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Chris Muller (Rutgers OL) split 50/50 between UM and RU

H/T to Dhani Bowtie who posted this in a previous thread.

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I don't have enough points anymore to start a thread but TomVH updated our recruitment of OL Chris Muller earlier today. Muller says he's 50-50 between Michigan and Rutgers. Article is paywalled.

 

http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/michigan/forums/_/the-den#!/topic/1327858436-888-40

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:38 PM | We don't share paywalled material like this (Score:-1 Overrated)
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It's not okay to share paywalled material like this where you're just directly regurgitating the information.

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:46 PM | Delete then (Score:5 Normal)
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Would it have been better if I said he's making a decision between Rutgers and Michigan, neither team has a lead? I'm really curious, I've been a daily reader of this blog for 4 years and have gleamed paywalled info from countless posts. I didn't just copy and paste the post nor did I reveal all of the info that Tom posted.

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:55 PM | Dudes being a nut (Score:5 Normal)
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Dudes being a nut people do it all the time

 
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January 29th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | I'll cosign that! (Score:1)
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You've never been accused of that in the past. Keep doin your thang. It's much appreciated of the info you've brought to this blog.

Lucky enough to have my own JT wristband!!

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | The rule (Score:-1 Overrated)
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http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/meta-premium-information-policy

While Brian is very lax on this issue, he says don't relay every last detail.  The truth is, that post from TomVH really only had that one detail, Muller is 50/50 between the two.  This post relayed everything that TomVH had to say.  It's better to be vague like, we still have a good shot with Muller.

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:26 PM | It's better to not be such a (Score:1 Normal)
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It's better to not be such a nit.  

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:58 PM | You're wrong. (Score:5 Normal)
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He said don't cut and paste it word for word, and don't give every detail, yes, but if there is only one piece of news, that's all that can be told. It's not a requirement to obscure the facts. As said below, you can copyright the text, but you can't hide info. If you want it a secret, don't publish it. No one owns what someone else said. Give it up.

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January 29th, 2012 at 6:19 PM | STFU (Score:2 Flamebait)
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STFU.

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January 29th, 2012 at 5:02 PM | I love free content. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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I love free content.

"im saying to myself should i do it should i not. I crossed the goaline and hey...fuck it" Desmond Howard on his Heisman pose

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:48 PM | Say what? (Score:1)
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I see it done all the time

Its called a royale with cheese

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:22 PM | I'll always have trouble (Score:3 Normal)
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I'll always have trouble seeing it as morally wrong to tell someone what's behind a paywalled article.  The business plan is just dumb.  Are we just supposed to keep secrets?  Am I not supposed to tell you what I read in the New York Times?

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:31 PM | You can't copyright information (Score:3 Normal)
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Only the way it is written. Sharing facts from behind a paywall is not wrong. Copying and pasting it, especially in full, is.

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:38 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:3 Normal)
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Tim Horton's is way better than Dunkin' Donuts, man. Come to Michigan.

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:43 PM | The nice thing about Michigan (Score:2)
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The nice thing about Michigan is you get a choice.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:52 PM | Fascinating, since Muller (Score:0 Overrated)
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Accorsing to several sites, doesn't have a Michigan offer.

Just fascinating. Not!

Go Blue!!!!!!

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January 29th, 2012 at 9:14 PM | That is very debatable IMO. (Score:1)
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That is very debatable IMO. Although both are great. But come to Michigan either way Chris!

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
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January 29th, 2012 at 3:38 PM | Kozan (Score:1 Normal)
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Anyone know when he is announcing?

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:50 PM | Sam Webb tweeted that he was (Score:3 Normal)
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Sam Webb tweeted that he was deciding today.

Tremendous 2014 rankings

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:18 PM | I dont want to disrespect the (Score:3 Normal)
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I dont want to disrespect the board or the rules, but according to our old buddy, Kozan is in fact announcing tonight. There have been more updates, but Im not going to be that guy. I'll just say one thing and that is the "new guy" may or may not have been on campus today...

THOSE WHO STAY WILL BE CHAMPIONS

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:39 PM | Has he visited yet? (Score:1)
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Has he visited yet?

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:27 PM | If Muller is the unamned (Score:0 Overrated)
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If Muller is the unamned object of your question, yes, he visited this summer, around the same time as Bars. And, of course, he may have been the mystery visitor this weekend.

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:39 PM | if we strike out on (Score:1)
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if we strike out on Kozan/diamond this is huge

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:39 PM | What was all this talk about (Score:1)
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What was all this talk about him trying to keep the Rutgers recruiting class together after Shiano left.  

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | Niccee (Score:2)
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Niccee

Bo' Money Bo' Problems

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January 29th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | how did this post get here? (Score:1 Normal)
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how did this post get here?

"There will be blood on the field and it
won't be mine. … Quote it. Let them
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January 29th, 2012 at 3:44 PM | thus kid look about  (Score:2 Informative)
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thus kid look about 260597.jpg

"Go home, Steve!

 

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:07 PM | on a side note (Score:1)
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Does anyone know if Grant, Reeves, and Kozan are supposed to announce today and about what  time?

We're not teaching them about sports, we're teaching them about life!

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:33 PM | Kozan is supposed to announce (Score:1)
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Kozan is supposed to announce tonight and people seem unsure whether or not the other two are.

Whatcha gonna do, little brother?

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:13 PM | Thanks 4 posting..Im getting (Score:1)
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Thanks 4 posting..Im getting sick and tired of the internet police.

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:20 PM | Imagine how TomVH feels when (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Imagine how TomVH feels when people steal his content.  It's his job, how he makes money and feeds his family.

Look for the bare necessities
The simple bare necessities
Forget about your worries and your strife
 

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:26 PM | I'm pretty sure ESPN pays him (Score:3 Normal)
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No matter what. And information is never copyrighted, only the format is.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:30 PM | ESPN isn't going to fire van (Score:2 Normal)
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ESPN isn't going to fire van Haaren because some Internet guy put a piece of information (relatively useless) into the free sphere.

It's not like this was premium Recruit 4 U information. ESPN will get by.

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:46 PM | If its useless (Score:0 Overrated)
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Why post anything, especially when Tom asks that you not do it?

w will all find out soon enough.

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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January 29th, 2012 at 5:02 PM | Where did he ask that? (Score:0 Redundant)
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And how will we all know it if someone doesn't tell it? Is the recruit required not to tell anyone since Tom paywalled it?

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January 29th, 2012 at 5:17 PM | shouldn't talk back (Score:2 Insightful)
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to mom

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January 29th, 2012 at 8:44 PM | If you were a subscriber (Score:1)
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You would know where he asked that. Hint: its not on mgoblog anywhere.

And we will know when the kid announces..that's what I meant. Picking this apart, minute by minute, is like the asshole driver who cuts off cars to save a net of 30 seconds in an hour long commute.

By the way, the kid doesn't need tvhs approval to announce.

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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January 30th, 2012 at 2:30 PM | So you're a subscriber (Score:1)
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That's all bent out of shape because you're realizing you're paying for nothing, because information breaks instantly in this day and age, and to pay for it is, well, not too bright. He may "ask" it, but if he didn't ask it here (which would be the height of hypocrisy since he benefited from this whole format) then what obligation is anyone here to keep what someone else tells him private?

The $$$ value is in what the kid says.  If he had tweeted it would be out there for free. But because he tells Tom it give the Tom the right to make a profit off of what the kid says, when the kid can't see any of that money?  The kid telling Tom, and not asking him to keep it confidential, means he wants it public. I doubt his intent is to make it public...but just tell the people who pay for your site.  If the kid tells it, he either wants it out there, or doesn't want it out there at all.  He's profiting off of the players with them getting nothing in return. But pub.  And restricted pub is even less of a benefit.

You write something, you've created a personal work.  You just pass along something someone else says, that's in no way different than someone passing along what Tom said.  Because Tom didn't pay or his quote either.

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:56 PM | TomVH has benefitted directly (Score:3 Normal)
mejunglechop
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TomVH has benefitted directly from Mgoblog's set up.

Galileo was also chastised.

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January 29th, 2012 at 5:04 PM | Imagine how Mueller feels (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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Where Tom is making a profit off of HIS words.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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January 29th, 2012 at 5:32 PM | I agree. The hypocrisy is (Score:4 Normal)
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I agree. The hypocrisy is enough to make your head spin. I give these sites a grace period of about an hour or so of being breaking news, by then it's either already posted or I will tell you what they said myself. I paid for the content and I will do what I want with it. 

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January 29th, 2012 at 4:19 PM | Would be huge get for Hoke. (Score:1)
brooktrail
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And this would definitely give me back some lost smile due to Garnett's love of some tree.

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January 29th, 2012 at 9:01 PM | Not to be a buzz kill but on (Score:1)
panthers5
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Not to be a buzz kill but on scout Sam Webb and company have said the opposite, that he made contact with coaches and they were not interested. Dunno. Sam also says gut feeling re Kozan is we got him.

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January 30th, 2012 at 12:46 AM | Well he's big and Brady Hoke (Score:1)
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Well he's big and Brady Hoke & Co. like big. So I think there is a Big chance we might land this kid after gregory leaving town.

 

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