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Chris Floyd venting over twitter

Tremendous just retweeted this twitter diatribe by former player Chris Floyd. I am going to reserve judgment until the full story comes out, but I just don't get this.  In the last couple years, we've had similar rants demanding a job for Corwin Brown on the new staff (clearly the AD knew what they were doing), scholarships for relatives (i.e. Braylon Edwards), and ex-players injecting themselves into the head coach search process. I appreciate everything these guys did for the program and university, but this just seems a bit much.

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

Moved back to Ann Arbor from DC 3months ago because I was promised a job in the Athletic Department.....

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

I am a former student athlete and National Champion

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

After a promise and 3 months of waiting and interviewing and waiting more, they go and hire someone else....Leaders and Best? SMH

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

Still, My loyalty is with Michigan. I'll always support one of my favorite people, Coach Hoke any way I can....

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

There is a serious disconnect between the athletic department and the athletic alumni and they wonder why we don't come back or give back!

 

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:36 AM | Never good (Score:5 Normal)
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Just another problem with social media... This is something that should be taken care of behind closed doors.  Not knowing the whole story I won't try and determine who is right and who is wrong but this stuff needs to stay private.  I hate twitter

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:57 AM | Well said... (Score:4 Normal)
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In the right hands, Twitter may be the best current source of immediate news and sound bites... in the wrong hands, it is nothing less than a total, unmitigated disaster.

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July 14th, 2012 at 4:57 PM | I like it (Score:4 Normal)
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I like Twitter, and the internet in general, because it gives a public voice to those who might not otherwise have one.  In "the old days," this would have been buried.  I know it's "dirty laundry that should be kept private" to some, but I'm all for transparency in any state organization, no matter where it gets its funding.

 

 

 

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:06 PM | How many things in our (Score:3 Normal)
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How many things in our country are illegal because they're "dangerous" when not used correctly?  Problem is, the people who abuse these things often do more damage than the good people do who use them correctly.  I would argue Twitter is one of those things.

Now, I'm not saying it should be illegal, but I do believe that it brings more harm than good.

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:09 PM | Twittah (Score:2)
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Agreed -- I don't know of a better way to see the beast (the WWW) breathing.

"500 channels and nothing but cats."

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:38 AM | Sorry, don't feel bad. (Score:0 Normal)
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Aww, he was promised a job before the hiring process was actually done and they wound up going with someone else?  I feel so bad for him.  I guess being a national champion qualifies you for all kinds of jobs.  Without knowing the whole background, I hope the university did its due diligence and went with the best candidate rather than just giving a wink and a nod to someone.  

No one should have "promised" him the job in the first place of course, but still.  I have been passed over for a lot of jobs and no one should be gifted one.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:07 PM | I know Chris personally, and (Score:-1 Overrated)
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I know Chris personally, and he is a great guy.  No ordinary schmoe gets to marry Gabrielle Union for a while after all.  Your comments completely disregard any concept of Michigan "FAMILY."  Chris Floyd was a leading cog in the '97 championship team, and is revered, or should be, in Ann Arbor.  Does that mean insta-job?  No.  But if he's told he was promised a job, one can understand his disappointment, tempered by his Tweetting a confirmed continued allegiance to Michigan.

The man was venting steam.  I would too if I felt I was promised a job and it wasn't delivered.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:15 PM | Somebody who vents steam (Score:5 Normal)
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Somebody who vents steam publicly on Twitter is probably not somebody I want to hire for a position involving responsibility.

Life in the real world outside the bubble of football is tough. 

Jon Runyan plugged my toilet.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:15 PM | You are talking about the wrong Chris (Score:5 Normal)
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Chris Howard married Gabrielle Union, not Chris Floyd. Which one is your personal friend?

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:28 PM | No kidding. (Score:5 Normal)
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Are these imaginary friends for him?

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:31 PM |  BOOM!!! Roasted (Score:5 Normal)
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 BOOM!!! Roasted

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:51 PM | Really?? (Score:0 Redundant)
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You probably don't know him that well.  If you did, you would know that it was actually Chris Howard that married Gabrielle Union, not Chris Floyd.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:39 AM | If you think you have a job ( (Score:1 Normal)
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If you think you have a job ( especially a job in such a high profile area) because you were promised it and not because you signed a contract, then you probably don't deserve the job.



Moving before you even know if you have the job? Wow. There's many qualified people in the world and not all of them went to UM. You get the job if ypu're the best candidate, not if you have the most past relationships. Geez, this is Life 101.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:56 AM | Really? (Score:4 Normal)
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In plenty of cases relationships are more important than actual skills.

You learn this in life 301 where reality is meshed with poetic visions of how life should be.

History is written by the victors-Winston Churchill
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July 14th, 2012 at 1:07 PM | I wasn't clear. I meant you (Score:1 Normal)
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I wasn't clear. I meant you shouldn't move before you know something for sure - that's life 101.



I agree relationships are crucial in getting a foot in the door - both my jobs I was hired for I got interviewed because of a UM connection at the employer. Yet, I still had to beat other qualified candidates for the positions. And even when one person told me I was a shoe-in I didn't assume anything until an offer was made.



But really the guy proved he wasn't the right guy for the job by his Twitter actions. No employer is going to tolerate that.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:09 PM | Reconcile your comments with (Score:-1 Redundant)
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Reconcile your comments with the concept of "Michigan Family" if you would.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:13 PM | I must disagree... (Score:1)
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Depending on the nature of the promise, it could constitute an oral contract. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 3:44 PM | Lol (Score:1)
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If he was paid a hundred bucks or less maybe.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:40 AM | So being a former student (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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So being a former student athlete and national champion entitles you to a job? Join the real world Mr. Floyd.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:02 PM | Take a step back (Score:3 Normal)
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He is not saying he "is entitled" to a job. He is saying that he was promised a job. If true, this does rather suck. It not really cool to Pass judgement until we have the facts.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:04 PM | Plus, I have to think that (Score:3 Normal)
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Plus, I have to think that whoever was in charge of the hiring decision heard about those tweets, and is now even more confident they made the proper choice.  I just hope he didn't hurt his chances at other jobs by venting on social media.  

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:41 AM | Funny (Score:4 Normal)
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I am watching 97 ND game and he just destroyed a lb on a mattison blitz pickup and scored a td on a run earlier.



I am glad he is not mad at me.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:25 PM | Agreed (Score:2 Normal)
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I think we need Chris Howard's take on the situation.
Paging Mr. Howard...?

You might want to have a talk with your guy Floyd. Somebody is talking about him and your ex-wife...

Omnes i facere est vincere 
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July 14th, 2012 at 12:29 PM | He did fumble (Score:2)
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On michigan's 30 up 21-14 with about 5 min left in the game, but the d stopped ND on 4th and 2 and the OL and Chris howard destroyed ND on a time eating drive.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:41 AM | Also can anyone even confirm this is really Chris Floyd? (Score:1 Offtopic)
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I just realized these are the only tweets he has sent out from his account, and he has changed his profile pictures twice. I guess maybe he just started the account to put this out there.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:52 AM | Probably it is (Score:3 Normal)
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based on this: https://twitter.com/simply_sme/status/222927193716690945. Floyd's tweets are now gone, however.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:43 AM | Sorry, but there's not nearly (Score:4 Normal)
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Sorry, but there's not nearly enough information available for people to be commenting on the legitimacy of his frustration (one way or another). Complaints about his public venting might be fair, but again, there's a ton that we don't know.

Hell, I think the most newsworthy thing here is that even when someone is infuriated with the Michigan AD, he still manages to express his love and appreciation for Brady Hoke.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:51 AM | True (Score:1 Normal)
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but either way, definitely not the forum for it and won't help you in the future even if he was wronged.  I'm just trying to figure out what job he was even looking for. The only opening on the football staff I can even think of is Roy Manning (graduate assistant), but I thought you actually have to be in graduate school to have that job.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:51 AM | Regardless of what happened, (Score:2 Normal)
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Regardless of what happened, best thing is to just keep it to yourself, especially when it comes to social media. No one ever got ahead putting their unhappiness out for all to see. 

There's a time and a place for spontaneity. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:53 AM | Maybe (Score:2 Normal)
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UM hired a more qualified individual.  It's called competition Floyd, just like in football.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:01 AM | I am happy that the AD isn't (Score:4 Normal)
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I am happy that the AD isn't using cronyism as the sole basis for hiring. It's truly necessary if they want to run an efficient operation.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:37 PM | I was thinking the same thing (Score:2)
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I was thinking the same thing about our AD. I am a little more curious about the tweet stating 'wonder why we don't come back/donate'. Selfishness was not a virtue I thought Lloyd would have espoused.

Who is Jon Falk?
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July 14th, 2012 at 3:49 PM | There's a diffrerence between (Score:3 Normal)
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There's a diffrerence between a football coach and someone working in the AD. A football coach at Michigan is half coach, half politician. However, you want everything inside the AD to be a streamline process, and it probably isn't beneficial for anyone to believe they deserve special treatment. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:02 AM | Pathetic (Score:1)
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Why would you move to a state without a job? I was told I would get multiple jobs in life if I applied. I didn't get some, and never moved until human resources had my offer in my email. This isn't high school where everyone passes, or sports where nobody is a loser. Our society better toughen up on kids. We are always politically correct and we don't prepare kids for work. Life doesn't work on promises, only action.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:24 AM | As others have noted, I'm (Score:1 Normal)
bronxblue
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As others have noted, I'm going to withhold full judgment until knowing the whole story, but don't complain on twitter about not getting a job if it wasn't in writing.  But my guess is the  "we'd love to have you come in and interview for the position" part that was said was interpretted as "you'll get the job because you used to play for UM", which obviously didn't turn out to be the case.  But this little diatribe will certainly burn bridges at the University, and seems foolish for a guy who is a couple of years older than me and should know better.  

I've been passed over for jobs that I thought should be mine, and I certainly didn't publicly bitch about it.  Sucks to move and all, but that's on him, and his complaints just make him sound like a whiny kid.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:31 AM | Way to... (Score:5 Normal)
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...show restraint from judging without the complete story.



:/

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:47 PM | This is the internet - show (Score:2 Normal)
bronxblue
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This is the internet - show me one person who has displayed restraint and I'll show you someone who hasn't been to a message board.

That said, duly noted.  I will remain steadfast in my belief, though, that bitching on twitter about a missed job opportunity isn't the best course of action for anyone.

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July 14th, 2012 at 9:43 PM | bronxblue is such a cunt (Score:1)
Jon06
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jk

but you're right about the lack of restraint on message boards. once i thought of that, there was no way i wasn't saying it.

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:36 AM | we should extend the not (Score:1 Normal)
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we should extend the not following recruits to not following anyone on twitter to avoid hum bugs

"What" ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in What?

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:41 AM | Tremendous is the Skip (Score:5 Normal)
Mr. Rager
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Tremendous is the Skip Bayless of Michigan football coverage

"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:51 AM | Perfect Example: Spamming for Follow Backs (Score:5 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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@MattMo8 Matt, you mind a followback?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 14, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/224148381424029697

@Nate_Starks You mind a followback Nate? Thanks.

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223773516640690176

@DonaldStyles22 You mind a follow back Donald?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223577150446518272

@AlwaysThatMan_ Hey Phillip you mind a followback?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223575199356944385

@D_Branch79 You mind a followback Desmond?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223571544323006464

@D_Branch79 You mind a followback Desmond?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223571544323006464

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:52 AM | You continue to be one of my (Score:3 Normal)
Mr. Rager
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You continue to be one of my favorite posters on this board.  All killer, no filler.   

"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:54 PM | Playing advocate here, he's not spamming just for follow backs. (Score:-1 Overrated)
a2_electricboogaloo
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All the people he was asking to follow him back were players who he likely wants to interview.  He's probably asking them to follow back, because if they follow him back, then he can send a private 'direct message' on twitter (who you can only send to people who follow you) in order to organize the interview (phone number/email/time of interview etc).

USING GRATUITOUS AMOUNTS OF CAPS LOCK SINCE APRIL 2011

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:07 PM | No. It's creepy as shit. (Score:5 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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It's the exact same message teenage girls send to Justin Bieber.

 

 

 

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:10 PM | I miss the glory days when (Score:5 Normal)
CRex
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I miss the glory days when the MGoCreeper van as the sole source of recruiting news.  We didn't know how good we had it.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:43 AM | Twit... (Score:3 Normal)
VAWolverine
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is short for twitter,,, unfortunately.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:08 PM | Unfortunately this is kind of (Score:2)
WolverLaker
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Unfortunately this is kind of surprising because in this day and age seems like it isn't always about what you know anymore, it is about who you know

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:11 PM | in this day and age?  try (Score:1 Normal)
CLord
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in this day and age?  try always.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:15 PM | I'd say if you've actually (Score:1 Trolling)
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I'd say if you've actually been promised a job, by a department you've worked with/for in the past -- especially one with whom you have a strong connection -- it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume they'll make good on the promise. But it's hard to know what happened in Floyd's case. 

 As for the original OP, I think the larger theme we're hearing goes to a lack of racial diversity in the department and/or on the football staff. While certain individual complaints may not amount to much -- Braylon's especially -- you're seeing a larger theme develop. The football team is composed mostly of black kids; the staff, quite the opposite. This is a valid concern, one that exists throughout college football. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:18 PM | So....more white kids on the (Score:2 Normal)
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So....more white kids on the team in the name of diversity?  No thanks.

 

Jon Runyan plugged my toilet.

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