CC? - Some thoughts from a long time UM fan
Let me start out by stating that I love Michigan. I don't just love being a fan when things are going great, or even good. I love UM through thick and thin.
This, at least for the football team, seems to be one of those thin times. I also love RR as the HC. Not for the winning(hasn't really happened like it some of us wanted it to), but for the fact that he is a very good man put in a tough situation. He has done his best to transform UM football into a better, quality version of his WVU teams and bring an exciting brand of football to UM and the B10. Against not only a hostile press, but also against a portion of the fanbase itself, he has failed in three years to put UM back to national prominence. Should he get a fourth year? That is not for me, nor anyone else, to answer, although after the bowl game results, it seems nearly certain that he won't.
I want to thank RR for his three years he has put in here, from the comedy of errors that was 2008 to the excitement of Denard and 2010. I know it hasn't been easy dealing with idiot commentary from the media and the constant background noise of the anti-RR crowd. Thank you, RR, for your efforts.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:01 PM ^
Well said sir
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:03 PM ^
I know i saw this exact thing posted yesterday..
edit: close enough http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/heres-you-rich-rodriguez
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:08 PM ^
You don't get to say what is legit and what isn't.
If I and others want to discuss RR being a good guy, we will.
If you don't want to paticipate, then you're not invited to take part in the discussion anyway, so stay out of the thread.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 PM ^
easy there killer..just trying to keep some sort of organization here.
January 3rd, 2011 at 12:42 AM ^
This post is satire of another poster; he's not actually mad at you.
January 3rd, 2011 at 8:51 AM ^
That's exactly what people were saying in the defense of CC posts but we saw how all of the RR fans would overtake those posts and turn them into something else completely.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 PM ^
Think I've heard this (in marital form) during the finalization of a few divorces.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 PM ^
Are you an attorney? Or a judge?
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:02 PM ^
+1. I agree with your sentiments and your rational thoughts. However, I don't see this thread ending well.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:19 PM ^
......for the +1, but I didn't post this for any reason other than as an open thank you to RR for the past three years of effort. Some posters here have been and continue to be jacka**** in their comments about RR and the man doesn't deserve that kind of treatment. He hasn't deserved the treatment from that certain portion of the fanbase over the past three years but has taken it well considering the meanness some have displayed.
Forgetting all else that has happened, he was(and still continues to be) UM's head coach of football and should have received full support from the get-go. The anti-RR crowd since the bowl game has become even more uncivil in their commentary towards RR. I just hope they give the next coach more support than they have given RR.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:32 PM ^
I am you. All those criticizing the OP should realize that many of us are long-time Michigan family members...and it isn't easy when a family member is critically ill.
Many of the snarky comments are from the jack-ass boyfriend of the granddaughter, the little shit that has been around only long enough to know great auntie Bess as the irrational smoker out back who cackles at birds. He doesn't see/understand/recognize/respect that she has represents the backbone of this family for 110 plus years.
No, RR isn't Bessie. Michigan football is. Those of you dogging on those of us feeling genuine emotion about the state of things have to realize how far and deep relationships can go...not with coaches, but with programs.
And yes... now you can get off of my damn porch.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:49 PM ^
And great analogy.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:50 PM ^
get off my god damn lawn. If you're letting them make it up to the porch, you're really slipping
<br>But I like this post (can't +1 from iPhone)
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:58 PM ^
I'll +1 for you. I have your back. Like the OP has Rich's!
RR, you will forever have my support as you have given your all for our program. Thanks for your efforts and I'll support you if you stay and root for you if you go. Be well, stay healthy, and thanks again for an emotional and lively year!
You've done some great things with a really young team. Let's not forget that! More importantly, the guys love you and they are growing as young men in substance more important than the game. In life!
You see RR. We as fans sometimes lose sight of what is really essential. The most significant factor is the young men growing as individuals, getting an exceptional education, and bringing their competitive spirit into society.
Please excuse our intolerance and frustrations. Thanks again and be well!
Just a little piggy back vent to the open message started by OP.
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 PM ^
Like I said, I completely agree and feel the same way about a lot of people never accepting him and making his three years here fairly miserable. He's handled everything pretty well given the amount of shit he had to put up with.
I didn't see it ending well for the same reason other threads similar to yours haven't ended well. People get all uppity about clogging the board, someone makes a dumb comment along the way, and off they go on destructive tangents. Nothing personal.
Not trying to be a jackass, but In all seriousness, has there been a "post your positive messages to RR here" type thread yet? I can't imagine that one actually maintaining positivity but it may be worth a shot. If anything it'd be an interesting collection of (hopefully) rational, positive thoughts from RR supporters.
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 PM ^
.....would work well either. Some people are too intent on arguing about things never mentioned in the OP, but that were mentioned in other similar or like posts.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:19 PM ^
Phrase most often associated with any post that starts with CC.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 PM ^
Is usually right.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^
I'm not going to argue that RR should stay anymore, but he seems like a decent guy who put everything he had into the job. I'll be fan of his for the rest of his career.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:27 PM ^
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:43 PM ^
i wish he was as good of a coach as he is a guy, bc i would love to have him win here. it just wasnt good timing i guess.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:53 PM ^
....if you don't believe the man is a good coach too. His success at WVU has shown that he is. If anything, it just wasn't the fit that it should have been and the fans as a whole shoulder some of the blame. When a coach enjoys overwhelming support from the fanbase they have one less worry and more time to spend on the molding of young men and women into good/great players as well as people.
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:12 PM ^
youre right, he's a great coach..but he didnt win here and thats whats important. i hope he gets a 4th year but its not gonna happen unless JH takes his talents to San Fran.
January 3rd, 2011 at 4:25 AM ^
probably a done deal anyway,
January 3rd, 2011 at 8:54 AM ^
If he is a great coach he has never shown it here.
January 3rd, 2011 at 4:26 AM ^
was a good coach. If it wasnt for Pitt upsetting WV, RR would have been playing in the NC and Les Miles would be the coach here at M.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:46 PM ^
i hate northern michigan internet
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 PM ^
This post doesn't mention choking on a cock or the fact that he doesn't like RR's choice of clothing on game day. In honor of this +1 to you.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:54 PM ^
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:09 PM ^
In a different thread which must have been deleted the OP stated we almost choked from wanting the spread so bad. That one didn't end well. Wichitan Wolverine if you are out there, you know all too well.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 PM ^
Yeah, lets keep the grave dancing to a minimum w/ RR
January 3rd, 2011 at 9:05 AM ^
your avatar is beautiful - who is she?
probably your GF, lucky. if not, can you send me her myspace page?
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:10 PM ^
One thing that would suck for Rodriguez though:
There's a decent chance that if Harbaugh comes in, he might be able to reform a lot of things and make this a great team again with all the young talent he has. Assuming Devin Gardner stays, he'll become a great QB. There's a lot of young defensive players that will develop. Stephen Hopkins would make a terrific pro-style running back. And Harbaugh will get all the praise for making UoM great again, even if he has the talent that Rodriguez recruited. Where as Rodriguez gets the empty cabinet that Lloyd left him and he's labeled as the one who ruined Michigan football.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:16 PM ^
forget that Lloyd lost to App St and Toledo in the same season, then abandoned the team. It is Lloyd who gets the blame in my book.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 PM ^
The Toledo loss was in 2008, Rodriguez's first season
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 PM ^
Rich lost to Toledo. But don't worry, it doesn't make your point look idiotic.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 PM ^
lloyd lost to app st and oregon, not toledo (that was 2008)
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:20 PM ^
epic triple correction
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:44 PM ^
jeez. I make one spelling mistake and I get all negged and jumped on. I corrected my post and I will appologize if I offended anyone.
I am not a RR supporter. I am not DB and I did not play FB for M so I dont think I have the right to tell DB what to do. He is the AD, and along with MSC, they will make the best decision for the team and the school whatever that is.
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 PM ^
i was actually referring to the fact that in the time i was replying that toledo was 2008, two other people had posted the same thing at the same time.
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:04 PM ^
Saying that Lloyd lost to Toledo was a "spelling mistake"?
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:11 PM ^
I was thinking of Oregon but typed Toledo. I was at both games. So I guess I had too many beer and I need to use an editor. Thanks.
January 3rd, 2011 at 6:56 AM ^
You're a liar, an idiot, or both. Why would you put Oregon, who was ranked #2 that season until their QB went down, in the same category as App State? If you are telling the truth that you "meant" to type Oregon and not Toledo, then you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:23 PM ^
The Toledo game was under RR
Edit: Sarto1G beat me to it (with added emphasis!)
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 PM ^
again,
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:22 PM ^
Hmm idk if it's sarcasm or not, i do think that the talent level that Lloyd left was low, but he didn't lose against Toledo, that was RR's 2008 team
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:05 PM ^
thanks
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:24 PM ^
It's not surprising that somebody who gets basic, easily obtainable facts so completely wrong goes on to write ludicrous jackassery like Lloyd Carr "abandoned the team."
It's called "retirement"—something that millions of Americans do every year. You will too, some day.
Can you find the other mistake you made?
January 2nd, 2011 at 10:31 PM ^
He blames Carr for the loss to Toledo and then accuses him "abandoning the team". Carr coached at UM for 30 years and led Michigan to their only NT in the past 60 years. Yet, this guy excoriates Carr while lauding a man who has led UM to two of their worst seasons in program history. WTF?
RichRod does not deserve the personal attacks that many have directed at hime, but Lloyd Carr definitely does not deserve the slanderous treatment that Thonati has subjected him to.
Why can't people defend RR without attacking other Michigan Men?
January 2nd, 2011 at 11:06 PM ^
many people who LOVE RR, for whatever reason. He is a good coach but maybe not the right time or place for him here at UM.