rundown of Michigan's riser
Changes in the Lineup Next Week?
September 2nd, 2012 at 2:48 PM | 
He was playing WILL
He was playing WILL
September 2nd, 2012 at 2:49 PM |
Similar postions...
Similar postions...
FWIW, WILL and MIKE are very similar in this defense. Just like SLB and WDE...also SDE/DT.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
September 2nd, 2012 at 12:43 PM |
Most important line up
Most important line up
Most important line up change: AF in for BAMA
Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:10 PM |
You win the Internets today
You win the Internets today
You win the Internets today IMO.
It was a good challenge and benchmark. Given what we've seen from these guys we know they're fighters and will continue to play hard.
One game does not a season make.
Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:55 PM |
Tell that to
Tell that to
Ohio.
September 2nd, 2012 at 12:45 PM |
Fitz, like Denard, makes the most of space
Fitz, like Denard, makes the most of space
but I don't think his, mad-but-momentum losing jump cuts would have been at all effective. There would have been another Alabama defender there to tackle him.
Denard's and Fitz's effectiveness is proportional to the square of the space they operate in. When there is none, they aren't that effective.
September 2nd, 2012 at 12:48 PM |
Norfleet & DG.
Norfleet & DG.
Yeah regardless of what was going on during the game, I knew when Norfleet touched the ball he was trying very hard to bust it open. That guy is fearless! DG has a bright future as a receiver. I was impressed with what he did last night in his first game as a receiver against that D. Other than that I took no positives from our performance.
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:01 PM |
I don't get how DG is your
I don't get how DG is your
I don't get how DG is your bright spot at WR over Gallon.
The only passes Gallon couldn't catch are when Denard through something drastically over his head.
Yes, DG gives us a sick deep threat - but he could have caught more balls than just 1. He has a lot of work to do as a route runner.
Dennis Norfleet - how could you not love this guy? So much for needing Stonum on kickoff returns. Norfleet = beast.
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:09 PM |
DG is clearly raw, but he was
DG is clearly raw, but he was
DG is clearly raw, but he was also targeted a ton, and usually for good reason. With a little more experience he'll be a threat.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 PM |
Uh ok let's see. He's 6-4 ish
Uh ok let's see. He's 6-4 ish
Uh ok let's see. He's 6-4 ish probably 210 lbs. and a freak of an athlete. It was his first time playing wr in a live game. And don't act like he was playing against some powder puffs. That D. Millner is pretty damn good and a likely AA. Was he perfect with route running or body positioning? No, but who really expected that? There were also times where Denard just couldn't hit him. If you somehow can't see the upside now, just keep watching.
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:29 PM |
Denard missed him on the long
Denard missed him on the long
Denard missed him on the long ball because Denard threw it to where DG was currently running, but for whatever reason DG cut a little bit inside (even though the defender was inside) - which leads me to make the obvious conclusion he ran a poor route.
He's got huge upside and is a freak athlete - let's agree on that. But he's still got a ways to go as a WR. Still, what else could you expect?
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 PM |
Yea and that's my point. He's
Yea and that's my point. He's
Yea and that's my point. He's not complete yet by far but by the time we get into the B10 schedule I think we'll see him turn into that guy. We also have to look at chemistry and timing as that didn't look to good between Denard & receivers.I understand what your saying about Gallon and love how he goes to get the ball at 5'8'' , but he is only 5'8''. Hopefully Roundtree will come to life soon. If not its time to see what the young guys have.
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:17 PM |
I would also add Hagerup
I would also add Hagerup
as a bright spot. He looked more like his old self last night with no horrible punts thrown in.
"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans! Now go out there and make it happen!"
- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 PM |
DG has a lot
DG has a lot
of work to do as a WR. Ran really poor routes. But yes he could be a beast in time.
...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...
September 2nd, 2012 at 12:55 PM |
They should pull denard after
They should pull denard after
They should pull denard after the first quarter (assuming a decent lead) so he can heal. He is going to be sore for a while, and it seems that bellomy is next in the hole. He needs the experience. There is no telling how much garbage time he will get this season with our schedule.
Remember remember the first of september.
"There are many like it, but this one is mine"
September 2nd, 2012 at 12:56 PM |
norfleet was such a beast, i
norfleet was such a beast, i
norfleet was such a beast, i would love to see him in a sproles role. He needs to get in our offense
"What" ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in What?
September 2nd, 2012 at 12:58 PM |
love your profile pic
love your profile pic
love your profile pic
If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant
September 2nd, 2012 at 3:43 PM |
Imagine
Imagine
what he will do against human competition. I'm all Bart Scott about this kid.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:02 PM |
No one looked particularly
No one looked particularly
No one looked particularly good, but I was keying on Morgan most of the second half, and he was getting blown out pretty much every single play.
If you don't ride a camel, you ain't shi'ite.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:02 PM |
Guard?
Guard?
I'll be interested in seeing how well we run next week and whether a change at guard is due.
Masochists can watch the replay on ESPNU right now.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:04 PM |
james ross joe bolden starting.j.t. Floyd omg bench.
james ross joe bolden starting.j.t. Floyd omg bench.
I hate to say it already but demens and Morgan have gotten worse. Demens is just too slow and horrible at blitzing. Morgan isn't talented enough vs good teams going back too last year. Put somebody in for Floyd I've never seen anybody so scared too tackle. Watch the tape he hides behind blockers so he doesn't get trucked. Build for the future and they better off for this year anyway.
Guns are for cowards. Real men fight with their fists or the honor of a sword.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:07 PM |
yea who would we replace
yea who would we replace
yea who would we replace floyd with? Avery? he got burned so many times! Floyd is solid and here to stay
If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:06 PM |
Mealer, Gardner & Rountree
Mealer, Gardner & Rountree
I thought Mealer played a solid game at center. Gardner is going to be a beast at WR... Round tree still has not shown much for the last year 1/2.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:12 PM |
No changed other
No changed other
Than fitz. It's ONE GAME. Against bama. Means nothing for the rest of the season as to how our players perform against non-NFL teams. I would roll with the same unit and not overreact to one game.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 PM |
I agree, but the talent is
I agree, but the talent is
I agree, but the talent is lacking at certain positions, and I maintain that once freshmen like Ross get acclimated to the speed of the college game we'll see a change or two. Not wholesale changes, but changes nonetheless.
If you don't ride a camel, you ain't shi'ite.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:24 PM |
Do you understand the purpose
Do you understand the purpose
Do you understand the purpose of a message board on a sports blog is for?
Vice.com
September 2nd, 2012 at 3:41 PM |
Apparently
Apparently
it is for ending sentences with dangling prepositions.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:21 PM |
Relax, people. It wasn't so
Relax, people. It wasn't so
Relax, people. It wasn't so much that our players played especially poorly. They were just facing a vastly more talented, strong, and experienced team. Nobody on the rest of our schedule is on Bama's level.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:23 PM |
Good news
Good news
Good news: Desmond Howard is back and playing for Michigan.
Bad news: He's playing quarterback.
This is no joke. Denard Robinson is a great person and a gifted athlete. He is miscast at quarterback.
its a big blue world
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:37 PM |
Agree with you. I can
Agree with you. I can
Agree with you. I can understand the coaches being hesitant on putting him at another position mainly because he is the one person on the team that has proven to be a play maker on any given play. I'd love to see a set where Bellomy comes in at qb Gardner at wr and denard in the back field. Maybe set up a screen pass and get him in the open field where he can work his magic. Last night was the closest thing to a true pro style offense we have ran and it blew up in our face.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:49 PM |
If you think Bellomy is going
If you think Bellomy is going
If you think Bellomy is going to come in and be instantly better than senior Denard at QB, you're crazy. Compared to how other QB's have performed against Alabama's defense recently, he actually wasn't too bad. Denard will most definitely be our best asset under center, and has a much stronger arm than Bellomy.
September 2nd, 2012 at 9:09 PM |
In the bowl game vs Bama,
In the bowl game vs Bama,
In the bowl game vs Bama, Kirk Cousins had a qb rating of 100, Denard's was 104 last night. Cousins had minus 56 yards rushing, Denard had 27 yards and a touchdown.
Granted they didn't play against the exact same team, but I'd have to argue that they were bigger/faster/stronger than anything we have in the B10. We cant give up on Denard.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:24 PM |
you know
you know
i think we just leave the lineup alone except for Washington, i say we start Pipkins, other than that it was the first game and we weren't ready for a team like that
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:35 PM |
t-rich
t-rich
Look at the tape I understand we ain't got much but Floyd is another Marcus curry. I understand he's small but he's got better instincts and he ain't scared. Ill admit I'm wrong if he's worse but I tape every game and look for cowards on tackles.
Guns are for cowards. Real men fight with their fists or the honor of a sword.
September 2nd, 2012 at 1:51 PM |
No upperclassman
No upperclassman
I wish we had more upperclassman but we don't. Rich rod killed us his last 2 classes. Talents coming but I hate losing now. Just beat our rivals and possibly contend for a bog ten title and that's good enough this year.
Guns are for cowards. Real men fight with their fists or the honor of a sword.
September 2nd, 2012 at 2:08 PM |
QB? Denard is a zone read QB
QB? Denard is a zone read QB
QB? Denard is a zone read QB only. Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but if he isn't running for 100 + yards then Michigan isn't winning very often. Michigan won't beat great teams with Denard as the QB. He hasn't beat a great team yet at Michigan. He was smoked by the tressel lead OSU teams and beating badly by Sparty. Great kid and human, but not much of a QB. I could care less if hes the all time rushing QB. What's his record as a starter? Mediocre!
September 2nd, 2012 at 2:14 PM |
Nebraska annihilation and an
Nebraska annihilation and an
Nebraska annihilation and an 11-2 season with a bcs bowl victory in the first year under a new coach is mediocre? Please, set the standard higher. Will you be saying the same thing if we lose one more game this year, win the Big Ten title, and make the Rose Bowl?
September 2nd, 2012 at 4:05 PM |
Anytime we play a good team
Anytime we play a good team
Anytime we play a good team Denard plays awful.
Although I am not going to sit here an argue with you, I think you're taking a rather short sighted view, or one that is overly critical of Denard. Look at the best "read option" teams in the nation and you'll see something they all have in common: 1) they have excellent OL's; 2) they have a equally dangerous RB; and 3) they have outside play makers.
Did you notice how much better Denard's game got when Fitz emerged as a legit threat that opposing DC's had to account for? I don't think that Fitz would have made too much of difference last night because Bama was bascially giving Denard the give read then collapsing on the give -- they're that good and well coached. But, it couldn't have really been any worse as he might have popped a couple.
Last night while watching Bama's OL grind our DL into dust, I couldn't help but harken back to the days of old when Michigan's OL would do the same thing. Michigan has one elite OLineman, not 5 like Bama. Everything starts up front, on both sides of the ball. I love watching BTN and seeing those old game where Michigan's OL looked like giants and opened gaping holes of A Train, Biakabatuka, Perry, Hart, et. al. We've not had that for a long time. Unfortunately, RR didn't give us a deep stable of top OLinemen to rely upon. They coming, but it's going to take some time. No matter how fast and elusive Denard is, he cannot run effectively when there aren't holes, and they're aren't going to be holes if the OL cannot get into the second level, simple as that.
When Michigan plays a good team, they beat us in the trenches. When you cannot win the trenches, you lose the game typically. It's not Denard.
Sing to the colors that float in the light;
Hurrah for the Yellow and Blue!
September 2nd, 2012 at 4:10 PM |
So what have you seen from
So what have you seen from
So what have you seen from Bellomy or Gardner that makes you want to play Denard elsewhere? Even if you think Denard can't play QB, the other issue is that you would need a replacement. If you go with Bellomy, then we are back to a freshman QB that might be more accurate, but definitely doesn't have the playmaking ability with his feet or nearly as strong of an arm. If you go with Gardner, then you lose our biggest outside WR threat. Just face it, Denard is our QB, and gives us our best option to win football games this year.
September 2nd, 2012 at 4:25 PM |
The only reason...
The only reason...
Denard doesn't have a great career record are things completely out of his control. He should have been redshirted in 2009, but with the QB scholarship situation he was forced into action. In 2010 he finished sixth in Heisman voting, and the offense certainly didn't lose five games. In 2011 he won eleven games, and we're one game into the 2012 season.
Citing Denard as any type of reason Michigan has struggled the past few years is pretty ridiculous, IMO.
Go Blue!
September 2nd, 2012 at 2:09 PM |
Schofield looks absolutely
Schofield looks absolutely
Schofield looks absolutely horrible, but who else plays there?
September 2nd, 2012 at 2:21 PM |
Schofield isn't horrible. He
Schofield isn't horrible. He
Schofield isn't horrible. He was facing possibly the best 3-4 in college football and they were just worn down. I think it's easy to say that the Michigan LOS was in for a long night. As a player has the size and technique to play well in the big 10 and compete for all conference honors.
"I run like Hayes and I hit like... Shazor"
September 2nd, 2012 at 4:09 PM |
Not denying the talent he was
Not denying the talent he was
Not denying the talent he was facing, but I just watched the whole game again, I know I'm a masochist, and every bad play was due to him
September 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 PM |
Also, Taylor at CB.
Also, Taylor at CB.
I think he is a playmaker with speed. I know Avery will get the reps with Blake out but I would like to see if Taylor can step up and compete for that position. I saw him try and strip the ball on a tackle last night that makes me think with more chances he could help the D make some turnovers.
At this point we need young guys stepping up and taking on bigger roles the same way blake did last year.
"I run like Hayes and I hit like... Shazor"
September 2nd, 2012 at 5:48 PM |
Trying to strip a ball
Trying to strip a ball
Makes you think a guy is ready to jump in and play?
How about making tackles? Covering the man your supposed to be?
September 2nd, 2012 at 3:27 PM |
Hopefully not at left tackle
Hopefully not at left tackle
Hopefully not at left tackle or corner back.
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
September 2nd, 2012 at 4:48 PM |
I'm sick of every player
I'm sick of every player
I'm sick of every player criticism being Negged followed by a reply of 'well it was bama...'
September 2nd, 2012 at 5:02 PM |
If Borges isn't 100%
If Borges isn't 100%
If Borges isn't 100% committed to zone read then I'd replace Denard. He's essentially worthless as qb if he isn't a running threat.
September 2nd, 2012 at 6:08 PM |
To be honest, I didn't see
To be honest, I didn't see
To be honest, I didn't see too many things during that game that make me want people replaced. I saw some good things out of our team and I saw a lot of guys that just got out-played due to size and experience. What I do want to see is Countess back and healthy, Lewan back and healthy, ect ect...
September 2nd, 2012 at 7:43 PM |
It'll be the same lineup I
It'll be the same lineup I
It'll be the same lineup I bet. Save for Countess. He shouldn't be needed the next couple of games unless his injury isn't significant. Also, Toussant will be the starter at RB.
Morgan moved to MIKE instead of Bolden coming in...
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”