I still like Deshone Kizer, but Stewart would be a nice fallback plan.
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Chance Stewart offered by Wisconsin
June 17th, 2012 at 9:01 PM
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Chance Stewart offered by Wisconsin
June 17th, 2012 at 9:04 PM | 
Was it Stewart or Kizer that said
Was it Stewart or Kizer that said
June 17th, 2012 at 9:29 PM |
Ive talked to both of them
Ive talked to both of them
Ive talked to both of them quite a bit and neither seemed worried about it. When I talked to Chance about if he was worried about competition from Shane he said "Not at all. He's a great qb but I like to think I am one too. It's just competition. Which im completely fine with."
June 18th, 2012 at 9:36 AM |
Perfect response. I like his
Perfect response. I like his
Perfect response. I like his confidence. And I believe the coaches frankly explain to the recruits that Michigan is going to bring in top athletes year in and year out.
June 17th, 2012 at 9:33 PM |
What depth!?
What depth!?
What depth!?
"There will be blood on the field and it won't be mine." -KK
June 17th, 2012 at 9:37 PM |
That was what I was about to say
That was what I was about to say
In 2014, only Bellomy and Morris will be left on the roster at QB. True, Morris will be one class above, but depth charts don't get more inviting than that.
June 18th, 2012 at 7:37 AM |
It's possible that Gardner
It's possible that Gardner
It's possible that Gardner will still be around if he gets his redshirt from 2010.
Also, depth charts DO get more inviting than that. See: Michigan 2008.
June 18th, 2012 at 8:08 AM |
Trying to forget that year ever happened
Trying to forget that year ever happened
We had a football team in 2008?
In retrospect though, Rich Rod had a pretty good haul with Denard and Forcier.
June 17th, 2012 at 9:27 PM |
Both would be great options
Both would be great options
Both would be great options
June 17th, 2012 at 9:32 PM |
Not worried
Not worried
It really doesn't matter if schools are offering the top in-state kids early. They know who Michigan is and we're in constant contact with them. As an out of state school, you HAVE to offer early to try to make up some ground, contact, familiarity.
So if Alabama offers Campbell and Wisky offers Stewart...all I can say is "meh."
It's not going to hurt Michigan if they offered either 6 months from now unless those kids were committed.
Just like if we offer a kid from Ohio early and that kid grows up a Buckeye fan. If Ohio offers that kid 6 months after us, they'd still be right there. (I'm talking about freshman and sophomores in HS).
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
June 18th, 2012 at 9:36 AM |
Put it another way, people
Put it another way, people
Put it another way, people would probably be worried if kids Michigan were after DIDN'T have lots of top tier offers, so getting out of state attention this early I see as a good thing.
June 17th, 2012 at 9:40 PM |
Jayru Campbell could be the #
Jayru Campbell could be the #
Jayru Campbell could be the # 1 rated qb in the nation in 2015. I'm glad that he's in our state at a pipeline school.
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June 17th, 2012 at 10:03 PM |
It's possible, but I think
It's possible, but I think
It's possible, but I think David Sills is going to be hard to beat for that honor.
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June 17th, 2012 at 11:32 PM |
Way, way too early to have
Way, way too early to have
Way, way too early to have any idea about this.
June 17th, 2012 at 9:50 PM |
It's gotta be hard for
It's gotta be hard for
It's gotta be hard for bielema to recruit QBs after taking wilson and o'brien basically as free agents. Doesn't show any confidence in the guys he has previously recruited to wisconsin
June 17th, 2012 at 10:01 PM |
Injuries
Injuries
The Wiscosnin QB situation in the past few years has been clouded by injuries. Their last few recruits (before this year's semi-touted freshman B. Houston) have had horrible injury problems. Think Purdue bad. They luckily filled the void with Wilson and O'Brien the past two years. This really isn't about the Wisconsin coaching staff's confidence in the current QB rotation...it's about filling 3-deep QB rotation with scholarship-caliber players.
June 18th, 2012 at 7:17 AM |
In other news...
In other news...
NoChance Jones is still awaiting his first offer.
June 18th, 2012 at 8:42 AM |
As is Deshzero Kizer.
As is Deshzero Kizer.
As is Deshzero Kizer.
June 18th, 2012 at 7:57 AM |
I'm still not sure why
I'm still not sure why
I'm still not sure why everyone is saying Kizer is better then chance. I honestly like chance more. He has a laser of an arm and his huge. Reminds me of Ryan mallet physical tools.
Touchdown Manningham! MICHIGAN WINS!
June 18th, 2012 at 9:15 AM |
Reminds me more of John
Reminds me more of John
Reminds me more of John Navarre. Mallett had a bigger arm than Stewart.
June 18th, 2012 at 12:31 PM |
I call b/s
I call b/s
IMO, Mallett had the strongest arm of any QB to play college football in the past 10 years not named Matthew Stafford or Jay Cutler.
And if we're offering QB Comparisons...I'll say Brock Osweiler/Ben Rothlisberger
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
June 18th, 2012 at 8:33 AM |
I don't think...
I don't think...
I don't think Chance Stewart is a "fall back plan."
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
June 18th, 2012 at 9:17 AM |
QB recruiting
QB recruiting
Regardless of who Borges offers first the kid would be in a great spot. Most likely they take a few QB's and redshirt one in 14, then you get some spacing between them and Morris. If Morris isn't the second coming... then you have someone who has some time in the system to step in. Of course, Bellomy could really progress and Morris is backup for a season more then you get a nice arrangement of QB's and tenure. Need at least two qb's this class.
June 18th, 2012 at 12:22 PM |
5 QB's?!
5 QB's?!
Take 2 QB's in this class? Morris and someone else?
Then take a few QB's in '14?
That's 5 QB's in 2 years...do we plan on recruiting anyone to catch the ball or are we going to run our own Elite 11?
...you never need more than 4 scholarship QBs.
2013
---Devin Gardner (RS Jr.)*
---Russell Bellomy (RS So.)
---Shane Morris (Fr.)
2014
---Devin Gardner (RS Sr.)*
---Russell Bellomy (RS Jr.)
---Shane Morris (RS Fr./So.)
---Chance Stewart (Fr.)
2015
---Russell Bellomy (RS Sr.)
---Shane Morris (RS So./Jr.)
---Chance Stewart (RS Fr.)
---Jayru Campbell (Fr.)
2016
---Shane Morris (RS Jr./Sr.)
---Chance Stewart (RS So.)
---Jayru Campbell (RS Fr.)
---????? ????? (Fr.)
*assuming he gets the RS year
If we recruit 1 QB a year, we'll be fine. 2014 may get a little thin if Gardner isn't here or if he's a fulltime WR. However, adding another freshman QB doesn't help you. I had this discussion with Magnus a month ago regarding this most recent class. Same with '14, adding another QB doesn't help you unless you know he's going to be better than 2 of the 3 in Morris/Bellomy/Stewart. In 2015 you'd get all of them back and you can add a kid like Campbell.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
June 18th, 2012 at 10:11 AM |
I haven't watched film on
I haven't watched film on
I haven't watched film on Stewart yet but two people I know who saw him camp said he's an average talent who has been getting a bit of hype simply because he's a tall in-state QB who competes at lots of camps. One guy compared him to Tim Hiller, the WMU QB from a few years ago. I took the comparison to mean that he can probaly play the position at the D-1 level, but might not be Michigan QB material and that Michigan should probably flex its recruiting muscle to go after other kids in the class.
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June 18th, 2012 at 10:37 AM |
Good talent(potential) with good coaching
Good talent(potential) with good coaching
Can equal Tom Brady... Remember, Coach Hoke said he probably would have been a high 2 or low three star coming out of high school. Whomever we recruit I trust they will do it with dilligence. A lot of eggs are sitting in Morris' basket right now which he is worthy of but there has to be quality depth.
June 18th, 2012 at 11:44 AM |
I don't think that's a
I don't think that's a
I don't think that's a helpful analogy though since you're never going to find a kid with the intangible qualities that made Tom Brady successful based on what the kid does in high school or at camps. Recruiting is simply not an exact-enough science to pull something like that off. The possibility that a kid *could* have intangible qualities that *could* make him the next Tom Brady is not a reason to give him the benefit of the doubt that he possesses them. This is the reason the often-used "but _________ was only a 2/3-star and look how he turned out" is really a horseshit argument to use in defense of a questionable recruitment.
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June 18th, 2012 at 12:34 PM |
Preach.
Preach.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
June 18th, 2012 at 11:55 AM |
But...
But...
knowing 2 guys who have seen him on the camp circuit is a more thorough and risk ameliorating process.
Camps tell you a bit. Films tell you a bit. Seeing them play several times during a season tell you a bit. Just because service "x" analyst says he has a "weaker" arm or is more average doesn't fortify your perspective on him.
Ohh and yes, a kid being a 2 or 3 star who has been solid and progressing annually and looks to be the type that will really have a much higher ceiling in college is a horseshit methodology.
June 18th, 2012 at 12:29 PM |
look, I'm just passing along
look, I'm just passing along
look, I'm just passing along what I have heard. I don't have a perspective on him. I even prefaced my comment by saying that I haven't even watched the kid's film yet. That should be enough right there for anyone to qualify the info I posted and decide how much weight to give it. So I don't really understand why you have sand all up in your vagina about this.
Saying that someone compared a kid to Tim Hiller is not a knock on him. Hiller was a successful D-1 quarterback. But Michigan is one of the few programs with the ability to reach for the stars, rather than just the moon.
The point about comparing a lowly-rated kid to 2/3 star players who succeed is that probability suggests that this is never going to be a helpful comparison. It's like arguing that you have better shot of winning the lottery than the odds suggest because you heard about a guy who bought a single ticket once in his lifetime and won. I'm not even sure why you made the comparison in the first place since I always figured Stewart would be rated a 4-star based on what has been written about him.
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June 18th, 2012 at 6:01 PM |
Sturgis
Sturgis
Gotta consider what kind of team he has around him. Not much. Always running for his life and scrambling is not his forte. He has the qb smarts and size. If he played for any of the state championship caliber teams in Michigan his film would be better, his statistics would be better and his skills would be even more polished than they are. How many class B qb's get Big Ten offers as an incoming junior? I honestly don't know that answer, but just throwing it out for consideration.
June 20th, 2012 at 12:32 AM |
Cool Story Bro
Cool Story Bro
On sunday I broke 2 bats playing baseball, so over my lunch break I went to the only sports store in Sturgis Michigan (where Chance is from). My dad has always told me that he played sports with the guy that owned the store and that he was a really good athlete in high school. I walk in and see the owner and his son, Chance Stewart. I talked to them a little, but forgot to make my Michigan pitch lol. It was a cool break in my long workday.
that they didn't like the depth at QB we have right now?
Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.