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July 14th, 2012 at 10:33 AM
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Chris Floyd venting over twitter

Tremendous just retweeted this twitter diatribe by former player Chris Floyd. I am going to reserve judgment until the full story comes out, but I just don't get this.  In the last couple years, we've had similar rants demanding a job for Corwin Brown on the new staff (clearly the AD knew what they were doing), scholarships for relatives (i.e. Braylon Edwards), and ex-players injecting themselves into the head coach search process. I appreciate everything these guys did for the program and university, but this just seems a bit much.

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

Moved back to Ann Arbor from DC 3months ago because I was promised a job in the Athletic Department.....

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

I am a former student athlete and National Champion

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

After a promise and 3 months of waiting and interviewing and waiting more, they go and hire someone else....Leaders and Best? SMH

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

Still, My loyalty is with Michigan. I'll always support one of my favorite people, Coach Hoke any way I can....

Chris Floyd ‏@cmikeflo

There is a serious disconnect between the athletic department and the athletic alumni and they wonder why we don't come back or give back!

 

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
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Never good

Just another problem with social media... This is something that should be taken care of behind closed doors.  Not knowing the whole story I won't try and determine who is right and who is wrong but this stuff needs to stay private.  I hate twitter

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
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Well said...

In the right hands, Twitter may be the best current source of immediate news and sound bites... in the wrong hands, it is nothing less than a total, unmitigated disaster.

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July 14th, 2012 at 4:57 PM
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I like it

I like Twitter, and the internet in general, because it gives a public voice to those who might not otherwise have one.  In "the old days," this would have been buried.  I know it's "dirty laundry that should be kept private" to some, but I'm all for transparency in any state organization, no matter where it gets its funding.

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
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How many things in our

How many things in our country are illegal because they're "dangerous" when not used correctly?  Problem is, the people who abuse these things often do more damage than the good people do who use them correctly.  I would argue Twitter is one of those things.

Now, I'm not saying it should be illegal, but I do believe that it brings more harm than good.

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:09 PM
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Twittah

Agreed -- I don't know of a better way to see the beast (the WWW) breathing.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
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Sorry, don't feel bad.

Aww, he was promised a job before the hiring process was actually done and they wound up going with someone else?  I feel so bad for him.  I guess being a national champion qualifies you for all kinds of jobs.  Without knowing the whole background, I hope the university did its due diligence and went with the best candidate rather than just giving a wink and a nod to someone.  

No one should have "promised" him the job in the first place of course, but still.  I have been passed over for a lot of jobs and no one should be gifted one.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:07 PM
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I know Chris personally, and

I know Chris personally, and he is a great guy.  No ordinary schmoe gets to marry Gabrielle Union for a while after all.  Your comments completely disregard any concept of Michigan "FAMILY."  Chris Floyd was a leading cog in the '97 championship team, and is revered, or should be, in Ann Arbor.  Does that mean insta-job?  No.  But if he's told he was promised a job, one can understand his disappointment, tempered by his Tweetting a confirmed continued allegiance to Michigan.

The man was venting steam.  I would too if I felt I was promised a job and it wasn't delivered.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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Somebody who vents steam

Somebody who vents steam publicly on Twitter is probably not somebody I want to hire for a position involving responsibility.

Life in the real world outside the bubble of football is tough. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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You are talking about the wrong Chris

Chris Howard married Gabrielle Union, not Chris Floyd. Which one is your personal friend?

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
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 BOOM!!! Roasted

 BOOM!!! Roasted

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:51 PM
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Really??

You probably don't know him that well.  If you did, you would know that it was actually Chris Howard that married Gabrielle Union, not Chris Floyd.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
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If you think you have a job (

If you think you have a job ( especially a job in such a high profile area) because you were promised it and not because you signed a contract, then you probably don't deserve the job.



Moving before you even know if you have the job? Wow. There's many qualified people in the world and not all of them went to UM. You get the job if ypu're the best candidate, not if you have the most past relationships. Geez, this is Life 101.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
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Really?

In plenty of cases relationships are more important than actual skills.

You learn this in life 301 where reality is meshed with poetic visions of how life should be.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:07 PM
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I wasn't clear. I meant you

I wasn't clear. I meant you shouldn't move before you know something for sure - that's life 101.



I agree relationships are crucial in getting a foot in the door - both my jobs I was hired for I got interviewed because of a UM connection at the employer. Yet, I still had to beat other qualified candidates for the positions. And even when one person told me I was a shoe-in I didn't assume anything until an offer was made.



But really the guy proved he wasn't the right guy for the job by his Twitter actions. No employer is going to tolerate that.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
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Reconcile your comments with

Reconcile your comments with the concept of "Michigan Family" if you would.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:13 PM
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I must disagree...

Depending on the nature of the promise, it could constitute an oral contract. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 3:44 PM
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Lol

If he was paid a hundred bucks or less maybe.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
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So being a former student

So being a former student athlete and national champion entitles you to a job? Join the real world Mr. Floyd.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
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Take a step back

He is not saying he "is entitled" to a job. He is saying that he was promised a job. If true, this does rather suck. It not really cool to Pass judgement until we have the facts.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
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Plus, I have to think that

Plus, I have to think that whoever was in charge of the hiring decision heard about those tweets, and is now even more confident they made the proper choice.  I just hope he didn't hurt his chances at other jobs by venting on social media.  

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
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Funny

I am watching 97 ND game and he just destroyed a lb on a mattison blitz pickup and scored a td on a run earlier.



I am glad he is not mad at me.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
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Agreed

I think we need Chris Howard's take on the situation.
Paging Mr. Howard...?

You might want to have a talk with your guy Floyd. Somebody is talking about him and your ex-wife...

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
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He did fumble

On michigan's 30 up 21-14 with about 5 min left in the game, but the d stopped ND on 4th and 2 and the OL and Chris howard destroyed ND on a time eating drive.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
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Also can anyone even confirm this is really Chris Floyd?

I just realized these are the only tweets he has sent out from his account, and he has changed his profile pictures twice. I guess maybe he just started the account to put this out there.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
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Probably it is

based on this: https://twitter.com/simply_sme/status/222927193716690945. Floyd's tweets are now gone, however.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
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Sorry, but there's not nearly

Sorry, but there's not nearly enough information available for people to be commenting on the legitimacy of his frustration (one way or another). Complaints about his public venting might be fair, but again, there's a ton that we don't know.

Hell, I think the most newsworthy thing here is that even when someone is infuriated with the Michigan AD, he still manages to express his love and appreciation for Brady Hoke.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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True

but either way, definitely not the forum for it and won't help you in the future even if he was wronged.  I'm just trying to figure out what job he was even looking for. The only opening on the football staff I can even think of is Roy Manning (graduate assistant), but I thought you actually have to be in graduate school to have that job.

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July 14th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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Regardless of what happened,

Regardless of what happened, best thing is to just keep it to yourself, especially when it comes to social media. No one ever got ahead putting their unhappiness out for all to see. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:37 PM
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I was thinking the same thing

I was thinking the same thing about our AD. I am a little more curious about the tweet stating 'wonder why we don't come back/donate'. Selfishness was not a virtue I thought Lloyd would have espoused.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
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Pathetic

Why would you move to a state without a job? I was told I would get multiple jobs in life if I applied. I didn't get some, and never moved until human resources had my offer in my email. This isn't high school where everyone passes, or sports where nobody is a loser. Our society better toughen up on kids. We are always politically correct and we don't prepare kids for work. Life doesn't work on promises, only action.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
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As others have noted, I'm

As others have noted, I'm going to withhold full judgment until knowing the whole story, but don't complain on twitter about not getting a job if it wasn't in writing.  But my guess is the  "we'd love to have you come in and interview for the position" part that was said was interpretted as "you'll get the job because you used to play for UM", which obviously didn't turn out to be the case.  But this little diatribe will certainly burn bridges at the University, and seems foolish for a guy who is a couple of years older than me and should know better.  

I've been passed over for jobs that I thought should be mine, and I certainly didn't publicly bitch about it.  Sucks to move and all, but that's on him, and his complaints just make him sound like a whiny kid.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
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Way to...

...show restraint from judging without the complete story.



:/

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
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This is the internet - show

This is the internet - show me one person who has displayed restraint and I'll show you someone who hasn't been to a message board.

That said, duly noted.  I will remain steadfast in my belief, though, that bitching on twitter about a missed job opportunity isn't the best course of action for anyone.

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July 14th, 2012 at 9:43 PM
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bronxblue is such a cunt

jk

but you're right about the lack of restraint on message boards. once i thought of that, there was no way i wasn't saying it.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
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we should extend the not

we should extend the not following recruits to not following anyone on twitter to avoid hum bugs

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
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Perfect Example: Spamming for Follow Backs

@MattMo8 Matt, you mind a followback?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 14, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/224148381424029697

@Nate_Starks You mind a followback Nate? Thanks.

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223773516640690176

@DonaldStyles22 You mind a follow back Donald?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223577150446518272

@AlwaysThatMan_ Hey Phillip you mind a followback?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223575199356944385

@D_Branch79 You mind a followback Desmond?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223571544323006464

@D_Branch79 You mind a followback Desmond?

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) July 13, 2012

https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/status/223571544323006464

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
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Playing advocate here, he's not spamming just for follow backs.

All the people he was asking to follow him back were players who he likely wants to interview.  He's probably asking them to follow back, because if they follow him back, then he can send a private 'direct message' on twitter (who you can only send to people who follow you) in order to organize the interview (phone number/email/time of interview etc).

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OMG Shirtless
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No. It's creepy as shit.

It's the exact same message teenage girls send to Justin Bieber.

 

 

 

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:10 PM
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I miss the glory days when

I miss the glory days when the MGoCreeper van as the sole source of recruiting news.  We didn't know how good we had it.

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July 14th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
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Twit...

is short for twitter,,, unfortunately.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:08 PM
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Unfortunately this is kind of

Unfortunately this is kind of surprising because in this day and age seems like it isn't always about what you know anymore, it is about who you know

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
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in this day and age?  try

in this day and age?  try always.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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I'd say if you've actually

I'd say if you've actually been promised a job, by a department you've worked with/for in the past -- especially one with whom you have a strong connection -- it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume they'll make good on the promise. But it's hard to know what happened in Floyd's case. 

 As for the original OP, I think the larger theme we're hearing goes to a lack of racial diversity in the department and/or on the football staff. While certain individual complaints may not amount to much -- Braylon's especially -- you're seeing a larger theme develop. The football team is composed mostly of black kids; the staff, quite the opposite. This is a valid concern, one that exists throughout college football. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
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So....more white kids on the

So....more white kids on the team in the name of diversity?  No thanks.

 

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:46 PM
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Taylor, Jordan and Drew would

Taylor, Jordan and Drew would like a word with you in the back.

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
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Schofield, Roh, Beyer, D

Schofield, Roh, Beyer, D Morgan and J Ryan take offense.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
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Does Ohio State's staff have the same lack of racial diversity?

Funny because I haven't heard a word about it.  What is the average nationally? Because compared to our rivals there seems to be little difference. I don't understand how this claim can be put out there without any evidence.

OSU's staff has 2 black coaches on staff with one a holdover from the previous regime. Michigan's staff has 2 black coaches on staff with one a holdover from the previous regime. Actually Ohio State's situation is worse because both Michigan's graduate assistant coaches are black compared to Ohio State's where both are white.

For further comparison, both Notre Dame and Michigan State have only 3 black coaches on staff each.

Obviously, it has been documented there is a national problem with minority hires in coaching, but to point the finger at only Michigan here seems off base. Was there more minority coaches under Carr's regime? Yes, but it was not a significant difference with it usually being 3 black coaches with 4 at the end. But I am not going to randomly throw this charge out there without hard evidence. Hoke was hired really late in the coaching turnover cycle which probably made it hard to hire quality assistants. Most of the white coaches that Hoke brought on staff were holdover colleagues that had worked with over the years at SDSU and Ball St and that familiarity probably played a role. Hoke kept Fred Jackson and hired Jerry Montgomery and Curt Mallory to complete the staff so most of his final hires were minorities.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:11 PM
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There was no finger pointing...

The poster said its a problem throughout college football...never said it is Michigan's fault or that they are the worst offenders

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:31 PM
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Understand that.

But the point I'm making is I don't hear these complaints at our peer institutions. I don't understand where the claim is coming from or who said it. I was responding to this (which is essentially finger pointing by someone by singling out Michigan) as poster wrote:

"I think the larger theme we're hearing goes to a lack of racial diversity in the department and/or on the football staff."

 

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:27 PM
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Thanks for pointing that out.

Thanks for pointing that out. Correct: I never said the problem is worse at Michigan (because I don't think it is worse). But it's definitely a chronic issue overall. 

Maybe, if we're hearing more veiled complaints by former M players, it's because M players are schooled to be more socially aware and outspoken. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
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I never...

jump on twitter to vent. There needs to be a communiction forum called "Venter" that is just sent out to your inner circle.

Hopefully other opportunities will come up for Chris.

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
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It exists, it's called a text

It exists, it's called a text message

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
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Also...

...that facebook thing, assuming you know how to properly make privacy settings.

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
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There's this other thing too,

There's this other thing too, called the "bar" and "other people" that I've heard good things about.

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
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Kwame K...

texted and look where it got him...

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July 14th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
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Shit happens. Move on. As a

Shit happens. Move on. As a corporate recruiter myself, I never understood backlash with missing out on job opportunities. He now will never have a chance if something new opens in the AD.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
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Good for you. I can't tell

Good for you. I can't tell you how many candidates I have hired for other roles, when they were declined for a different one in the past. A lot can happen: position gets put on hold, hired an internal candidate, etc. Never burn a bridge.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:41 PM
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Good example of remaining

Good example of remaining focused and channeling your anger properly. Well done.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:16 PM
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I don't think anyone should

I don't think anyone should be hired without being qualified, but if you are a qualified candidate and you are a UofM alumn like myself I am hiring you. Part of what makes us special is our incredible alumni base. Chris has a point. You help out fellow alumns whenever you can. It's a large part of why people attend the greatest university in the world. It's the reason why you can walk down the streets of Dubai, Tokyo, Bangladesh or Phoenix and hear Go Blue.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:29 PM
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Chris has a point if the

Chris has a point if the person that hired is not an alumni... which we don't know.

And as much as I think it was a bad decision to burn his bridges via a public rant, I think he has an even bigger point... he contributed to making this university, and specfically the athletic department, oodles and oodles of money as an unpaid student athlete.  I'm not saying that gives him the right to have a guaranteed job as some kind of pay back, but it definitely gives him the right to be mighty pissed off.

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
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Unpaid student athlete?

Unpaid student athete?  There is no such thing.   You must be ignoring the almost $30,000 in tuition, books, meals, bowl trips and extensive alumni network connections the University of Michigan bestowed upon him.  Not bad, for a fullback that rushed for 600+ yards in his career.   Also, playing for Michigan allowed him to have the ability to work with a world class coaching staff, play on network television and get drafted by the NFL.   Kid performed very well at Michigan, and hopefully he learns that life deals some poor hands at times...

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:54 PM
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Not to mention

The best healthcare in existence for the entire time he was there.

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July 14th, 2012 at 1:40 PM
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Sorry he didn't get the job. Sounds tough.

Sounds tough. Don't think his Twitter complaint imperils the program. Could even be seen as a healthy way to let off steam, a stage in the move from denial to anger to acceptance.

 

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:16 PM
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Obviously we don't know the

Obviously we don't know the whole story, but if we assume his tweets are true that he was promised a job and moved to AA based on that promise, I'd be pretty pissed too if I were him.  It's not like he's pissed just because he got passed over, he's pissed because he was told he wasn't being passed over, made lifestyle and financial decisions based on that promise, and was then renegged on.  That would make me pissed off too, especially it it were my alma mater doing it. 

Who knows what the full story is, but to say he's just venting because of sour grapes isn't fair either.

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:18 PM
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a little more info

I sat next to Chris at a fundraiser a couple months ago and he discussed the job op.

I asked him how firm the agreement was, and he said something to the effect of "we've done everything but sign the contract" (put it in quotes but that's a paraphrise.

Obviously...the contract's the key...

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July 14th, 2012 at 2:48 PM
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Assuming he was  promised the

Assuming he was  promised the jog, it's possible this is more about the idiot who did the promising  than it is about Floyd himself. Doesn't promising someone a position during the hiring process violate ethical and legal standards?  We know it happens all the time, but it shouldn't, because when it does occur, it makes the whole hiring process a sham.  

The worst I've ever dealt with was when I was the top candidate for a position and the job opening was canceled, then re-opened with a newly written job description that pretty much excluded me.

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July 14th, 2012 at 4:04 PM
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As I was always chastised for

As I was always chastised for presuming earlier, I'm not going to guess about the circumstances and what promises were conveyed/not.  All I will say is that even a verbal promise, without something in writing, shouldn't be relied upon to the extent that you relocate before officially being offered/signing up for the job.  If it isn't on paper, then I'm always skeptical. 

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July 14th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
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Three things you should never do while job-hunting

1. Bitch about a former employer during a job interview.

2. Bitch in the media about a prospective employer not hiring you.

3. Move to a different city before you've got a signed contract in hand.

I made the stupid mistake of committing #1 many years ago, and Chris committed #2 and #3.

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July 14th, 2012 at 9:52 PM
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seriously??

Is this really a thread? Do people really spend all day on twitter just to know what people are thinking and saying. Go outside and kick rocks or something, find a new hobby.

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