SC Wolverine

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:33 AM ^

First, let's not kid ourselves about RR.  I have been a big RR supporter, but it is over for him at UM.  He cannot stay, given the shambles our football team is in after his third year.

Second, if DB had all his hopes pinned on JH, with no backup plan, then he is not the executive we have thought he is.  This is the big decision of his tenure here and, like RR preparing for the bowl, DB has had over a month to prepare for it.  If he is now at a loss for what to do, then we really are in big trouble.  But I find this unlikely: surely any scenario that might occur to our minds has been fully explored and prioritized by DB.

So we just have to wait.  Uggh.

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UAUM

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:39 AM ^

In his post game presser, Denard responded "No response" when asked if he would return if RR was fired.  Can someone please make me feel better about that comment, please.

Sorry to post an OT question, but it is just burning me up and there are no other recent threads on point.

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BiSB

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:41 AM ^

I have no inside info here, BUT...

  • After the year he had, Denard would have his choice of programs.
  • He is obviously a spread guy, and Harbaugh is obviously not.
  • He has a redshirt year to burn if he transfers, so it wouldn't cost him any playing time.

Logic dictates that Denard would leave.  The only reason he would stay is because he loves Michigan that much... but after seeing the fanbase take a dump on his coach (warranted or not), I imagine that good will is fading quickly.

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gobluesasquatch

January 3rd, 2011 at 12:01 PM ^

This has already been discussed, but he did run a spread offense while at USD. Josh Johnson did get drafted by Tampa Bay, when Gruden was there. Of course, John Gruden never was satisfied with only have 3 QB on his roster. 

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sarto1g

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:42 AM ^

I said it in another post, but even commenting on that question would be extremely disrespectful to his head coach who is still under contract.  Denard has more than proven himself to be an extremely humble and respectful kid.  Take it FWIW

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Number 7

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:36 AM ^

Sounds to me like Harbaugh's agent is taking some of the negotiations to the press. The bit about the large contract/distressed state is weird, though, from that angle. Either the reporter ad libbed that to say 'don't play me' back to JH's agent, or JH is negotiating for something significant of non-monetary value (like long duration or favorable buyout terms).

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Sven_Da_M

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:42 AM ^

... why move across the country when you have a newborn?  He won't even have to get a new telephone number!

If this program review was really just no more than "Help us JH!" then we were really worse off than anyone thought.

If JH wants the NFL this bad, he would probably have been a short-timer in AA.  Yeah that would have been OK, but better get someone now who views Michigan as a destination, not a waypoint.

And, face it people, the over-under on RichRod's tenure is about 4 days at this point.

DB had to have a list, albeit a short one.   "JH" written 5 times on a Post-It ain't a list. 

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Fuzzy Dunlop

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:46 AM ^

My guess that, before the bowl game, Brandon's plan was to hire Harbaugh if he would take the job, and if not retain Rodriguez (making all the right statements about the team showing consistent improvement, etc).

Problem is, then Saturday happened.  Retaining Rodriguez certainly seems like a less feasible option than it did four days ago.

I'm sick to my stomach right now.

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ontarioblue

January 3rd, 2011 at 10:51 AM ^

1. I hope he made his decision after Ohio State and the deal is done with Harbaugh once the game is over tonight.

2. If the deal isn't done with Harbaugh, and he intendeds keep Rich Rod, why in the hell didn't he announce Rich would be back before the game Saturday.

3. Brandon is Martin and we are screwed again.

4. I just throw up thinking about Haloscan and the tracking of flights out of Willow Run starting tomorrow if Harbaugh goes to the NFL.

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gobluesasquatch

January 3rd, 2011 at 11:32 AM ^

Mike Leach has proven he's a very good coach. Just wait a few years and see how Tubberville does in Lubbock, TX. It won't be pretty. Man's an offensive genius. 

However, this whole "fit" nonsense is BS. However DB hires, as fans, alumni, etc, we need to get behind that hire. If the M community shows support, the idiots over at that paper not to be named won't get much traction on any negative stories they try to write, because people will tell them to go shove it. 

They got traction on the violations against RichRod because the base was divided from the beginning. Why Les Miles was viewed as the end all, be all, I'll never know. Yeah, he was "good", but he had tons of baggage. Anyhow, a divided base gave some former M players a cover to transfer (Boren), the media to write what they wanted, and enough initial support to turn a few extra hours of practice into Michigan's first major violation in football.

All of that has an effect on players, staff and the head coach. If RichRod isn't fighting to prove he's a Michigan Man (again, look at what that actually means - and btw - Lloyd Carr - not a Michigan man, nor is Brady Hoke), then maybe things are different in terms of execution, recruiting, and even making staff decisions. 

I'm just frustrated with this whole fit nonsense. Here is what I want out of the next head coach:

1) Does he graduate players and represent the ideals of the University well (academic and athletic excellence) 

2) Does he win games

That's pretty much it. Leach graduated players more than any other Big 12 school. 

Mike Leach won a ton of games.

Now, if only he'd forget he's a lawyer and can win his case against TTU, drop the case and he'll find himself hired. 

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readyourguard

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:46 AM ^

Here's hoping Harbs is just trying to smash any upheaval in his lockerroom prior to his bowl game tonight.  You can damn well guarantee yourself that ESPN's pre-game show will have plenty to say about the subject tonight.

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GunnersApe

January 3rd, 2011 at 10:51 AM ^

WWL as of 0950.

 

0755est on Mike and Mike.

Adam Schefter bullet.

-JH can make more money at S.F./DEN and they both want him BUT he could be at UM along time.

 

0920est on Mike and Mike

Chris Mortensen bullet.

-John Elway is onboard and is making a run at JH.;

 

 

0940est on SportCenter

Kirk Herbstreit (His "Black Cat" gut feeling) bullets.

-More than life than money and will go to UM for Pride/Bo/Tradition.

-RR stays get new DC (no shit)

-RR may want to be fired to get a fresh start.

 

0948est on SportCenter

Adam Schefter bullets

-talked about Dallas and Jason Garrett n/m of UM/JH

 

I didn't see the part that everyone was talking about A.S. saying JH to NFL but there you go from the APE they said they will have more at the top of the hour.

 

EDIT: UPDATE

1000est Adam Schefter on S.C. bullets.

-Leavin Stan.

-It will be up to the NFL to lure him away from UM(S.F.) with a perfect storm opertunity.

-Decision should be made by middle/end of this week.

 

So same as yesterday.

UPDATE the duce:

1030est 1st and 10 on ESPN

Pat Forte bullets.

- RR is done

- JH job for the taking

- think DB is honoring JH wishes to coach Orange Bowl

- if not JH, thinks Les Miles (stop thinking Pat), Brady Hoke

 

1038est 1st and 10 on ESPN

Amani Toomer and Skip (poo flinging monkey) Bayless bullets.

A.T.

-RR should go.

-JH job for the taking.

-UM needs to be physical w/ good D.

-Like the hire of RR at first but thought it was too radical of a change from Old School UM.

-RR doesn't get it, started with #1 jersey Drama

 

Skip Bayless

-He opened his mouth and I threw the remote at the TV.

 

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GunnersApe

January 3rd, 2011 at 12:12 PM ^

1142est SportsCenter

Craig James bullets.

-At the beginning of the game thought they would fire GERG the White. After the game RR is gone.

 

John Saunder bullets.

-Getting a lot to Tweets/Twits(?) from UM Alums who want RR gone.

 

Nothing new just wanted to be a smart ass.

 

LEGIT Question. Is Nebraska officially in the B1G? those bastards got ran in there Bowl game too, welcome to the suck Big Red.

 

EDIT UPDATE:

1202est SportsCenter

Adam Schefter bullets.

Reporting the same as above but emphasizes SF is going to break the bank (my words), so same as above.

 

Chris Mortensen bullets

- the reason for the delay is the Orange Bowl. Well know by Wednesday/Thursday.

 

I'm done unless there is Truly something new. But I do want to know about Nebraska.  

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Rush N Attack

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:57 AM ^

then maybe we'll finally get a chance to see who all the "big name" coaches that have "supposedly" expressed interest in coaching Michigan are.....

According to Doug Karsch, we'd be SHOCKED at the names.

He referenced Bob Stoops as an example of just how big, but stressed that it WAS NOT actually Stoops.

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Beavis

January 3rd, 2011 at 9:58 AM ^

If he's now going to SF, they backed up the dump truck of cash to his front door.  Thinking $5-$7M per year. 

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Wolverine96

January 3rd, 2011 at 10:10 AM ^

Yes, Harbaugh or any other coach is going to make less money in college.  That said, for Harbaugh or others it comes down to whether or not you want to be a somewhat anonymous coach in the NFL or an icon in college.  They don't name buildings or stadiums after you in the NFL.   

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Beavis

January 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 AM ^

Very true.  Only if you win a SB in the NFL as a head coach, the "fame" you speak of above becomes a moot point. 

Harbaugh has a chance to cement his legacy at Michigan.  But if he cemented a legacy in the NFL, his name would ring out to a much broader audience. 

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