A sham of a mockery of a charge of a block.
A sham of a mockery of a charge of a block.
Don't spot us a double digit halftime lead and count on the refs to bail you out.
My opinion? Block. But there are a half dozen calls like that along a razor's edge in every game. One call never decides a game. I can only assume the only ones 'really' complaining about it are SU (legit) and Sparty (Lil brother complex). So to anyone who complains, I ask, shall we go through every film of every championship game team and dissect every call that could have gone the other way? Shall we put every call even in this game under the microscope? Grow up. SU only has them self to blame for not making shots. We have our self to blame for it even being close for not making shots as well and missing free throws.
Amen. Even if it is a block no guarantee of anything. Too many other calls.
I think a lot of calls could have gone one way or the other, and this is just one of many. It's absolutely ridiculous that ESPN has latched on to this play as if makes a difference. One other 50/50 call going our way earlier in the game, and this call could've been irrelevant. That being said, I personally think it should've been a no call, but refs seem to think all drives that end in contact must end in a foul.
Same thing with previous game - WSU only had a chance to make a prayer at the end and they blame the held ball call.
But then again hardaway got fouled at the end without getting a call. So did Trey on a pull-up jumper in the lane. Too many plays in the game to focus on one just because it occurred with 0:20 left
And again, that wasn't nearly as controversial as the jump ball in the previous game, but has everyone forgot about that already?
in a 40 minute game, one play does not make the game. no matter how much you may want to discuss the impact of one play, its the compilation of every play and every minute that makes a difference. this call may go one way or another, but in the end Michigan wins.
I thought Morgan got there a split second late, but the fact that Triche was a little out of control made it easy to call the charge.
It sucked for me. I wanted to win without any bullshit like this. I honestly thought it was a block in slow-mo, charge in real time, and it kind of took away from my happiness when Morgan finally finished a dunk. But if we would've made our damn free throws --- wait, where the hell was Stauskas? He didn't play the second half, and he finished with 0 points... Sonofabitch must've been eating subs...
You must lead a miserable life.
Charge - guy was way out of control.
And how many free whacks did they get on McGary's face?
Charge. Yeah, he moved slightly to the side, but that's OK - you don't have to be 100% stationary. You have to be in position, and outside of the circle, and he was.
I say both sides had a lot they could complain about, but in the end we had five more points than they did, and we're playing for it all on Monday night
an argument could be made either way. I don't think anyone could watch it at full speed and say for a fact what the correct call was. whatever the ref called is the correct call because it is a judgement call.
Who cares? We won.
Really do wish they would do away with charges. It would've been so much sweeter to see Morgan play D and swat away the layup...
Do away with charges?
Nah. Pretty sure every team would exploit that. When its a charge, its a charge.
Better yet: do away with layups. Only jumpshots. Uncontested jumpshots. Matter of fact, no defenders of any kind. Now THAT'S how you solve controversial foul calls!
I'll be honest, you confuse me.
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You can't do away with the charge call. How could anyone play defense if the offense is free to knock them down?
Officials need to be more consistent applying it, but it's an essential rule.
With that said, I can arbitrarily pick a number of questionable calls that, had they gone Michigan's way, would have made the block/charge irrelevant.
His chest was square to the shooter for about 5 seconds before he barreled into him. He is allowed to move laterally to maintain legal guarding position.
Yep. There is a huge and unfortunate misconception by many that a charge only occurs when the defender is stationary. Blasting through someone's chest is almost always a charge, regardless of whether ones feet are moving. You beat someone to a spot, you have a right to be there.
Triche himself just said in the presser that he should have pulled up and shot or passed, because he saw Morgan there. He said if it wasn't a charge, it should have been a no-call. Given LeVert picked up the rebound, no effect on the game.
I want to discuss the ~20+ other blocks Syracuse made at Mid-Court or ecspecially on the baseline where they were actually slapping guys or shoving them out of bounds. Those weren't called.
Why does it seem that a close call at the end of the game, is always deemed to decide the game. If Syracuse was not allowed to push, shove, slap, hack and what ever you want to call what they did to McGary's face. This game isn't even close enough for that call to matter. If were going to discuss officiating then, discuss every bad call or no call. Otherwise whats it matter?
In general the officiating was horrible the whole game, I don't mind no calls or physical play, but if your going to call it, be consistant.
My opinion don't put urself in a situation where you need the refs to bail you out.
Other than the strike zone in baseball, the charge/block call is the most subjective in sports. The bottom line, it was a charge b/c the ref thought it was.
on both of em. Eject everyone
Prob block but they were hacking us and we didn't get alot of calls.
I know most of us hate ESPN, but I especially think it's absolute crap that they showed the Boeheim post game interview for a half an hour and only showed Beilein for five minutes!
Jim Boeheim makes much better TV than Beilein. Did you see his presser? It was pretty fantastic as far as pressers go
Boeheim has time to spend talking to ESPN.
Beilein is prepping for the national championship game......
You can dissect the entire game and find blown or missed calls either way. Bottom line, we scored more points. Kudos to the the play we got off the bench and once again.... Fuck them.
The dumbest thing about the whole situation is that the guy was out of control, was no where close to making a basket, and we got the rebound.
Do I think it was a charge? No. Would it have been a hilarious injustice to bail out a terrible offensive play based on an extremely subjective call? Most definitely.
I really wish the refs just didn't call anything because then there would be no controversy and the outcome would be the same. I don't see why they feel the need to call a foul one way or the other every time a guy drives to the basket.
My opinion is scoreboard bitch
With all this money in college basketball can we get or devlop some good refs.
Also if that was big ten refs, that time CJ Fair slap to Mitch's face would have been a 3 hour review sesh
Would you now like to got back and re-call every close play in the game? Come on, that's for the losers.
For the record it was a charge - check the game stats.
Well, Tim was fouled on that fast break attempt. Also, I thought I saw Trey get pushed on a play where one of their players got an O-rebound and converted. The Triche 3-point-play was a questionable foul as well. These plays happened within the last five or so minutes. Quite ignorant to focus more on a foul just because it happened a couple minutes later in the game. They can't take anything away from this win, we earned it.
The no-call on the THJ fast break was infuriating
I'm just glad we were on the right side of it
The way they call the game now. Not that ita right , this will be the biggest change in officiating next year, you have to give the offense a place to land. It's almost become a reward for bad or slow defense. Tough defenders make it hard to call the other way, who wants to see kids run over, but it's become a theme in the last few years. Go blue Monday.
As in the Louisville - Witcha St. game, the refs need to not make the game about themselves late in the game.
Put the whistle in your pocket. Sometimes . . . don't call anything.
Agreed. He missed the shot and we rebounded it anyway. Would have put us in the same situation. The only change would have been Triche still in the game.
It was obviously a charge. That's what the refs called. There was a whole lot of contact out of the 'Cuse guards on the press that wasn't called too. So maybe that was a give back. Who knows/who cares. The final scoreboard said we have more points. End of the night that's what counts. Go BLUE!!!
looked like a block. Call could have gone either way. I thought there were at least three times when we were trying to inbound the ball in the last few minutes when they simply HELD players and nothing was called.
As much as I disagree with Doug Gottlieb, he was right about one thing, the refs were incredibly inconsistent in the game. In the end it benefitted us! So Cool!
We're playin' for the NATIONAL CHAMIONSHIP!!! GO BLUE!!! baby.
Threads like this remind me of RCMB.