CFB "coaching hotseat" poll (Fox Sports)
Fox Sports CFB main page has a simple poll:
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb
Which coach will be under the most pressure to win in 2010? With over 48,000 responses as of right now:
RR - 75%
Dan Hawkins - 10%
Steve Spurrier - 6%
Ron Zook - 4%
Mike Sherman - 4%
That RR tops this list will come as no surprise to anyone, and I suppose an argument could be made that the poll is stacked with Michigan followers/fans. Still, I must say I'm a bit surprised that Hawkins didn't garner more of the vote than he did.
Absent any way of determining who voted, I'm choosing to look at it this way: The next time a Spartan, Buckeye, or other Michigan hater tries to tell you we are no longer relevant, show them this poll. Nearly 50,000 disagree and cared enough to say so.
Maybe that's because most fans don't even know where Hawkins coaches.
Colorado has not been relevant in college football in a while.
Colorado hasn't been relevant because of Hawkins.
Which is why there is no pressure.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
Who cares, deep fry 'em both and chow down.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:23 PM ^
heh heh heh!
The 4 Years Before Hawkins: 29-23 (Under Gary Barnett)
The 4 Years Under Hawkins: 16-33
... Yikes.
We could always ask Toney Clemons what he thinks about the situation...
Colorado was irrelevant long before Hawkins took the job. They were terrible when the rape accusations came out, and that was 2003.
Well, fortunately Fox had the good sense to say where he coaches on their poll. (I figured I didn't have to for the educated folks on this board.)
Also, Colorado was once a powerhouse. None of the other schools (except Michigan, of course) really were. Maybe A&M in some better years.
he'll be coaching intramurals, brother.
the guys who moved "up" from Boise State haven't done well. Hawkins sucks and Dirk Koetter flamed out at Arizona State. Maybe that's why Chris Peterson is in no hurry to move on.
I think those two were credited with success that had a lot to do with the job Peterson did as OC.
It's not like Koetter was a disaster at ASU...actually got them to a bunch of bowl games. And then got an NFL OC job upon leaving. Just wasn't really head coaching material.
Hard to argue that they haven't done even better at Boise since though.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:20 PM ^
by the time Peterson got to BSU. CP may have been the magic behind the Hawk at Boise, though. On that you may be right because Hawkins has lost it in Boulder.
Maybe he can go coach intramurals, Brother
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4T26x6GZEw
Why would I even care to explain whether or not Michigan is relevant? If you're going to gauge relevance by the "number of people who care enough..." just look at generated revenue.
I'd say Miles is under more pressure this year. Richt at Georgia will also be gone if he doesnt get it done this year.
Richt isnt getting fired from UGA.
I'd be willing to wager
When are you not willing to wager lol
That is terribly incorrect.
Mark Richt will not be fired by Georgia if he doesn't 'get it done' this year, whatever that means. He's 90-27 with 2 conference championships, 4 SEC East titles, and 3 BCS appearances (2-1). Additionally, he is 7-2 in bowl games, runs a clean program, and has Georgia in the conversation in the SEC almost every season. Dude lost 2 first round skill players last season and went 8-5, tying for 2nd in the SEC East.
SHUT THE FUCK UP IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
Mrs Richt is that you?
Sheesh, all hostile on the guy for stating his opinion.
I'd just prefer that if you're going to pull an opinion out of your ass, you consider wrapping some facts around it before you let the world smell it.
I'm sorry I yelled.
Angry Man!
Mr. Bateman.
1. Calm the F down.
2. Your recount of Richt's accomplishment leaves out the Lloyd factor that a lot of Michigan fans had beef with. That is, UGA, being loaded up in talent, has consistently failed to show up for big games and has consistently fallen below expectations. So before you spout off your facts in a hostile way, try considering the fact that Richt might be facing criticism from the UGA fanbase in the same way that Carr did from ours.
3. Calm the F down.
I live here in Atlanta and I can tell you that there certainly is some pressure on Richt, despite his list of accomplishments. I wouldn't say his seat is on fire, but his toosh is definitley a little warm.
The fan base of UGA is very rabid (!) and they seem to have an entitlement mindset that UGA is the best program ever in the history of the world and they bark loudly whenever they don't compete for the national championship.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:25 PM ^
Don't you remember how long Lloyd got here? He left on his own terms, otherwise he'd still be here. The fact is, not every team can be a national champion every season. Not every team can be USC or Florida. I think most athletic directors (Save Arkansas's) know that.
SEC fans aren't quite as patient as Michigan fans, though. (I know, it's tough to believe)
First of all, all of the things you said are correct (although I don't know that many people brag about SEC East titles, especially when the Zooker was trying to ruin Florida during that time), but there's more to it. You brought up losing 2 first round skill players as an excuse to lose 5 games, except the year before he had 2 first round skill players starting on his offense and they still lost 3 games when the experts had them at #2 preseason. That stat cuts both ways.
Over the last 7 years, UGA has lost 22 games, a little over 3 per season. Compare that to their recruiting classes over that same period that have left them at an average of 6.8 on the final Rivals class rankings. They were in the top 10 for recruiting classes every year, but finished in the top 10 in the country only 4 times, top 5 once, and out of the poll once. They never played for a national title, despite being in a league that sends a team to the BCS Champ game seemingly every year.
No doubt Georgia has had success. But the expectations there are high and they are rarely never met. Keep in mind also that this past recruiting class was the worst Georgia has had since Rivals starting keeping track, by a decent margin (5 places).
March 30th, 2010 at 10:50 PM ^
You gave a good argument, and made some nice points.
I just don't like people saying things with nothing backing them.
Unless they're funny funny things. I like funny funny things.
WILL SOMEBODY GET THE KID A HAPPY MEAL?!?!?
/Big Daddy'd
March 30th, 2010 at 10:25 PM ^
Has a football team!?!?!?!?!?
I'll be damned...
Richt's seat is at least warm. When head coaches fire assistants, it's usually (not always, but usually) the last step that is taken before that coach is gone.
I'm in disbelief that he still has a job. I think b/c of that absurd contract he has they're just going to punt a year or two away before firing him.
the dude is an absolute joke. what's worse is that he's had his own kid starting at QB for the past 3 years, despite the fact that Cody Hawkins' numbers have been getting worse and worse.
It reminds me of the Simpsons, when Homer is the coach and he makes Bart the QB, despite the fact that Nelson Muntz is way better.
But I guess hindsight is 20/20 for Hawkins the Elder, at least according to this CBS Sports article:
Dan Hawkins, speaking at his weekly news conference Monday, said bringing in his son in his first recruiting class in 2006 was not fair to Cody.http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/12566078/buffs-hawkins-r…
They would of fired his ass after last season but the university is broke and they can't afford his buyout.
yeah that would be correct,
I really don't see any hope for Colorado in the future with him as their coach.
... enjoys being seated on certain polls
It's really a toss-up between Hawkins and Coach Rod...but since Michigan is Michigan, I'm gonna say Rodriguez is feeling more heat than Hawkins is down in Colorado. Poor Colorado...I honestly feel bad that Hawkins hasn't been fired yet.
Minor quibble - the poll asks which coach is under the most pressure to win in 2010, NOT which coach's seat is hottest. The two are not the same.
Of those coaches in the list, RR is under the most pressure to win because he is at the all-time winningest program, not necessarily because his seat is hot. RR is at a place where winning at least 10 games is expected. Spurrier is not. Hawkins is not. Zook is not. Even if RR is promised until 2011, he is under more pressure than the other guys because of the sheer number of games he is expected to win. RR can win 9 games next year and folks will call for his head. The others will not face such rigorous standards.
Thus, my guess is that the poll is right in terms of who is under more pressure, wrong in terms of whose seat is hottest. I am guessing that is Hawkins.
It's a good point you make as to what the poll actually intends (and the results seem to support that), although it's hard to look at that list and not think that every one of those coaches' jobs are on the line if they don't win. I definitely agree that the pressure to win more games at Michigan is great. Most or all of the other schools would probably be satisfied with 8 wins. As another poster pointed out, it's interesting that Bryan Kelly's name is not on this list because he is undoubtedly under great pressure to win and win soon. His absence from the list would support this being a "hotseat" poll even if they didn't call it that.
Anyway... "coaching hot seat" was my own characterization. I thought of it that way mainly because before the first down of football is played this fall, you can be certain that ESPN and other sports outlets will, more times than we'd like to hear, utter the phrase "hot seat" followed by every name on that list, including (if not especially) Rich Rodriguez. Not only because of Michigan's high-win-total expectations, but because like it or not, the NCAA stuff made the pressure on RR to succeed greater, and in my opinion, his seat hotter. Or at least a little warmer.
I agree, I think your characterization is probably in line with what the creators intended - Brian Kelly's absence is telling. The problem is that "under the most pressure to win" is more encompassing than "hotseat" is. Even if I believe RR has no chance of getting fired until 2011 (which I am starting to believe), I still have to pick him because he is still under more pressure to win than those other guys. Thus, even if Dave Brandon knows he will give RR until 2011 and himself takes the poll, he has to pick RR due to the wording. Because of where RR is, he wins that poll no matter what.
If they mean hotseat - they should say "hotseat." Until then, it should be interpreted as a "hotseat" poll (that sounds funny...and scary) very skeptically.
I think the 75% for RR is about as clear (and accurate) as it gets. It isn't even close.
Hawkins won't get fired because Colorado can't pay his buyout. That's also the only reason he didn't get fired after the 2009 season.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Headlinin-B…
One word: Boosters
Does Spurrier get a free pass just because of his success at UF? He hasn't done shit since going to South Carolina.
Yay, we win at something football-related, wooo!!!!
Where is Brian Kelly on this list? Here's a guy who has garnered a lot of attention and I'm really not sure why. He won at a division II school (GVSU) that had many more resources and a huge devoted student body. So if you were a division II recruit where would you rather play Tuskeegee, Carson-Newman or GVSU? GVSU had many more opportunities for better athletes than most D II schools. The 19-16 record at CMU certainly was anything but 'stellar' and he had the advantage of following Mike DeBord. Then off to Cinncinati where he lost to the likes of Louisville and really never had a signature win. If Brian Kelly doesn't succeed immediately the priest-abuse issue will be all but forgotten by the Irish faithful