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Channel 4-WDIV: Tate to announce transfer (video)

Rewound DVR and recorded it.  Badly.  With poor audio, so turn up your speakers if interested...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZViRBV-Ews

Who knows how true it is.  Hope it's not.

 

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:39 PM | What the hell is 'Sports (Score:1)
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What the hell is 'Sports Final Edition'?

Sorry, I'm going to trust TomVH and ... Tate's dad.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:42 PM | It's a local late night local (Score:1)
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It's a local late night sports roundup type show either on channel 4 or 7 (can't remember) in Detroit.

 

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:41 PM | Channel 4, WDIV in Detroit.  (Score:1)
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Channel 4, WDIV in Detroit.  Sunday night sports show at 11:30 after the news.

No need to be "sorry" David.  Just found it interesting they led with this breaking news.

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September 6th, 2010 at 12:05 AM | Can you edit the thread (Score:1)
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Can you edit the thread title? I'd change it to "Channel 4-WDIV" instead of "Sports Final Edition" to make it clearer to people who exactly is saying this. Not sure if you can edit thread titles though.

Not so fast my friend!

...Ok, so maybe that fast.

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September 6th, 2010 at 12:07 AM | Thanks for the advice.  Done. (Score:1)
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Thanks for the advice.  Done.

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September 6th, 2010 at 10:20 AM | im confused.. (Score:1)
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So they are saying he transfered or he is going to announce that he is?

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September 6th, 2010 at 8:13 AM | You are very naive #1. While WDIV may be wrong.... (Score:1)
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There is no reason to believe one word coming out of Tate's mouth or his dad's. It is completely in his best interest to say nothing other than "Tate is never transferring".....for multiple reasons I might add.

Maybe he stays, maybe not. But if you or anyone else are counting on him staying becuase of his dad's comments you are nuts.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:39 PM | One more rumor on the pile (Score:1)
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Wake me up when there are papers submitted.

Your friendly neighborhood contrarian.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:44 PM | Can we please stop with (Score:1)
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Can we please stop with this...  I mean it's so speculative at this point and does no good.

For all we know they may not even have a scoop, could have just ran with Tate's "I'm out" comment from yesterday, and deduced that the earliest he'd announce would be tomorrow, then packaged those 2 things together and called it "breaking".

I give TomVH's interview w/ Mr. Forcier 1000 times more weight than this.  

So, hopefully this gets locked.  If he transfers, he transfers, and we can talk about it then.  But in the meantime, speculating and stewing about the possibility does no one any good.

Let's celebrate the win and discuss ND.  

 

CJK5H

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September 6th, 2010 at 12:33 AM | I really gave minimal weight to Mr. Forcier's interview (Score:1)
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I really gave minimal weight to Mr. Forcier's interview.   And not to speak for Tom but I also believe Tom may have been giving it minimal weight as well, vis a vis the disclaimers.  

Why??   The speed in which Mr. Forcier responded told me that he was understandably attempting some measure of damage control.   I mean, he had to know how bad Tate's actions must have appeared before a national television audience.   And what father would not want to change the narrative?    What father would not want to protect their son?    But really, how likely is it that Mr. Forcier managed to have a heart to heart talk with Tate before giving that interview with Tom?    How likely was it that the option of whether or not to transfer or stick it out was discussed with Tate/his advisors/his brothers/etc etc within the short time that Mr. Forcier put out his statements attempting to quash the transfer rumors?   Not likely.    Not likely that such an in -depth and thorough discussion took place with Tate within that very short, roughly 2 hour time span before giving the interview with Tom. 

I believe the real decision about whether to stay or go will come sometime this week.    Possibly even tomorrow.   After Team Forcier has had time to huddle, gather their thoughts and hash this thing out.

That said, I believe that it is not likely that Tate will transfer.   Although the father was clearly attempting to spin the story, one of the things that I gleaned from the father's comments is that the father does not believe  the transfer option to be the panacea that they once thought that it was.   I believe that Mr.Forcier has learned through trial and error to not be so hasty to just pack it in.   And that bodes well for keeping Tate a Wolverine.   

All of this said, I don't believe that any decision would have hit the news this fast and in this way.    I don't believe this news story.    

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September 6th, 2010 at 12:49 AM | I agree.  I hope Tate stays, (Score:1)
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I agree.  I hope Tate stays, but everything i've seen has shown that RRod really cares about his players and does a pretty great job trying to develop them as adults as well as students and football players.  Until I get concrete information otherwise, I'm going to assume there is a damn good reason why he didn't play Tate and that Tate is going to be worse off for leaving at this point than if he stayed and wrestled with whatever is going on that we can see.  Best of luck to him and if he chooses to leave, I'd like to thank him for trying his best last year in a tough year.

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September 6th, 2010 at 2:00 AM | This. Although I disagree on (Score:1)
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This. Although I disagree on Tate's ultimate decision to xfer. Sure, transfers have worked out badly for Jason and Chris... but Tate is that family's last best hope for the glory they clearly want... if Tate doesn't believe he has a chance at re-earning the starting job, I bet he leaves.

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September 6th, 2010 at 2:21 AM | I could buy that.  It's still (Score:1)
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I could buy that.  It's still speculative but definitely plausible.

 

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September 6th, 2010 at 3:13 AM | I think it's pretty legit (Score:1)
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I think it's pretty legit when a local news station feels comfortable enough to break a story.  This isn't the Detroit Free Press we are talking about here.  WDIV doesn't use the shock and awe approach to gain viewership.  Our local news stations build off reputation.  Just my two cents.

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September 6th, 2010 at 3:18 AM | Just read a little further (Score:1)
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Just read a little further down that Channel 4 is affiliated with the Freep.  Woooops. lol

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:41 PM | I here there's some hot (Score:1)
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I here there's some hot bikini model working there.

I will believe it when Tom, Tim, or Brian tell me.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:41 PM | WTF are you talking about? (Score:1)
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If your talking about Sports Final Edition on Channel 4 (NBC), I've been watching it the whole time and they didn't even mention Tate's name.

Delete the thread.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:42 PM | Then you missed the first 20 (Score:1)
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Then you missed the first 20 seconds.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:45 PM | No I didn't. (Score:1)
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No I didn't.

Keep believing

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:50 PM | Here, (Score:1)
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Here!

http://www.youtube.com/user/donh248?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/7ZViRBV-Ews

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:59 PM | My apologies (Score:1)
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But maybe next time you should insert that link when you first make your OP.

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September 6th, 2010 at 3:11 AM | Maybe next time don't be an (Score:1)
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Maybe next time don't be an asshat lol

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:41 PM | If true, I guess he did not listen to his dad (Score:1)
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But instead listened to his brothers...

 

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:41 PM | SFE is on Channel 4 in Detroit (Score:1)
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And please tell me the source is Rob Parker who is wrong much more often than he is correct. I'd much rather see Tate hang in there and get through this as a Wolverine.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:43 PM | How does Rob Parker still (Score:1)
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How does Rob Parker still have gainful employment? Is there no (sports loving) God in the world?

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:48 PM | Rob Parker Comments (Score:1)
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As little credibility Rob Parker has, I have to say it was hilarious watching him ask Rod Marinelli if he wished his daughter had married a better defensive coordinator!

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:41 PM | I agree.  What the hell is (Score:1)
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I agree.  What the hell is Sports Final Edition?

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:41 PM | Yawn. (Score:1)
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Yawn.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:41 PM | Seriously... (Score:1)
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WTF?

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:42 PM | Any TV program that employs (Score:1)
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Any TV program that employs Rob Parker as their insider is inherently untrustworthy

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:44 PM | The Animal (Score:1)
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If it was Rob Schneider, I would believe it. But not Rob Parker. No way.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:47 PM | +1 I can't imagine how (Score:1)
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+1

I can't imagine how aspiring sports reporters feel when they can't find work, and guys like Parker and Albom get caught making stuff up, and keep their jobs.

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September 6th, 2010 at 12:44 AM | We don't know if Rob Parker was involved in this "story." (Score:1)
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But he is a regular contributor to SFE, while not an employee of WDIV.

I had almost forgotten about Parker's fabricated story on the allegation that Kirk Cousins was in a bar fight in East Lansing, when he was, uh, actually in church with his parents:

http://deadspin.com/5070391/a-detroit-columnist-caught-making-stuff-up-surely-not

 

 

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September 6th, 2010 at 12:53 AM | How he didn't lose his job (Score:1)
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How he didn't lose his job and get the shit sued out of him at the same time is beyond me.

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September 6th, 2010 at 3:20 PM | He is an employee of WDIV. (Score:1)
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He is an employee of WDIV. While he's not part of their regular on-air staff (at my last check, anyway), he writes a column for their website.

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September 6th, 2010 at 8:51 PM | I suspect that they call him a "Contributor," and pay him per (Score:1)
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"contibution."  i.e., pay-per column, blog post, show, etc.

The shitty thing about the original story, as is shitty with all anonymously-sourced stories, is we don't know who to attribute it to.  A really good question for WDIV right now is who was their source?  And why does that source need anonymity?

People have gotten so used to anonymous sources, that we have completely forgotten that they were supposed to be rare in journalism.  There is supposed to be a reason, and a stated reason at that, as to why a source is given anonymity.

WDIV didn't even making a passing attempt at that in this case.  She did not say, "This is a report, confirmed by two anonymous sources who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are [team officials who were not authorized to speak]... [friends of Tate Forcier who asked for anonymity]... [University officials who demanded anonymity because they would be in jeopardy of prosecution if they revealed private student information]..." etc.,etc.

This one is really, really weak, by any sensible journalism standards.  It is really hard to think of any good reason for there to be a grant of anonymity in this case.  Which makes the sourcing, and thereby the whole story, totally suspect.

Look, it has been 24 hours.  Even the Freep appears to want to stay away from this story.  The Freep guys are smart; their memories go way back.  All the way back to, say, a couple of weeks ago, when Melanie Collins got her booty in a ringer and had to eat her own Tate-transfer Twitter-rumor.

Wouldn't it be funny as hell, if Tate did this just to f#*& with some of the reporters.  Katrina Hancock, meet Melanie Collins.  And if Rob Parker was involved, so much the better.

I am going to want to hear more about this story when it is confirmed that Tate Forcier is a true 2010 Wolverine.  It should be and willl be a HUGE embarassment to WDIV.

 

 

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:44 PM | Rob Parker and his peeps? (Score:1)
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Hmmm.  I will wait before I start freaking out.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:44 PM | Tom VH... (Score:1)
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what is up Tom? I'll await your clarification...

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:47 PM | He already did... It's on the (Score:1)
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He already did... It's on the front page

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September 6th, 2010 at 12:09 AM | okay... (Score:1)
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...based upon this "current" news as alleged.

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September 6th, 2010 at 12:22 AM | Ahhh... My bad. (Score:1)
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Ahhh... My bad.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:45 PM | Can you express... (Score:1)
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...your certainty as a percentage? Tate's Dad did that, and to be credible your claim has to be more certain than his.

As a matter of fact I like beer.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:59 PM | MY certainty about what Tate (Score:1)
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MY certainty about what Tate will do is 0.  My certainty that Sports Final Edition is leading with "breaking" news that Tate is transferring and will announce as early as tomorrow is 100%, which falls short of Tate's Dad.

 

Jeebus people, just passing along MSM "breaking" news.  I'm not helping the dude pack his bags and driving him to GVSU!

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September 6th, 2010 at 8:49 AM | Apologies for the snark... (Score:1)
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...until you edited your post and title, it looked like you were trolling.

As a matter of fact I like beer.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:46 PM | Silly rumors.... (Score:1)
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I hear Taylor Swift's brother might transfer to Michigan, pending the outcome of Saturday's game.

Touchdown Michigan!

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:48 PM | Oops. (Score:1)
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nevermind.  Stupid new formatting.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:48 PM | well said... (Score:1)
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...of late I am down on the newbs.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:47 PM | Rabble (Score:1)
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Rabble Rabble Rabble.....

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:51 PM | Channel 4 (Score:1)
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Is associated with the Detroit Free Press... just fyi.  In like every other segment it has a link to the Freep.

I'm not sayin... I'm just sayin.

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September 5th, 2010 at 11:58 PM | There are no videos on that (Score:1)
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There are no videos on that youtube page

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