"Cheering For Cheaters" column on OSU-M game

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November 29th, 2012 at 6:16 PM
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bml
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"Cheering For Cheaters" column on OSU-M game

More from my evil colleague Jack. I apologize for not having killed him yet.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/cheering-for-cheaters-an-ohio-state-fan-...

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November 29th, 2012 at 6:17 PM | (In my defense, I'm doing my part.) (Score:1 Normal)
bml
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There's this from the fall:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bml/the-most-scientifically-perfect-football-hyp...

And a small slag in here:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bml/does-football-have-a-liberal-bias

November 29th, 2012 at 6:23 PM | As far as wanting a piece of ND... (Score:5 Normal)
Erik_in_Dayton
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OSU should be glad in a sense that their perfect season is protected by the bowl ban.  I suppose I could see them beating ND, but OSU is not one of the best five teams in the country in my estimation.  I think they would be smoked by Alabama, for example. 

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

November 29th, 2012 at 6:45 PM | Projections (Score:-1 Overrated)
November 29th, 2012 at 9:02 PM | Another factor: when you play them. (Score:5 Normal)
Engin77
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'Bama played A&M at home the week after a hard fought road win against LSU. Given 4-5 weeks to prepare and focus, my money is on the Crimson Tide, whoever they meet in their bowl.

Taking it one week at a time

November 29th, 2012 at 6:44 PM | This is the problem with the OSU fanbase (Score:5 Normal)
EZMIKEP
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The article sickens me. Show a little humbleness and then at the end revert to winning is everything. No matter if its without integrity.

If I grew up watching Bo kick Ohio States ass and then POOF it was all taken away from scandal and threw a dark cloud over the program in terms of moral integrity then I'd hate him. Because I'd never EVER have a conversation about anything we did ever again without CHEATER getting brought up.

The fact that they homered that slimy bastard a year after he was caught and disgraced the program is insane. It fits them well. No matter what anyone says.

If Michigan ever reaches the mountain top again and wins a national title in the future I will take great pride that they did it the right way.

Who else can say that??

November 29th, 2012 at 9:48 PM | Cosign... (Score:2 Normal)
Tater
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I agree, EZMIKEP, and that is exactly why I take Chris Webber to task every time he is mentioned here.  Even when things suck at Michigan, we have always been able to say that we cheer for a team that does things right: at least until Webber arrived. 

But I would still like to see paying players made legal so Michigan can compete on an even playing field with teams that chronically cheat and refuse to stop, even while on probation.

 

 

 

November 30th, 2012 at 10:01 AM | Honest question: Do you (Score:2)
Logan88
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Honest question: Do you believe that the NCAA changing the rules to provide a monetary stipend for college athletes would prevent rogue teams from providing additional benefits on top of the allowed stipend to their players? I don't.

Nothing would really change except that the players would now get their legally sanctioned pay plus their improper benefits and the teams that are willing to provide those extra benefits would still enjoy a recruiting advantage over the teams that do not.

 

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

November 29th, 2012 at 6:45 PM | You know what (Score:5 Normal)
EZMIKEP
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I need another post. FUCK THEM.

November 29th, 2012 at 6:48 PM | Nothing special here... (Score:5 Normal)
Glen Masons Hot Wife
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An Ohio State fan is disgusted with Tressel, then sees him being honored, still can't help but like the guy.

This post is being used as an excuse for us to check out this guy's web site.

I guess I wouldn't mind so much if the article didn't feel like amateur hour.

November 29th, 2012 at 7:07 PM | It's not "my" website. (Score:-1 Trolling)
November 29th, 2012 at 7:57 PM | Haha, you troll. Columbus (Score:-1 Flamebait)
November 29th, 2012 at 7:39 PM | This article... (Score:5 Normal)
trublue616
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SUCKED!!

November 29th, 2012 at 6:52 PM | Can't wait! (Score:1)
Michiganmad
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I can't wait until Ohio gets caught again. The NCAA will no longer be able to turn a blind eye to anymore rules infractions. I would be very concerned if I was a Ohio fan with Urban Meyers as coach.

Coach Hoke says "Hi"!

November 29th, 2012 at 7:08 PM | Urban Meyers is nothing (Score:3 Normal)
DIABEETUS
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Urban Meyers is nothing compared to Bradies Hokes, for sure.

Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU:  68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC:  20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<

November 29th, 2012 at 7:15 PM | I wouldn't say that until Hoke can beat Meyer... (Score:-1 Normal)
November 29th, 2012 at 7:58 PM | Over your head. (Score:1 Trolling)
buckeyejonross
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Over your head.

"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs

November 29th, 2012 at 9:30 PM | A Buckeye caught on faster than you did (Score:4 Funny)
Glen Masons Hot Wife
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step it up Windy City

November 29th, 2012 at 7:37 PM | Whoa... (Score:3 Normal)
trublue616
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This story started out o.k and then went to shit REAL fast. F* you Gene Smith, F* you Jim Tressel, and most importantly, F* the whole state of Ohio and their truly shitty ass fan base. May that dark cloud loom over your shit hole of a university!! Cheaters!!!

November 29th, 2012 at 7:59 PM | !! (Score:-1 Trolling)
November 29th, 2012 at 8:45 PM | Wait wait I'm confused. What (Score:3 Normal)
ChopBlock
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Wait wait I'm confused. What does F* mean?

"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"

"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"

~George Walden

November 29th, 2012 at 8:56 PM | I think that's a new grade (Score:5 Normal)
MichNukeEng
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called 'F-star'. It's given out to any OSU student athlete that will give their teacher sports equipment/memorabilia, and transitions an otherwise GPA-counted failing grade into a pass on a pass-fail scale.

#TPryor'd

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

November 29th, 2012 at 7:51 PM | Ohio State fans and the Joe (Score:5 Normal)
Itsahilger
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Ohio State fans and the Joe Paterno followers at Penn State are in a league of their own. Never have I seen people not "get it" and celebrate the people who knew full well what they were doing (or weren't doing) was wrong.

November 29th, 2012 at 7:58 PM | Let's not compare the two. (Score:-1 Normal)
November 29th, 2012 at 8:14 PM | With all due respect, I wish (Score:5 Normal)
bklein09
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With all due respect, I wish you'd never say anything else on this blog ever again. It would be a better place.



I said with all do respect, so you can't take offense to my comment.

Those Who Stay...

November 29th, 2012 at 8:32 PM | HAHAHAHAHAHA. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
November 29th, 2012 at 8:39 PM | While I disagree about our Buckeye friend (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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You are right that he can't be mad. It's in the Geneva Convention

I am being Twitters

November 29th, 2012 at 8:19 PM | I appreciate your insights. (Score:1 Flamebait)
mgoviking5
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I appreciate your insights.

Hail To the Victors...In Ohio

November 29th, 2012 at 8:40 PM | Agreed (Score:0 Normal)
November 29th, 2012 at 8:50 PM | I think you missed my point. (Score:4 Normal)
Itsahilger
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I think you missed my point. I'm not comparing the wrong doings of Joe Paterno and Jim Tressel. I'm saying that large groups of people in both fan bases believe(d) that Tressel and Paterno did no wrong.

November 29th, 2012 at 8:54 PM | They both did wrong. But the (Score:-1 Offtopic)
November 29th, 2012 at 9:09 PM | He isn't comparing the two sets of actions. (Score:4 Normal)
LB
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He is speaking to the reactions and viewpoints of the respective fan bases.

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

November 29th, 2012 at 8:11 PM | Beyond me why the writer wants to parade his virtue, then (Score:3 Normal)
MGlobules
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does a U-turn and expects the reader to respect him. Guess his brain works a little bit different from mine. Tressel on the shoulders of his old team in front of 100,000 adoring fans that just got f'd over by him was one of the most numbingly distasteful moments of mass stupid in any sector of American life that I can remember. When people begin to glory in immorality we've got problems. 

And blaming Gene Smith INSTEAD of Tressel? Really? There's a reason you have to be smarter to get into UM. 

November 29th, 2012 at 8:11 PM | I understand the Michigan (Score:0 Normal)
November 29th, 2012 at 8:17 PM | It the low-life quality of the cheating, (Score:3 Normal)
MGlobules
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and the lying on top of it. People don't become wildly curious about how virtuous you were the rest of your life when you make clear you are a bum. No one gives a crap whether he was OTHERWISE clean or not, especially when he made a big shuck out of his godly virtue. Too many of that kind of lizard around to begin with. 

November 29th, 2012 at 8:36 PM | And I don't disagree with (Score:-1 Trolling)
November 29th, 2012 at 8:57 PM | Mmm Hmm. Okay, but... (Score:3 Normal)
Njia
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I know it's fashionable to make that point, but consider a case where a spouse has been caught cheating and insists, "I have never done something like this before, I swear!" If you're the philanderer's wife or husband, do you believe the line? You might, but what if other people stepped forward and said that they, too, had been with your spouse? What if you had found suspicious credit card receipts, emails, texts, phone calls, etc. Would you still believe it? You might not have DNA evidence beyond the shadow of a doubt, but the circumstantial evidence would still make a pretty strong case.

"If life is the road, then Ohio is simply a place to stop for gas." -- Scott Burgess, Detroit News, 9/16/2010
November 29th, 2012 at 10:31 PM | Maurice Clarett (Score:3 Interesting)
TVBLUE
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Troy Smith

November 30th, 2012 at 1:37 AM | Tressel didn't cover either (Score:0 Trolling)
November 29th, 2012 at 8:37 PM | Sort of this. It's more a (Score:3 Normal)
jscbus
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Sort of this. It's more a knock on the fan base, since the majority of Ohio fans still defend Tressel's involvement in anything...vehemently. Frankly, I'm one to believe that Tressel allowed more wrongdoings behind closed doors more than the contrary, due to his direct lack of accountability and overall surreptitiousness. The fanbase reveres this kind of character, though; referencing the 9-1 record against Michigan as Tressel's primary, notable accolade.

Not seeing the significant ways Ohio could've gained an competitive advantage throughout all those years (even committing "mishaps") is naive/obtuse. It's certainly making the "means" justifiable, and it's bullshit.

Same thing for "THE" OSU, it's not. Because of your undeserving self-sense of entitlement or "achievement", you are considered to be "Ohio". That is all. 

November 29th, 2012 at 8:52 PM | It's just the University's (Score:-1 Trolling)
November 29th, 2012 at 9:01 PM | Not saying you, in (Score:1)
jscbus
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Not saying you, in particular, but make sure the majority of OSU fans don't feel the need to inform me every time I say, "OSU" or "Ohio State University", to add "THE". Just like that, too. "THE". And I wouldn't have brought up the helmets, either. Completely different discussion and not too supportable in this case (fans).

November 30th, 2012 at 7:15 AM | The name doesn't make any grammatical sense (Score:2 Normal)
TyrannousLex
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The refers to university, so any university of a state (eg. The University of Rhode Island) needs the article. "University of Rhode Island admits 4,000 students every year." The, when placed in front of a university that also includes State in its title is at best cumbersome. "Rhode Island State University admits 4,000 students every year." Or, "The Rhode Island State University admits 4,000 students every year." The first sentence is better in all regards, and the second is both cumbersome and probably incorrect because the definite article implies that Rhode Island State is the only state university in Rhode Island since the article is seperated from what it would normally designate.

Or,  your university was named by a Slavic immigrant with imperfect English skills, as that's a common mistake of Slavic language speakers in English because the major Slavic languages don't use articles. Russians will slap articles randomly and to great comedic effect.

 

November 29th, 2012 at 10:27 PM | Woe betide us--it IS kind of a (Score:1)
MGlobules
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good record against the old arch-rival. Sigh.

November 29th, 2012 at 8:16 PM | Looks like I was right in my (Score:1 Normal)
bklein09
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Looks like I was right in my previous comment. It would definitely be better if you weren't making comments. With all due respect of course.

Those Who Stay...

November 29th, 2012 at 8:33 PM | HAHAHAHAHAHA. (Score:-1 Trolling)
November 29th, 2012 at 8:37 PM | He offerred an opposing (Score:3 Normal)
Undefined
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He offerred an opposing viewpoint on the matter we probably wouldn't otherwise see. I don't see a single problem with either one of his posts, they aren't offensive or meant to stir up issues.

 

I might be alone here, but I enjoy hearing what fans of other teams have to say. Even the Buckeyes.

November 29th, 2012 at 8:48 PM | THIS GUY. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
November 29th, 2012 at 9:34 PM | He is the enemy. I hate him. (Score:3 Normal)
Glen Masons Hot Wife
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what if he is sypying on our board and sharing our info with Bucknuts and the football team.

November 29th, 2012 at 8:34 PM | NCAA (Score:5 Normal)
DirkMcGurk
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They are a joke. They pick and choose what to enforce. Mo Clarett said things he did or got. The reality is unless the NCAA has hard evidence they can't hit a program. NCAA is a joke.

November 29th, 2012 at 8:53 PM | The NCAA investigated those (Score:-1 Trolling)
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