsters.
December 6th, 2013 at 5:52 PM
#59
Holy smokes LA is hispter
Holy smokes LA is hispter central. Drive through Silver Lake or Los Feliz and that's all you'll get.
December 6th, 2013 at 6:20 PM
#60
Yep. Silver Lake has some
Yep. Silver Lake has some great music spots (like Spaceland) that are hipstered to the max. Dudes from that scene (e.g., Beck and Eiliot Smith) are/were pretty much hipsters, before that was even a meme. Santa Monica and West Hollywood have become more hipster/foodie since I left.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:35 AM
#61
When someone finally gets him
When someone finally gets him to leave BSU, of all places, it's to go to Washington? I didn't see that one coming...
December 6th, 2013 at 12:42 PM
#62
Seattle is awesome.
Seattle is awesome. Beautiful, laid back, with fairly reasonable people. After spending some time there during the football season -- and seeing their fan support & loyalty -- it makes sense. Not to mention their newly updated stadium, which is AMAZING.
U-M's fans are a lot like USC, Miami, Texas, SEC's of the world in that we expect excellence and when we don't get it quickly enough, a lot of us go nuclear.
I can see why he would turn us or USC down but not UW.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:44 PM
#63
I would not compare us to USC
I would not compare us to USC or Miami - those places struggle to sell out even when they're good. Texas, maybe. For a historically elite school, I would not say our fanbase is that harsh. The 100,000 streak has survived some rough times.
December 6th, 2013 at 2:58 PM
#64
You're right.
You're right.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:35 AM
#65
It wasn't too long ago
that Washington was a top 15-20 job. Sark's done a pretty good job of building that program back up to a recoverable level. I guess we'll see how good Peterson really is now. I always assumed he'd get lured away evenutally but this still got a verbal "wow" out of me when I read it.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:37 AM
#66
Based on the talent he got to boise
Mostly 2 and 3 star recruits, he is great at player development... I think he will do well. Washington has a loaded roster, new facilities, a revitalized fanbase... Great fit
December 6th, 2013 at 10:04 AM
#67
Agree
wholeheartedly. My wording lacked in that last post.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:02 PM
#68
I'm a little less sure of his
I'm a little less sure of his success. Dan Hawkins had just as much success and then bombed at Colorado. Granted Peterson was his OC and may have been responsible for the success there.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:35 AM
#69
If I was
A Washington fan, id be very happy about this... I think he likes a less-scrutiny job like W over something like USC... He'll get 3 years minimum at Washington
December 6th, 2013 at 11:12 AM
#70
Upgrade
If I was a Huskies fan I would be stoked. Petersen is an upgrade over Sark. Its not too often that you get to upgrade when your coach leaves for greener pastures.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:36 AM
#71
Not surprised he did not go anywhere else
It's never been about how awesome the career move could be. For Petersen, it's about location, location, location. Most people forget that his son is a former cancer patient and the family established a strong bond with the doctors who treated him. Washington is not a very long way from Boise, but most "destination" jobs certainly are (except Oregon).
December 6th, 2013 at 9:42 AM
#72
It's like 400 miles vs. 700
It's like 400 miles vs. 700 miles. Either way, you're jumping a plane if you're going to Boise and the time difference wouldn't be that great.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:06 AM
#73
Common.
There is no way Boise State has better doctors, facilities, or technology than any of the schools he was rumored to be interested in. Compare that to a place like Ann Arbor, Oregon, LA...
December 6th, 2013 at 10:14 AM
#74
It's not about how good the docs are
It's about the relationship you've established with your doctors. In Petersen's case, I'm sure his wife had more than a little to say about any potential moves that would have taken him too far from Boise.
From first-hand experience, I can also tell you that many juvenile cancer patients become lifetime patients by design (as in the case of C.S. Mott and Children's Hospital of Michigan). That may be the case with Petersen's son, as well. As a result, just "finding a new doctor" isn't such a straight-forward thing, no matter how good they may be in one metro area versus another.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:12 PM
#75
While BSU's facilities may
While BSU's facilities may not be as good as those in other, bigger schools, health care in Boise is actually quite good, and some of the facilities are highly regarded.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:46 AM
#77
I guess someone's word is
I guess someone's word is only good for a day and a half...
Anyhow, this is an excellent fit for Peterson. Can still recruit NorCal and can recruit a little more nationally. Also, he is at a hip city with new facilities and a gorgeous campus. He'll do well and I'll wager he'll win a PAC-12 Championship within 3 years.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:44 AM
#78
When exactly did Dissly talk
When exactly did Dissly talk to Peterson? Could be that until Washington came calling this week, Peterson was happy to stay at BSU. I always find it funny when people complain how coaches change schools after telling people they aren't changing schools. I guess circumstances never change, and new opportunities can never change your mind.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:22 PM
#79
Not complaining, just saying
Not complaining, just saying that what he said only lasted a day and a half. If I were in Petersen's shoes I would leave too. In the world of sports and in professional life you have to make business based decisions and that's what Petersen did. Washington will always be a better opportunity than Boise.
It sucks for the kids that commit to a coach and then they're gone in a snap. Empathy for the kids is what I'm trying to convey when I say that his word only lasts a short time. I'm sure the kid will be fine, though.
December 6th, 2013 at 9:50 AM
#80
http://espn.go.com/college-fo
December 6th, 2013 at 10:45 AM
#81
BJ
Rains
December 6th, 2013 at 9:50 AM
#82
In Any Case...
Well, in any case, Boise State fans were quite prepared with this - HERE - "The Complete List Of Ways To React To Chris Petersen Job Rumors".
Here's a snippet from ESPN's constantly updated story:
"Petersen, who met with Washington on Thursday, felt ready to leave because the timing was right for professional and family reasons and because he felt Washington was the right fit, according to a source."
It will be interesting to see what the contract looks like - Whittingham at Utah makes about $2.5 million, I believe, and I have to wonder if Washington puts him near or right at this level at least. It would be interesting to know what Sarkisian will get at USC and what David Shaw makes as well for possible comparisons / guesses.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:01 AM
#83
Maybe Boise State will hire Borges to replace him
Too mean?
December 6th, 2013 at 10:08 AM
#84
No,
but also too soon.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:15 AM
#85
too soon? not soon enough!
too soon? not soon enough!
December 6th, 2013 at 10:01 AM
#86
Is it any wonder that the PAC
Is it any wonder that the PAC 10 is pushing the SEC for conference reputation these days? Look at the coaches they hire when there are openings and compare that to the B1G. We seem to go to the hottest MAC coach available instead of opening our B1G network funded checkbooks and hiring the Chris Peterson's of the coaching world.
With the exception of Ohio State and maybe PSU the B1G generally goes "on the cheap" when it comes to replacing coaches and it shows.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:06 AM
#87
Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Gary Pinkel
were all MAC coaches.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:16 AM
#88
yes, but they weren't mac
yes, but they weren't mac coaches just before they were hired at the schools he lists.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:42 AM
#89
Pinkel was.Anyways, the MAC
has a tradition of producing outstanding coaches. His post was ignorant.
By the way, Bo was hired straight from Miami as was Woody.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:59 AM
#90
Woody and Bo are both dead
I know we tend to want to live in the past here, but Woody and Bo are not relevant to this discussion.
Woody coached in the MAC 60 years ago. Bo coached in the MAC 45 years ago. You act like dropping those two names adds any meaningfulness to your point. It doesn't. In fact, it shows how weak your argument is that you have to refence coaches who haven't coached football in over 20 years as prime examples of great MAC coaches.
Things change.
December 6th, 2013 at 2:36 PM
#91
Ummm
I think his point was that it is possible to hire a great coach from the MAC who can come to your program and do great things for a long time.
He might have mentioned Bo and Woody since this is a Michigan blog and it was a common point of reference.
December 6th, 2013 at 3:31 PM
#92
See other comment above
There hasn't been a good coach hired directly out of the MAC in over a decade.
December 6th, 2013 at 3:34 PM
#93
Yeah,
Yeah, by your argument Ohio should never have hired Tressel. After all, he wasn't even a MAC coach.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:53 AM
#94
15 years ago.
And Meyer and Saban weren't poached from the MAC. Saban coached Toledo for a year. Meyer at BGSU for 2 years. The MAC hasn't produced a top-notch coach in over a decade, which is one of the reasons why the Big Ten is struggling.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:16 AM
#95
Yeah cuz the SEC and PAC 12
Yeah cuz the SEC and PAC 12 always hire the best coaches. Kiffin, graham, leach, Bielema, jones, John L, Muschamp, Freeze, etc.
You need program builders to build to national prominence. Save the sexy hires for big time programs of which there are exactly 4 and no more in the big 10
December 6th, 2013 at 10:19 AM
#96
So were Butch Jones and Brian Kelly.*
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December 6th, 2013 at 10:57 AM
#97
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about? Pretty much every coach hired into the league is a former coordinator/assistant. UW and Colorado hired coaches from weaker conferences(though petersen is a much bigger name that any MAC coach). Arizona and WSU took chances on disgraced offensive gurus and ASU hired Graham. UCLA snagged a twice fired former NFL HC.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:25 PM
#98
As opposed to Washington, who
As opposed to Washington, who just hired a guy from the MWC.
Someone hire Gruden already!
December 6th, 2013 at 2:41 PM
#99
Doesn't count
He runs the spread.
I bet if we hired someone from the Big East it would go well.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:04 AM
#100
This makes Kalen Ballage to
This makes Kalen Ballage to MSU likely. Ugh.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:25 PM
#101
That was my thinking too.
That was my thinking too. Clearly the universe is conspiring to inflict as much pain as possible upon Michigan this year, while favoring rivals with unearned benefits.
Then again, maybe Ballage takes a look a UW now.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:06 AM
#102
hilarious
washington has coach poached, gets better coach.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:31 AM
#103
We'll see
Petersen picked up where Hawkins left off, then Hawkins promptly fell on his face at Colorado. Of course Petersen was the OC for all of Hawkins' success, so maybe that is an endorsement for Petersen
December 6th, 2013 at 10:09 AM
#104
Whoa. Did not see that one
Whoa. Did not see that one coming.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:14 AM
#105
Filling Out His Staff?
Wonder if he'll try to poach any of Hoke's westcoast-native staff, specifically Funk.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:18 AM
#106
This actually makes sense to me
Hear me out, the places that came calling, for the most part, were programs with extremely high expectations that often required rebuilding (not necessarily USC, but still) where at the first signs of everything not coming up Milhouse you get canned.
At Washington he has a decent base left from the previous staff, but still has time to build his program the way he wants and isn't required to get 9-10 wins every year. It's a step up where the program has pretty damn good potential, he knows how to recruit to that area in general, but is also quite safe. So it kind of gives him the best of all worlds.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:09 PM
#107
Good fit
Good hire. Similar recruiting region. Bigger school with good football history. He seems to get a lot out of his players. He managed to keep Titus Young grounded--perhaps his best accomplishment.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:27 AM
#108
Watch out, Pac 12. That north
Watch out, Pac 12. That north division is wide open with Oregon and Stanford having peaked.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:38 AM
#109
Also, its incredible how the
Also, its incredible how the power has shifted in the conference over just a few short years. Next year, the South is looking like the stronger division with ASU, UCLA, USC, and even Arizona.
In the North, Stanford loses a ton of starters. Oregon will be good again, but after them there is not much depth. Assuming Stanford takes a step back, who is the second best team in the North? Maybe Washington? WSU? OSU? Lots of meh there.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:29 PM
#110
I'm also betting that Oregon
I'm also betting that Oregon and Stanford start to slow down a bit. Chip Kelly and Jim Harbaugh were the architects of those respective programs. They usually take a bit of a dive after those types of guys leave. I also don't see a lot of HC in Helfrich. Seems more like a coordinator than a leader of men. We'll see.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:46 AM
#111
Incremental Success beats Quick Success Over Time
I compare Pedersen's career progression to John Belein's. Steady progression combined with a reasonable sense of loyalty. If Pedersen is successful at UW he still has a chance to go to a truly elite job some day but can still live and work within reasonably boundaries on his own terms. Commend him on his choice if it involves a combination of meeting career and family needs.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:26 PM
#112
So..
So..Petersen has coached at every level of his sport over the last 40 years, working his way up through the ranks? Not understanding that comparison. I think that's a put-down to the career resume of Coach B.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:57 AM
#113
Remember when Dirk Koetter
Remember when Dirk Koetter was all the rage after his stint at Boise? And Dan Hawkins? And Brent Pease was supposed to take all that Boise magic with him to Florida?
I'm going to let this one play out before I call it a home run hire.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:44 AM
#114
yeah
I wrote out a long response similar to this and then when I went to submit, it magically disappeared into the intertubes.
The other thing to consider is that Boise had a pretty down year (for them) and perhaps Petersen saw this as a sign of things to come and that his heyday was starting to wind down.
December 6th, 2013 at 1:39 PM
#115
BSU did have a pretty young
BSU did have a pretty young team this year, and they lost their starting QB and backup RB to injuries about halfway through the season. It will be interesting to see what they are able to do next year.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:57 AM
#116
Really? After all of the A-list jobs he has been
Really? After all of the A-list jobs he has been offered over the last few years, he finally settles for Washington?
December 6th, 2013 at 11:36 AM
#117
I thought that too but I also
I thought that too but I also realize now that the bottom has really fallen out in Boise.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:58 AM
#118
Hopefully this means no more
Hopefully this means no more Blue Turf on my teevee. Hurts my eyes. My perfectly manicured lawn is green not blue.
December 6th, 2013 at 10:58 AM
#119
Good for him...
...good move for both sides.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:08 AM
#120
Well that was a shocker
I guess now we just have Jon Gruden as the coach rumor board now. To be honest though i thought he was never leave Boise but it seems like a good fit for Washington its not a win now school and they will let him do build it his way doesnt have to feel like he was going to be micromanage. Now I wonder if Sark will try to poach Nussmeier from Bama to USC.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:58 AM
#121
I think Peterson will win now
I think Peterson will win now at UW. He doesn't have to change offensive philosopihes as they are already pro style, Sark has recruited very well there and they looked poised to break out in the next year or two. I think Peterson recognized this as a awesome opportunity and jumped on it. All the other PAC jobs were messes he would have to step into. This one is set up already.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:21 AM
#122
I was in Chicago the weekend
I was in Chicago the weekend that Washington played Illinois at Soldier Field. I was amazed at how the Washington faithful turned out. There were more of them running around than Illini "fans". Must be a great job on the west coast.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:31 AM
#123
Peterson recruits that area
Peterson recruits that area and seems to be well respected there. Good fit for him and the school.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:32 AM
#124
Solid hire
I actually think Washington is getting an upgrade.
December 6th, 2013 at 11:35 AM
#125
#narduzzitoboise
#narduzzitoboise
December 6th, 2013 at 12:08 PM
#126
Pac 12 doing in Football what Big 10 did in Basketball
Every single team has a good coach now. Or, at least, has a coach considered to be a good up and comer. If the Big Ten is going to compete they need to start having their middling teams hire good coaches, hopefully it started with Minnesota and Kill. (It also needs Michigan to have a top staff, but that's for a different post).
I also don't get the shock over him leaving for Washington. Washington has great facilities, one of the loudest stadiums in the country, has tradition (second most PAC 12 Rose Bowls after USC), and good recruiting. It's also in a pretty cool city. It's not like he went to Oregon State or Wazzu.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:08 PM
#127
Color me shocked. I live in
Color me shocked. I live in Seattle right now and can't wait to get out. The main reasons for me are the weather, the traffic and the depressed people. Other than that it's a cool city.
December 6th, 2013 at 2:05 PM
#128
"other than that"?
"other than that"?
December 6th, 2013 at 12:19 PM
#129
Great move for all parties.
I don't understand the people saying You-Dub is a bad move...it's a good school w/ better facilities than most, an historically successful program with a MNC within the last 25 years, and it's located in a beautiful city. If a guy can recruit reasonably well and coach AT ALL (and Petersen can seemingly do both) there's no reason he shouldn't do well there.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:25 PM
#130
I think alot
of the "bad move" folks are too young to remember when Washington was consistently good when Don James was the coach.
From the late 70's to early 90's Washington was USC's equal on the left coast. Those teams in 90,91 and 92 were something else.
December 6th, 2013 at 2:10 PM
#131
Steve Emtman still haunts my dreams.*
Dd
December 6th, 2013 at 12:24 PM
#132
Washington opens
2014 at Hawaii, then home to Eastern Washington, Illinois, Georgia State.
He'll be all the rage with a 4-0 start, then it gets serious.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:29 PM
#133
I think that Washington being
I think that Washington being a decent program without necessarily being a top tier one actually helped it land Peterson ... There are people who would rather start off-broadway than getting pushed into the bright lights of broadway right away.
December 6th, 2013 at 12:38 PM
#134
Narduzzi to Boise.
Calling
Narduzzi to Boise.
Calling it now
December 6th, 2013 at 12:57 PM
#135
Now Colin Cowherd has his
Now Colin Cowherd has his doppelgänger coaching his favorite team...besides USC.
December 6th, 2013 at 3:09 PM
#136
I guess I have two big
I guess I have two big questions here: Where does Boise go from here? And after all the jobs that have courted/been rumored to have courted Petersen, why this one, and why now?
I mean, I like it. Washington is a great program that could probably be quite easily resurrected into a power in a conference verging on being the SEC West. The ceiling was probably hit at BSU like four years ago, and you can only recruit on the SmurfTurf Effect for so long before you want something more. But what made Petersen pick this moment?
December 6th, 2013 at 3:22 PM
#137
Boise State's current
Boise State's current performance (8-4 and unranked this year) might have something to do with it ... But I also believe it might have been timing related to family events (kids moving away etc.) or the fact that his age (around 50) is perfect to cash in on his success thus far and at least get one big contract under his belt
December 6th, 2013 at 4:31 PM
#138
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
December 6th, 2013 at 3:32 PM
#139
People who are downplaying
People who are downplaying Petersen's success at Boise because they play in a weak conference or comparing him to Dan Hawkins are not accounting for how Boise performed against BCS schools. Here's a list of who Boise beat under Petersen: Washington, Georgia, Arizona State, Virginia Tech, Oregon State (twice), Oregon (twice), and Oklahoma (who can forget that one). Dan Hawkins' resume at Boise was not nearly as impressive.
Dude is legitimately one of the best coaches in the game. If I was a Washington fan, I would be having a party right now.
December 6th, 2013 at 4:04 PM
#140
Agreed.
I know I was hoping he'd've gotten the Michigan gig when RichRod was fired. I don't think we as fans would have regretted such a hire.
December 6th, 2013 at 4:27 PM
#141
About 1 or 2 a year then.
About 1 or 2 a year then.
December 6th, 2013 at 5:52 PM
#142
A very good situation for
A very good situation for Peterson to walk into. Sark has recruited very well, and UW is in better shape now than at any time in the last 10 years. I think he would have left earlier, had his predecessor at Boise, Hawkins, not flamed out at Colorado.
December 6th, 2013 at 6:47 PM
#143
It always seemed like CP
It always seemed like CP would either wait it out for a big, big job or stay at Boise. Washington seems like he's settling. They used to be good?
December 6th, 2013 at 9:40 PM
#144
It's in the pacific NW and in
It's in the pacific NW and in the great city of Seattle. Don't underestimate UW
December 6th, 2013 at 8:29 PM
#145
Great Hire
Don't know if the guy is worth 3.6 million a year though. Makes him the highest paid coach in the PAC-12.
