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Chip Kelly to Stay at Oregon

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:17 AM
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Chip Kelly to Stay at Oregon

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7492379/chip-kelly-oregon-ducks-passes-tampa-bay-buccaneers-offer-general-manager-says

 

Apparently talks fell apart when Tampa Bay refused to unveil a new uniform combo each week.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:21 AM
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I would have loved to see how

I would have loved to see how his offense would have worked in the NFL to be honest. I know, everybody thinks the nfl is for 3 yards and a cloud of dust type guys but I just have a feeling that it might of worked.. Hell if tebow can win in the nfl then anything is possible.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 AM
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3 yards and a cloud of dust

The Packers, Patriots, Saints, and Lions all made the playoffs as pass first teams with run games that merely support the pass. Most years the Colts also would have done it as well. The NFL is definitely not a league that just runs the ball.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 AM
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valid point but I was

valid point but I was referring to more the slot ninja meme more then the pro spread concept. Kind of like oregon, undersized but they just never stop. All those teams run a spread and a mild for of the hurry up, or as chris carter calls it the powder huddle. ( run to the line then sit their and call a play, but if the defense is trying to sub just snap the ball) I personally think that if it can work in college, that it would have a chance to work in the pro's with the right personel.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 AM
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How were we supposed to get "slot ninja" from your first post, exactly?

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January 23rd, 2012 at 10:28 AM
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And reading it again, the magic tricks that were the foundation of Denver's offense is a whole lot closer to three yards and a cloud of dust than the norm today in the NFL.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 10:29 AM
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Engrish

Is this your primary language?
of =/= have
then =/= than
their =/= there
personnel

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:23 AM
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plus he could easily get 3

plus he could easily get 3 really good qbs to run his system on the cheap (less then 5 million each)  since the wildcat has lost steam in the NFL and qbs like Randel El and soon to be Denard are considered WRs. He would need that to stem any and all injuries that would sure to occur

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January 23rd, 2012 at 2:41 PM
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Kelly's system is different

Kelly's system is different than RR's.  His QBs don't carry the ball that much.  Darron Thomas hd 56 carries in 13 games last season.  The key is having receivers that can quickly get open and a QB that can quickly identify them.  In a sense it's not that different from what New England does.  I think he could succeed in the NFL - if he can deal with coaching grown men instead of 18-22-year-olds (which is really the bigger hurdle).  

 

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:29 AM
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Good career move

by Kelly. He kicks Pac 12 ass at Oregon and would have been a spectacular failure in the NFL. 

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:32 AM
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I'm just glad that we can

I'm just glad that we can stop talking about how he was going to fail miserably in the NFL. He's been around for only 5 years in the major college game yet everyone knows what offense he would hypothetically run with a completely different crop of talent and a completely different set of circumstances...love it. 

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:36 AM
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Stunner

This is really surprising he is staying. Interesting development...no way Big Phil would let Chip get away i guess.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:35 AM
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http://www.addictedtoquack.co

http://www.addictedtoquack.com/2012/1/23/2726943/chip-kelly-may-be-stayi...

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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:50 AM
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I would have liked to see him

go to Tampa and suck.  I think he's a snake and bad for college football in the same vein as Saban/Tressel.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 10:04 AM
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There's this:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-robinson_scout_details_deal_oregon_kelly_070111

I'm not sure if there's been any resolution to this yet, but the stain will remain.  I like Lyles' own quote from the story:

“I look back at it now and they paid for what they saw as my access and influence with recruits,” Lyles said. “The service I provided went beyond what a scouting service should … I made a mistake and I’m big enough of a man to admit I was wrong.”

Okay.  They didn't pay you $25,000 for the year-old information on recruits that were no longer in high school.  They paid you $25,000 for the influence you have over current recruits?

Yeah.  That's fine.  

Although I do agree that Chip Kelly is a really good coach.  Something stinks here.  

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January 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 AM
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http://www.oregonlive.com/duc

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2011/08/chip_kelly_bristles_in_defense.html

 

I can't embed the interview, but here's the police stop.  Kelly is a weasel.  Contrast the, "we smoked it all" admission of guilt to Kelly's denial.  

 

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January 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 AM
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I guess it's possible the street-agent thing

is a sign Kelly is dirty, but until more info comes out, I'm just gonna consider him a badass.  

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January 23rd, 2012 at 10:30 AM
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Yeah, cheating is the shit, brah! Fist bump!

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January 23rd, 2012 at 10:07 AM
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hmmmmm...

With all his years of professional coaching experience coupled with not having to worry about all the details in the NFL that he has to cover at Oregon (athlete contract negotiations, dealing with their agents/related demands, Nike responsibilities) II would have figured Kelly might have had success at the NFL level if he could find a good defensive coordinator for that level. He is a creative offensive mind.

That said, it seems he is most interested in maintaining his head coach/general manager position with the Ducks. 

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January 23rd, 2012 at 11:23 AM
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The Glazers are cheap

I would imagine that the Glazers didn't offer him anything more than he could extort out of Phil Knight at this point.  

Besides, the NFL is so resistant to change that every win would be regarded as a "fluke," while every loss would be "proof that the spread offense won't work in the NFL."  Look at how Wayne Fontes did with the Lions during their brief flirt with competence, only to get run out of the NFL, taking the Run and Shoot with him.  

I know that Fontes didn't create the Run and Shoot, but he was the only head coach smart enough to use it.  Spreading the field out helps both the passing and running games.  It's no accident that Barry Sanders retired after one year in the neanderthal offense of Bobby Ross.

Ultimately, the only way anyone gets away with the spread in the NFL is to disguise it as 60 minutes of two-minute offense like the Patriots do.   

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January 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 PM
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two words

Steve Spurrier.

This is why the NFL is resistant to change.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 1:15 PM
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Sanders played two years under Ross

1997 (see here) was Barry's best year with 2053 yards. The next year, his last before he retired, he had "only" 1491 yards (see here).

So while I was never impressed with Ross as a coach I don't think we can credit the run-and-shoot with too much of Barry Sander's success.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 AM
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Wonder how that friends quote (about chip being tired of players parents and NCAA oversight) will come back to bite him now.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 11:35 AM
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So does this mean the NCAA

So does this mean the NCAA isn't coming down on Kelly and the Ducks, or is he just jostling for a better spot?  I mean, TB is kind of a tire-fire now, and I'm not sure he would want to start his NFL career there.

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January 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 PM
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http://twitter.com/LSUFreek/s

http://twitter.com/LSUFreek/statuses/161507324182282240

"Chip Kelly's NFL Experience: bit.ly/A2IstJ"

"Is your name Bart?"

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January 23rd, 2012 at 2:06 PM
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I don't follow the NFL that

I don't follow the NFL that closely but I thought Rahim Morris was actually doing a pretty good job. Maybe Kelly didn't want to risk being fired in 2 rebuilding years?

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January 23rd, 2012 at 3:37 PM
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Morris beat zero teams with

Morris beat zero teams with above .500 records last year and lost ten in a row this year....the 10 in a row screams "lost his team" to me. When that happens, I don't care what year you're in...you gotta go. 

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January 23rd, 2012 at 8:07 PM
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I love watching the tenor of

I love watching the tenor of the board shift with the news of the day.

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