CC: Schefter says "buzz around the League is JH to UM"
December 30th, 2010 at 2:06 PM ^
Your wager: Texas with a dollar sign.
December 30th, 2010 at 4:17 PM ^
Threeve.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:55 PM ^
ill eat my own head before reading another CC....
December 30th, 2010 at 2:17 PM ^
Pictures or it didn't happen!
December 30th, 2010 at 1:56 PM ^
Is that the same buzz that had Les Miles coming to AA three years ago?
December 30th, 2010 at 1:57 PM ^
Maybe CC posts should temporarily have their own catagory, replacing "hot," until the BS is over.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:00 PM ^
Couldn't agree more, I can only hope that very shortly after the bowl game is finished that DB will have an answer for everyone. I've watched the boards for a while now and am sick of a new CC post every 10 minutes.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:09 PM ^
i would be ok with them having their own blog
December 30th, 2010 at 1:59 PM ^
People saying "I just have a feeling this is going to happen" isn't news, no matter how smart and trustworthy they may be. Only one guy knows what is going to happen and he says he doesn't even know yet and will make a decision in the next week or so.
Also, if the Niners really "love Jim Harbaugh", there is zero chance he is coming to Michigan.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:13 PM ^
If the Niners love Harbaugh how can you know that it is a certainty that he is not coming to Michigan? Discounting sources in the know who are around people with information on the matter are much more reliable than a poster on a message board so why make the contradictory remarks?
December 30th, 2010 at 2:26 PM ^
If they "love Jim Harbaugh" they would be willing to offer him top dollar to come coach their team (which is roughly what Pete Carroll got from the Seahwks). No one alive is going to turn down $7 million plus and the opportunity to coach at the highest level in his profession while not having to move his pregnant wife and young kids away from their home in the beautiful Bay Area so they can come to Michigan for less than half the money (there is no reason to suspect Michigan, with a long history of underpaying head coaches in all sports, is prepared to pay him any more than $3 million at most).
Again, if they "love Jim Harbaugh" (i.e. offer him a shitload of dough) there is no chance he comes to Michigan.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:41 PM ^
Sorry, but things like 7 > 3, more people want to live in the Bay Area than southeast Michigan, pregnant wife and young kids don't like moving across the country, etc. are not opinions. Those are the potential facts of the situation (assuming the Niners actually have a strong interest in hiring Harbaugh). All of those facts favor taking the Niners' job if it is offered at a "we love Jim Harbaugh" salary. The only one that doesn't is "I'm a delusional fan who really wants Jim Harbaugh to come coach my favorite college team because he loves it so much and will therefore be willing to ignore all the other facts of the situation."
December 30th, 2010 at 3:03 PM ^
Michigan is his dream job? I have searched the internets and can find lots of other people saying that it is Harbaugh's dream job, but nothing from him.
December 30th, 2010 at 4:20 PM ^
I think it stems from the Michigan-specific provision in his Stanford contract.* To my knowledge, there is no other team-specific provision.
*I have not reviewed the contract, but this is my understanding.
December 30th, 2010 at 3:06 PM ^
A lot of those facts are pretty persuasive, but this could be a NFL vs. college football decision, and a lifelong dream decision. If Harbaugh goes to the NFL, he can never go back. He's too proud and competitive and going from the pros to college would be like a step down. Plus (and this is just my take), coaching in college is more about passion than it is about money. If I was a coach like JH who really seems to be about the passion of the game, I'd want to coach a bunch of young guys who haven't been tainted by overblown salaries and egos and contracts.
To your point about salary, 7 is greater than 3, but 3 is pretty great, too. And so is Ann Arbor and Michigan football and the potential of leading Michigan back to the head of the pack. The NFL and job openings will always be there.
December 30th, 2010 at 3:48 PM ^
I can't think of any college coach off the top of my head who has consistently turned down legitimate big money NFL offers to stay in college. Spurrier (leaving his alma mater), Saban, Petrino, Carroll, Johnson, Erickson (twice), Riley (leaving his hometown school where he grew up), etc. on the other hand all took the bigger money.
Most of those guys also were able to successfully return to college football if/when things didn't work out in the NFL.
December 30th, 2010 at 4:05 PM ^
Silent evidence (props to NNT!). That is, due to the nature of the HC search process, it's hard to cite high profile cases of a top coach turning down a job offer because often times, the prospective coach didn't let it get that far.
But I feel EXTREMELY confident in saying the following: (1) Carroll turned down the NFL before last year. The Seahawks were not the first team to offer him a pay raise this decade... (2) Stoops has turned down NFL feelers before... (3) Tressel has turned down NFL feelers before...
I admit - that's not proof. But your construct ignores the silent evidence - when top coaches tell an NFL team "no thanks" it's not always well documented. But you can't assume the next step that Stoops. Carroll (until last year), Paterno, Tressell, Urban Meyer, and other college head coaches have never been offered an NFL pay raise merely because they are, in fact, not in the NFL.
December 30th, 2010 at 4:20 PM ^
Ferentz
December 30th, 2010 at 3:07 PM ^
December 30th, 2010 at 3:35 PM ^
he was born in Toledo and played most of his highschool ball in Palo Alto(YTPA). To be fair, where he grew up is also not cut and dried.
December 30th, 2010 at 3:42 PM ^
Everything I said was based on the explicit assumption that San Francisco is willing to offer top dollar to get him (which is how I defined "love Jim Harbaugh" in this context). Beyond that (assuming again that the money considerably favors San Francisco), believing that the Harbaughs really want to move to the midwest when they've spent the last decade (the entire time since his NFL career ended) in California requires an enormous leap of faith and quite a change of heart on their part.
December 30th, 2010 at 3:25 PM ^
Is probably "No one alive is going to turn down ...", right? You see how that's opinion, correct?
More opinion stuff: "if the niners love Harbaugh, there is a zero chance he comes." If the niners love Harbaugh, they'll offer him something like $7million (like what Pete Carroll got).
You realize that's fact mixed with opinion, right? Fact - PC makes $7 million. Opinion - if the Niners "love JH' they will pay him that much. 3 coaches make $7 mill or more in the NFL - 3 time Super Bowl coach Belichick, 2 time Super Bowl coach Shanahan, 2-time MNC coach with prior NFL playoff HC experience Carroll...
You think the Niners - lovestruck or not - are going to pay Harbaugh that kind of money? If not, it's not a "fact," it's a hypothetical. One that many of us could take issue with.
Further, even accepting your hypothetical, one could see any coach turning down and NFL job for a stable college job... depending on their preferences. Query whether or not UM's job is "stable" anymore, but don't be so smug with your assumptions.
December 30th, 2010 at 3:32 PM ^
The only assumption I made is that "love" equals "will pay whatever it takes to get him." If that is the case, I don't see any way Michigan has a chance at competing with a Niners offer when all the other intangibles (NFL prestige, family stability, location quality) all favor San Francisco as well. The only reason people are freaking out about it is because they don't want to believe Harbaugh would make that choice because they would rather have him at Michigan.
December 30th, 2010 at 3:38 PM ^
And one Lebowski clip.
But Ok.
December 30th, 2010 at 3:52 PM ^
But the posts about how college is way better than the NFL and maybe the Harbaughs are going to out of the blue decide they should have been spending the last decade in wholesome Ann Arbor (instead of California which they may secretly detest despite their uninterrupted stay there) where money just isn't as important because Jim went to school there and played QB for Bo a few decades ago exhibit the kind of delusional thinking that is required to assume Michigan would be in contention for the guy assuming a top-dollar offer from the Niners (and also assuming a coaching vacancy in Ann Arbor).
December 30th, 2010 at 5:46 PM ^
That's the longest sentence I've ever seen.
December 30th, 2010 at 4:18 PM ^
I think either way, making an assumption on this situation is almost impossible – there just isn't enough evidence. Added with a healthy dose of this all might be for nothing, makes this situation the interesting quagmire it is.
December 30th, 2010 at 4:39 PM ^
wouldn't you want stability for your family?
If Harbaugh comes to UM, that might be for like - decades. The NFL is a place where you are hired to be fired, so who, with a young family, wants that?
December 30th, 2010 at 3:41 PM ^
might not even be playing football next year. I can't see the Niners giving any coach 7 million plus for a potential year of nothing. That's what Dan Snyder is paying Shanahan, so use that as a reference.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:59 PM ^
Didn't he say the same thing on NFL countdown about the Carolina job and Harbaugh? I thought we established this was a one line aside in his comments with no real source or credability.
P.S. is anything else going on with UM besides our coaches? I was just wondering...
December 30th, 2010 at 2:01 PM ^
I think we have a bowl game. If we talked about Miss St. as much as we do CC we would know every player and coach's SS number by now.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:28 PM ^
We have a bowl game? Source please.
December 30th, 2010 at 4:07 PM ^
Hey Hackney this bombs for your last post
December 30th, 2010 at 4:11 PM ^
Learn it. Love it. It is your friend.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:59 PM ^
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=5970264&callsign=ESPNRADIO&autoplay=1
It is around 19 minutes in. He also said he is certain he is leaving Stanford.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:04 PM ^
(1) Excited interest or attention; gossip, attention.
(2) A 'source' that can be cited when a reporter kinda thinks something might happen, but can't find any actual sources; Buzz out of the Big Ten is that Texas, Notre Dame, Missouri, Pitt, Rutgers, Texas A&M, Oxford, and Hogwarts have agreed to join the Big Ten.
See also; bullshit, poppycock; ESPN
December 30th, 2010 at 2:06 PM ^
Also buzz: Too many CCs leading to a light headed feeling (Coaching change or Captain & Cokes)
December 30th, 2010 at 3:05 PM ^
December 30th, 2010 at 3:40 PM ^
That is what GERG prefers.
His hair prefers grain alcohol.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:07 PM ^
(3) What I need to tie on before reading any more CC posts.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:13 PM ^
A great Michigan alum and second person to walk on the moon
December 30th, 2010 at 2:20 PM ^
He has a very unattractive girlfriend:
December 30th, 2010 at 3:43 PM ^
But Buzz was a West Point/MIT Alum
December 30th, 2010 at 2:05 PM ^
I have to leave mgoblog. I can't stand it any more. Wanting something to be true, whether RR or JH as coach, won't make it true.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:11 PM ^
The Buzz is that that StephenRKass will be leaving MGoBlog. Apparently he just couldn't take the interminable and intolerable avalanche of aimless rambling about CCs, JHs, RRs, and DBs.
No word on where he is going, but rumors have linked him with BurgeoningWolverineStar, MLive, and CNN iReports. Also no word on his replacement.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:16 PM ^
will be no NSFH threads.