Per Chengelis: Darryl Stonum indefinitely suspended

This is a good, informative title.

"Indefinitely" sure doesn't sound like a short term thing.

Hopefully this is a "strike one" offense. That would be a big blow to our offense this fall.

Thats not kicked off though, right? Although if it actually was a DUI, this would be his second, which would probably lead to some harsh punishment.

Oh damn, I was hoping to see his toughness talk in action before I saw the disciplinary talk in action.

This is at least his second such offense.

Hopefully the punishment will fit the "crime". No exceptions, no matter how valuable to the team you are. 

Hopefully this can be corrected by some 5am running of the stadium stairs, Carr style. 

Edit: Saw the update. Ouch.

See ya! If he is in fact guilty of two DUI's...bye! Dont let the door hit you on your way out. Dont want that on this team.

You just killed the OSU Schadenfreude fest I was enjoying today.

Well darn.  UM Football had been riding such a good wave of momentum and positive news.  DIsappointed in Stonum for getting into this situation; as a senior, he should know better.

more from angelique:

@chengelis: Hoke left an opening for Stonum -- "if he fulfills all of the commitments to the legal system and our program"

Maybe he's looking up to Braylon a little too much.

Hmm, if this was MSU, he would have to miss the first day of fall camp.

If this rumor is actually true that it is indeed his second DUI, then he needs to find somewhere else to play. I am sorry if it offends anyone, but I want our program to be held to a high standard. Allowing repeat offenders on such serious offenses the chance to continue to play is a reward for poor behavior. I understand that they are 18-23 year old kids, we need someone to hold them accountable and either they will become men or let them move on.

We cannot complain when other programs turn a blind eye to such behavior and not want better from our program. As an alumnus it is things like this that I hate to see.

So is the consensus opinion this is something new? I hope it's just Hoke saying 'get your shit together, son, and make yourself right for your past offenses.' I hope this isn't something new.

We need to have a high standard program. If a player messes up then the penalties need to be strong to help discourage others from future mistakes. Stonum is a valuable member of the team but for the long term it is best that he be punished.

FWIW @chengelis just tweeted that Hoke will leave a spot for him 2 come back if he "fulfills all of the commitments to the legal system and program"

Just as much as hurting us at receiver this hurts us at the return game. We've had some problems lately in that area and having a returner that is returning is needed.

Well, damn. 

Stonum, you idiot!

This is the first big test Hoke will face. How Hoke handles this will be interesting and he'll likely set a benchmark with it.

guys that i worked with at the stadium is good friends with stonum, and lets just say that he didn't really learn a lot from the first time he got in trouble... there were a few stories of stonum being at a bar and sitting on the bar doing shot after shot after shot...

... it sounds like the kid MAY have some more serious concerns than just having a couple too many drinks before heading home. 

Irrespective of football, hopefully he can get the support he needs if it is serious.

I'm not sure why people are making this out to be more than it is when there is NO proof into what actually he is suspended for... Until we actually no that it is his second offense or just not living up to his responsibilties this kid will be fine. He is one of our best receivers on the team right now. Like it was said he is our elite deep threat. You can throw gallon and Odoms in there but Gallon is a slot receiver and a returner. I trust that Hoke would not have left a spot for him on the team if it was his 2nd DUI in 4 years. Can't we give him the benefit of doubt until we hear what actually happened?

Stonum might be the second most productive Kickoff Returner the program has had since the Howard/Alexander consecutive eras ended. Behind Steve Breaston.

If he is gone, who do we have? Gallon, who was actually good at KOR a year ago, save for two big gaffes: The Penn State muff out of bounds at the 2 and a fumble when plastered by Wisco; Odoms, who has periodically been back there in that spot throughout his three years; Dileo, a lot of folks thought kick returns of some sort would be his ticket to an impact on the field in Ann Arbor, does he get this job fulltime?

Anyone else?

I think we'd be excited about Gallon in this role had he not made key mistakes a year ago. But, it was his first year on the field and with the experience something like the Penn State thing doesnt happen this season. None of the three with experience have shown the explosiveness of Stonum in this role, however.

Well, Hoke said "legal," "serious" and "counseling." So one could conclude that Stonum either committed another offense or messed up with his probation. Bad either way, though I guess a second offense would likely be the worst of the two.

Let's just say, for argument's sake, that it's one or the other. What's a fair punishment? I say it has to be more than the ol' one-game suspension against a cupcake team. That's how hypocrites like Dantonio would handle it. Thoughts? --

I'm not overly concerned about how MSU or OSU handle their in-house problems.  I'm worried about how Michigan handles theirs.  Just my opinion, which could be wrong, but it seems to me Stonum has had multiple chances and has apparently blown many of them.  I would think a multiple-game suspension is probably in order, if for no other reason than for Hoke to demonstrate to the rest of the team how transgressions will be handled.  I don't want to be unfairly hard on Stonum because I don't know all the details, but from the outside looking in it appears some strong discipline is in order.

Unfortunately, Angelique works for the News and not the Freep, so there's no point wondering whether or not the story is even true.

Hope Stonum finally gets the wake-up call this time.

I believe that a DUI is a misdemeanor, but two in five years is a felony.  Could this have something to do with the harshness of the penalty?

It would be best for both us and him. He obviously doesn't have his life straight right now if it involves the legal system a second time, so the best way for him to do that is get away from football. As a fan, I don't care how good he is, he needs to go. Why keep him around if he's going to be such a headache for the team, especially when he's a senior? Let him go and get his life straight, and let an underclassmen step in atry to fill the whole and develop. I don't want someone who's dumb enough to get into two major incidents with the law when he's going to one of the greatest universities, academically and athletically, representing us.

I commend Hoke for how he's handleing this though. If this was his second violation under Hoke, I'd say no questions he's gone. But the first one was under RR, so Hoke is probably doing his due diligence, seeing what the kids is like, and seeing if he can help him better than RR did.

Could this have anything to do with the roomate of the player smoking weed and sexual harrasment charge?j/w

There is a mysterious pain in my groin region...

Given the amount that we trash State for their "punishments", especially on repeat offenders, I hope Hoke deals with this like the class act man he was brought in to be. This means that if this is a second DUI for Stonum, the punishment may be dismissal from the team. It would be a serious blow to our WR core, but if Stonum repeatedly puts himself before the team and gets in trouble like this, we're better off without him. We'll find somebody to step up and take his place.

On the legal side, I don't care if it's a felony or a misdemeanor, driving under the influence is one crime that there should be no tolerance for. You're choosing your convenience over everybody else's lives, and the punishment for it should be severe. 

Has anyone heard when the official punishment is likely to come down?

another DUI he needs to be gone. period.

that being said if its anything alcohol related it needs to be seriously considered. as he seems to have trouble with the law. and we cannot satnd for that.

no one person is above the team, or the law.

I work with Judge Creal quite a bit and she is very fair and light when it comes to youths.  If it turns out that Stonum has some more jail time, he must have really messed up.  Sucks, I was really looking forward to Denard hitting him on beautiful PA's.

before the season, but I don't think it will happen.  Sounds like the issue is pretty serious.

One strike IMHO  is too  much for DUI.  But I understand giving everyone a second chance.

But no third strike.  

We shall see how it works out. 

Another reason why I regret not taking Lucien last year. 

spring game... oh wait this is Ann Arbor.

He got a DUI ! Destroy him and his future! Ban Alcohol!

I personally think drinking should be allowed for younger kids, but only under the supervision of their parents. This kills cool factor a little bit, and kids might actually learn how to drink from people who are not 21 years old. 

I also think a DUI comes with pretty strict penalties, too. So I think a DUI and getting kicked off the team would be too harsh, but I'm not familiar with his history. Sounds like he should be getting something pretty harsh... 

2nd DUI has been confirmed.  Sorry to say, that should be it for him.

It must have been cinco de mayo night, I saw him at charley's that nite...

That's too bad. A second DUI, plus a couple probation-related infractions, leaves Hoke in a put-up-or-shut situation. He can pull a Dantonio/Kelly and give lip-service. Or he can do the right thing. Stonum, sadly, deserves way more than some lame suspension from practice and a game or two; he should be facing, at minimum, a 5-game suspension. Frankly, he's lucky if he's still got a scholarship after this. I doubt Hoke wants to be seen as a Dantonio.

There is a thin line for Hoke to walk here. I agree with a minimum suspension. At least 5 games, and that's IF he can turn his life around/fulfill his obligations.

At the same time though, I am against dismissal. He needs his team more than ever right now. Ideally, football will keep him in school and working towards a degree. Take that away from him and he's likely just another hard luck story.

I want my team to represent the school well. And maybe Stonum has lost that privilege to represent on the field. We'll see. But part of what I want out of my school is to see that we don't abandon a young man just because he can no longer contribute to a revenue sport.

I hope he has the opportunity to graduate, and that is best done by not removing him from the team. But at the same time, I think a standard for discipline has to be set. And I think Hoke gets that.

...a second DUI will almost certainly carry some real jail time. As I read Hoke's statement giving DS a window of opportunity, I believe that DS is going to have to do some serious AA-type work after he serves whatever time he'll have to serve, and really show he has the tools to stay on the wagon.  Two DUIs when you have so much to lose really indicates a real drinking problem, as other posters have pointed out.

On a lighter note, here come's our first tally in this year's Fulmer Cup!

It's his 2nd DUI, unacceptable! We're no better than MSU keeping their amatuer Kimbo Slices on the team if he is allowed to stay.

BTW what I do know is that Round 1 of Hoke vs DB begins!

Hoke is wanting another chance for him, DB says he's gone.