just wait til they break out the flight tracker
no, YOU'RE off topic
just wait til they break out the flight tracker
Flight tracker? Did someone say flight tracker? I haven't refreshed in 5 minutes and I missed the first flight tracker? Oh... Not yet, but I'm sure it is coming. I remember those days we all became infatuated with all things FAA.
the big lead isn't the kind of place to have well connected sources at michigan. if this is true, i think the traditional michigan sources will have the same story shortly.
We could have hired Harbaugh (or someone else) 3 years ago. This hire (RR) not only hasn't worked out, but has left us screaming at our misfortune because one guy (Harbaugh) may turn us down.
But, I'm thinking that we are still Michigan. Would an NFLer be interested? Meyer? Pelini? John Harbaugh? I really don't think we have to hire Brady Hoke.
But, we'll soon see.
...this coaching carousel is less crazy than last time...LOL.
All the rumors are meaningless. If you were JH agent, wouldn't you put rumors about everything out there? I would put out stuff that he was signing his extension at stanford; look at the niners, broncos, panthers; and Michigan. And then, Harbaugh would have his choice of a cushy gig, right?
So, best case for all of us is to go into hibernation until later in the week, wake up, and see if Brandon has saved us or made us all reach for our nooses.
This one little rumor on a website started a shit ton of buzz on the subject and traffic to any websites that mention it. Mission accomplished, thebiglead.
Oh sure, you belittle it. But they had Percentages! Actual, real, live, made-up percentages. And, it was on the Internet. How you gonna say it ain't true?
I don't see JH passing up HC job with the 49ers. Though, it is really tough for a college coach with no NFL experience to make it. All the best for him. Hopefully, DB has a great 2nd choice on his list.
The Niners are a mess. Unless all he cared about was getting into the NFL, I'd pass on that job, especially for your first crack. Yuck.
We are a mess right now. Something needs to be done to right the ship.
I think Michigan is closer to being back than SF.
Uh, last I checked we are a mess too .... unfortunately .... which is why all the "big names" may stay away.
The good news is, Notre Dame went all spread, so if we do get a viable pro style coach in here, it may be easier to recruit the guys (particularly WRs, DBs, and DTs) who want to play in the league. (i.e., I believe the spread has been bad for recruiting at some positions ...)
I'm a bit suspicious of this, since no one leaked this informal agreement when it was supposedly reached. It seems like reaching an informal agreement would be much more likely to leak than the collapse of an informal agreement.
Which means you only have one side to the story. You don't know what that other horse is doing.
I spoke with Prescott Burgess yesterday, and he believes that it'll be Brady Hoke.
I'm so detached now. If harbaugh goes to the pro's he'll be bounced out in three or four years like spurrier, saban, petrino, et al, and then we'll get another crack at him /mild sarcasm.
for what a published contract lacks. Also, there are some deep pockets around the program that can ore than make up the difference. That's legal, right?
Fondly remembering the last coaching search. We were all so innocent then.
...and see what he thinks. God Almighty.
in the NFL is Belichick. He was a disaster in Cleveland and then hooked up with Brady and is now a god in the NFL. Guys like that are few and far between.
Remember, Parcells never won a SB without Belichick, but Belichick has won SBs without Parcells.
Bill Walsh is the last guy I can remember that is talked about like BB is now.
JH can always go there. If he's going to bring UM back from the dark side of ANGAR, now is the time.
Not a single coach on that list is more famous than Hayes, Schembechler, Bryant, Rockne, etc. I think the point he was trying to make was about how there are more iconic college coaches than NFL coaches, not just recently but throughout history.
If you are interested, CNBC will be talking Harbaugh in the next few minutes.
and Stanford fighting to retain him, I am sure Harbaugh (or his agent) is playing hard ball. When going after the hot commodity, you have to expect the heat ...
DB is looking not only at Harbaugh, but also Urban Meyer. Meyer could bring Loeffler (who obvously wants to come back) Heater, and Teryl Austin with him. This is a real possiblity and one that would fit with the quarterback and talent already on the offensive side of the ball.
Why would Meyer come? UF is much closer to a NC than us. Maybe if he had actually retired last year he'd be looking to come back.
Maybe Denard can be his recruiter. He loves recruiting.
Maybe he saw how Lloyd was carted off the field like a Demigod after we put them in their place for the disparaging comments he made about our team the year before. Enshrinement in Schembechler Hall has to trump anything the Gators have. Heck, for all we know, he may have "retired" because we almost pulled the trigger on Rod last year. The point is a lot of people have a lot of different reasons for doing the things they do. Dave Brandon seems more willing to back up the money truck than Dollar Bill was. This reason likely benefits our cause considerably.
that Urban Meyer had outs in his contract for M and ND. So there is clearly the chance that he would want to come. He surrounded himself with assistant who have M connections the last few years. Chuck Heater. Teryl Austin. Scott Loeffler. He "retired" about the time that Brandon would have been feeling out potential candidates. He has stated "he will be back" to coach again.
the possibility that Harbaugh wouldn't come--for any number of reasons--has certainly loomed in many of our questions here on this board. Brandon better freaking well have a backup plan and, for me, Brady Hoke AIN'T IT.
This is my reasonable assumption about the situation.
According to a report yeasterday, the Niners have contacted Harbaugh. Because Michigan has not fired Rodriguez, Harbaugh probably expressed interest in the Niners. Why would he tell them he is not interested unless he has an offer from Michigan already? I think he is just leaving his options open, and therefore, expressed interest in the Niners job, leading to this report.
If it's not Harbaugh, Rodriguez comes back.
Dave Brandon has to already know what Harbaugh's answer would be.
Because you and I may be among the few readers of MGoBlog who've been tortured by having to follow both Syracuse and Michigan football as they were being destroyed by Greg Robinson, regardless of what decision is made concerning Michigan's Head Coach in 2011, do you think that Dave Brandon at least wil give Michigan fans and the kittens of the world a belated Christmas present by firing Greg Robinson tomorrow at the latest?
Jason McIntyre is a clueless hack.
can we make sure to hire someone who doesn't disrespect his wife? bc that is the only thing that could make this worse: doing it again two weeks later.
is $$. Those 108k+ seats in the stadium need to be sold and filled every week. The high priced alumni/donors that buy those suites on a season by season basis won't be forking over $85k to continue this mess. I had dinner with an 81 yr old guy a few weeks ago that was in one of those suites for thew Wisconsin game and members of three different suites all walked out after the third quarter and said they won't be re-upping their contracts on the suites if "that guy stays".
In the end it's all about money and the stadium and the athletic dept has to get paid for and all the extensions in the world won't sell the old alumni on RR, especially after the meltdown on Saturday. DB is a business man and his business is the athletic dept. If that stadium does sell out or if there are alot of empty seats on Saturday's, it's on him.
edit: apparently I can't type on a laptop on Mondays. Errors repaired.
New Schefter discussion on Sports Center said that Harbaugh is supposedly bitter that Lloyd Carr passed over him in 2002 when he wanted to become the quarterbacks coach.
This is why poeple think that he might choose the NFL over Michigan - because he no longer has a love affair with Michigan. At the time he was passed over he said that he "would never forget it."
I figured I'd repost for those without Rivals.com subscription. Sorry to take up space.
AztecSportsReport.com Senior Writer
Talk about it in The Mesa
San Diego State fans can relax. The only game Aztecs head coach Brady Hoke will coach at Michigan next year is Sept. 24 when SDSU visits the Big House.
And the Michigan coach that Hoke will face is Jim Harbaugh. Michigan sources say this will all play out shortly. ESPN's Adam Schefter also has been reporting Harbaugh is passing on NFL opportunities to coach at Michigan, where he played under the legendary Bo Schembechler.
For this scenario not to play out, it will take an unlikely drastic change of heart on Harbaugh's part. I would expect Brandon to have Harbaugh excommunicated as a Michigan alum if he backs out at this late date.
Michigan athletic director David Brandon, who also played for Schembechler, has been operating under the premise that he would evaluate third-year head coach Rich Rodriguez after the Gator Bowl. In reality, Rodriguez, who was hired before Brandon took over last year, has been a dead coach walking for weeks.
Brandon has been waiting for Harbaugh and Stanford to play the Orange Bowl game Monday night against Virginia Tech. This strategy conviently allowed Brandon to avoid firing Rodriguez after the Ohio State loss over a month ago.
Making a move anytime in the last month would have put Harbaugh in the position of leaving Stanford before the Orange Bowl and forcing Brandon to answer questions about what's taking him so long to name a new coach.
Rodriguez's buyout, of course, also was a factor. After Jan. 1, Michigan's buyout of Rodriguez went down from $4 million to $2.5 million.
But Brandon is too smart to not have a head coach lined up and risk putting himself in position of looking for a new head coach in January. Brandon isn't a fool. He was the steely-eyed CEO that turned around Domino's Pizza before he took over as CEO of Michigan's athletic department last year.
He in no way fits the stereotype of an ex-jock blundering his way through a a major decision.
Michigan sources say Brandon learned from Harbaugh through backchannels weeks ago that Harbaugh wanted the Michigan job. At about the same time, Hoke agreed to sign a contract extension with San Diego State.
Coincidence? It's not likely.
Hoke's mentor at Michigan was former head coach Lloyd Carr. Brandon and Carr are close. Brandon and his wife and Carr and his wife were the heads of a $754 fundraising project for the U-M C.S. Mott Children's Hospital.
You connect the dots.
Normally, of course, I wouldn't spend so much time on a Michigan story. Except this Michigan story has ramifications for San Diego State's future.
Hoke will likely end up Michigan's coach -- maybe as early as two or three years from now if Harbaugh decides then is the right time to leave for the NFL.
When that time comes, Hoke has Carr in his corner. He also has Brandon's respect. Brandon's term on Michigan's Board of Regents started in 1998 and overlapped with Hoke's time as a Michigan assistant.
Brandon and Harbaugh are Michigan Men, to paraphrase Schembechler, and Brandon considers Hoke a Michigan Man, too.
Hoke was an assistant for eight years under Carr, but that doesn't tell the full story. He was Carr's associate head coach in 2002, the season before he left in 2003 as Ball State's head coach.
For these reasons, Brandon considered Hoke his compromise choice if he met too much resistance from Michigan boosters over hiring Harbaugh, who comes with some baggage. Harbaugh, even on his good days, can be abrasive.
In 2007, he told the San Jose Mercury, "Michigan is a good school, and I got a good education there, but the athletic department has ways to get borderline guys in, and, when they're in, the steer them to courses in sports communications."
That didn' go over well in Michigan.
But Harbaugh is Brandon's first choice because he needs to make a splash with his new head coach. Harbaugh creates that splash with name recognition that will sell suites at newly expanded Michigan Stadium in a state suffering through an economic recession.
Hoke has proven himself to be a football coach that can turn around programs with less resources than he'll have in Ann Arbor. He even has the nationally televised endorsement of ESPN's Craig James during the broadcast of San Diego State's win over Navy.
But name recognition weighs more heavily in this case. In additon to the suites to fill, Michigan Stadium has been expanded to 113,000 seats. It may sound sacriligious to think Michigan can't sellout games, but it should be noted Michigan didn't sell out its ticket allotment to the Gator Bowl.
That ticket slump could be blamed on a third straight disappointing season under Rodriguez and the Gator Bowl lacking prestige, but Michigan fans usually don't pass up on a trip to Florida in the winter unless something is amiss with the program.
The only surprise about this scenario playing out is Harbaugh has decided to pass on NFL opportunities. It's long been known Harbaugh aspires to be an NFL head coach. When he coached at the University of San Diego from 2004 to 2006, even his players talked about how Harbaugh's goal was to become an NFL head coach.
But Harbaugh apparently is waiting for the right situation. He must not see this as the right time. NFL owners and players are expected to engage in a labor struggle that could result in an owners lockout or a players strike.
If Harbaugh wanted to be an NFL head coach next year, he could seek the Carolina job and tell the Panthers he's bringing Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck with him since the Panthers hold the No. 1 overall draft pick.
If he wanted to stay in the Bay Area, he could seek the San Francisco 49ers job.
Both of those jobs have been expected to be open for weeks. If Harbaugh had his eyes set on those positions, a rumor would have leaked out by now -- similar to the way rumors have leaked out about Brandon already having Harbaugh lined up.
Another example that Harbaugh is waiting for the right NFL job -- not just any NFL job -- was his decision to leave the Oakland Raiders as their quarterbacks coach in 2002 and 2003 to become the head coach of the USD's non-scholarship program in 2004.
I sat down with Harbaugh for an interivew before the 2004 season, and he told me Raiders owner Al Davis said he wanted him to stay so he could groom him to be his future head coach.
But Harbaugh told Davis he wanted to get experience as a head coach and he was following a similar path that Davis took as a college assistant coach at USC before moving on to pro football with the Chargers.
"He told me, 'Yeah, but I coached at USC, not USD,' Harbaugh said with a laugh.
If Harbaugh had stayed on the Raiders' staff, you think Davis would have hired Lane Kiffin (2007) or Tom Cable (2008) over Harbaugh? Harbaugh's smart enough to know he was next in line at Oakland, so it must not be a job he wanted.
By the time Harbaugh feels comfortable moving from Michigan to the NFL, Hoke will have the profile that will satisfy Michigan fans and make him an easy hire for Brandon. He will have won a lot of games at San Diego State by then.
Minnesota flirting with Hoke has already helped raised his profile. I told Minnesota reporters that called me for information that I didn't believe the rumors and Hoke wouldn't leave San Diego State after two years for Minnesota. Probably the only place he would leave SDSU for after only two years is Michigan.
If Hoke does eventually end up at Michigan, when SDSU searches for his replacement the Aztecs will no longer be considered a sleeping giant that needs the right man to turn things around.
By then, San Diego State will be a job that attracts a stronger cast of candidates than it ever has in the past.
And if Hoke leaves it will be the first time someone on the SDSU staff will be considered a candidate to succeed the departed head coach.