Yeah the had it covered last time?
alternate headline: man does job
Yeah the had it covered last time?
Did you miss the part where fox2 released a story that was found to be unfounded and pure speculation?
Just like RR was fired Tuesday. Not saying it's necessarily wrong but I have no reason to trust them.
Also, let's drop the CC tag since every board post will now have it. I could start a thread titled mangled animal carcass and we'd end up talking about the potential of Charlie Weis coming here...
This could just mean they are interviewing tomorrow?
/Praying to that sweet merciful baby Jesus we have a shot to land this guy.
Also, I think any talks would be more like "negotiating" than "interviewing".
it's not happening. i;d bet my journalism career on it
And here I am without a journalism career to wager.
This game sucks.
I would take that over Les Miles...Please tell me that this carcass you speak of has ties to Michigan and at least a small coaching resume.
gives spread and shred a new meaning.
Is the Gruden, Tirico, Jaworski team doing the NC monday night? It would explain the plane in 'zona
I believe they are. Don't read to much into it.
I dunno about the other two, but Gruden is
Yes Tirico and Gruden are calling the game on Espn radio
Unless it was about a mangled whale carcass. Or maybe a water buffalo.
It can't get any worse than it already is for the M Nation, can it? From what has happened today on recruiting front it's put me over the edge.....until we find a coach I'll jus crawl back into my hole
I am living in a discount tent on the field in Kezer Stadium, wishing death to the 49ers until this all gets resolved if you care to join me (it's right accross the street from Kezar Pub, so we can still catch the UM-KU game tomorrow).
Weis is a candidate? Where'd you hear this? Sources man!
He lost ten pounds and is now going by the name "Brady Hoke"
I love that the CC tag caught on. I agree that the time has come for it to fade away, but it was cool that everyone tried to be considerate and use the tag all these weeks. Sorry I continued to hammer away in those threads regardless - I regret being a d-ck.
We need to start tagging things "CS" for Coaching Search
CS= Coaching Search since we already know theres a Coaching Change, no? whatever
I can only dream of bringing my own Maized out Chucky to the Big House
The "I Haz Ur Hed" Chucky toys. Rated E for everyone.
EDIT: Also, comes with pull cord that includes catching sayings such as.
"I fucking hate your sweater vest".
So many conflicting pictures in your post. This might be the only time you ever see Mr. Rogers and Chucky side by side.
Two warning flags already:
1) source if fox2 news. Yeah, totally above-board with their reporting on the situation so far.
2) Used the hash tag #takeitwithagrainofsalt. I think that says it all.
If DB is not interviewing, I would be concerned. I hope this is true, motion creates emotion.
If it's wrong, it's wrong, but this is the first time, I think, that I've heard his name come up outside of people's, and my own, wishlists. Gruden, as many have mentioned is a student of the game and has spent time learning the spread offense to a point where I'm sure he could at least incorporate it to a degree, hopefully that would mean Denard stays, plus you know Gruden would love Denard and Devin, "My two qb's, now these guys, they're gamers!" Then on the defensive side of the ball, we'd be taken care of as well. He's been itching to get back into coaching and this job could be right up his alley.
But if he's going to take a job it makes some sense (i.e. get ready to watch me talk myself into the dream).
He's said a midwest college job like ND, UM, or OSU would be great. He seems to have looked hard at OSU even when he was an NFL head coach with the Raiders. If you are looking at those jobs, Kelly is at ND at least another 3 years and Tressel is locked in at OSU (and even if he leaves would you really want to follow that). Money should be legit. Just heard NFL guys talking about how owners don't want to give personnel control to coaches and this is why Gruden/Cowher haven't come close to taking another job. He's looked into and studied the hot offense in college football. At Michigan his name alone unifies a disgruntled fanbase. The team is set up for immediate success with 18 starters coming back and expectations are low after three (more than that in my mind) painful years. If he beats MSU and wins 9 games, how much love would he be getting? If he beats OSU and/or has a better record he's an instant legend. We also look like we'll be offering comparable money to NFL teams (maybe not what he could get, but pretty high).
Also, Jaws is a douche.
So yeah, I realize I have officially become "ND fan" but I don't care. I would rather believe for a few more days if the only other option is embracing Hokeamania.
If he comes here, wins nine games and beats MSU, I will stop using words, but will communicate only in grunts that sound like "GROO-DUN."
Michigan fans would actually be excited about the hire.
Not a surprise after the last few years, but hopefully Dave Brandon gives a shot to prove it.
we're all retarded if we don't share your opinion. *roll eyes*
Having said that, whoever is the coach, I will support.
I think the large majority of the fanbase would be behind him. I don't think it's very likely to happen, though.
Let this happen. Your pops knows we need it. Gruden!
on why Gruden would be a good hire, and man would I love to have him. There is always a part of me that tends to go back to wanting a guy that will be here for the long haul. Gruden would be great, but how long would he really be interested in staying. If it is for a while, then by all means come on down Gruden, but I don't believe that is the case. I want DB to do his due justice in finding the next University of Michigan Football coach that will bleed maize and blue until his career is over (i know this is a big wish, but man would it be great).
I get the feeling DB doesn't want us to go all-out spread (spread-eagle?) in the Richrod/Oregon finesse sense. I get the feeling he wants to veer back toward the power game. A hybrid that suits both Denard and the B10 style. Like Miss State or LSU, for example.
She just tweeted again, linking a story in which Gruden's dad says he'd be good for the Cleveland Browns. Probably nothing to see here.
The story is from Cleveland.com, I feel like the dad would say to Annarbor.com that he would be great for the mich job. I'm not going to count on this rumor being remotely true. But at least its word that DB may actually be doing something.
I have a very hard time believing that Chucky would go to a place where Holmgren's word is the law. Gruden wants control. He will have none of that in Cleveland.
since the early 90s... Would he fit back into the college game? I do think his NFL cachet would help recruiting as much as Les Miles's college clout would, perhaps even more.
Carroll had been out of college coaching since 1983. If Weis and Wannstache can recruit (and both were very good), Gruden can sign every blue-chip in 10 states.
simply because it gives me something to do with my Saturday while sitting in the midst of a northwest Indiana snowstorm.
There is only one Bo; but there is also only one Chucky.
Neither is Hoke assuming the next Bo does not have a Michigan background just like the first.
Why do you feel the need to post negative comments everytime Gruden is brought up? He must've fucked your mom.
He is everywhere and he will fuck anything.
Ok....when is the Cower is interviewing Bullshit rumor going to surface. This is embarrassing.
...If you think UM has any chance of getting Jon Gruden.
...but it's fun to think about it.
Also anyone who says Gruden would not be an amazing college coach is crazy.
If fat Wies can recruit by flashing super bowl rings and doing his "im fat, im not going to say im fat, i dont talk about myself, but im fat, i dont want to make this about me but, becasue i dont make things about me, but me me me." rutine, im pretty sure Chucky can get the job done, he would be like pete carol at USC but way way way way way better.
Congrats on making it to four digits in the points column!
Pretty sure that Weis recruited so well by simply threatening to eat anyone who did not come to ND
Really? Anyone who has some questions about a guy who's never coached college ball (except for 12 minutes as a position coach in the early 90s) is nuts?
If people are trying to talk themselves out of hiring a ridiculously popular and charismatic young coach who won a Super Bowl in Tampa and made the Raiders (the Raiders, remember them, with Al Davis running that clusterfuck into the ground) into one of the best teams in football as an NFL head coach then there is something wrong.
There are more questions marks about nearly every other human being on the planet.
a Gruden fanboy, but people can have other opinions. I personally don't think we have a chanace in hell and it's embarrassing that our fan base is arrogant enough to think we could land him when he's turned down everyone else.
Plus, just becasue he was great in the NFL doesn't mean he can coach college. See PItt.
You think Dave Wannstedt was "great in the NFL."
Game. Set. Match.
I say that? Fail.
In your last two sentences -1
Dave Wannstedt was not a great or even a good NFL coach. That being said, the fact that our fanbase honestly seems to think that we could get Gruden is very telling and not in a positive light.
for 15 years before coming back and has A&M playing pretty good, minus the game last night.
1) A single example does not prove a point. I could site a dozen opposing examples.
2) Mike Sherman had previously been a college coach.
What web cite would you be using to sight these examples?
I hear Terry Bowden's interviewing.
I want Bobby Bowden. Then I can recreate that insurance commercial and go touch someone that looks like him.
I love Bobby Bowden. I actually may have saved his life in Brazil last spring, no joke.
i want to hear this story......
Ah, yes. That was you. Meeting him on a flight to Brazil, and telling him to put his jewelry/ championship rings away right? That's pretty cool.
We need details.
What about Bobby? He's tanned, rested and ready! No sense going for the acorn when the entire tree is at your disposal.
Who would you rather have:
1. Terry Bowden
2. Tommy Bowden
3. Bobby Bowden
4. A chalkboard eraser
5. Brady Hoke
and a tall glass of Bookers neat
nothing else will do at this point.
I'm intrigued by this chalkboard eraser. The crucial question: Is it a "Michigan Eraser"?
I'd have to know who the eraser was likely to hire to fill out its coaching staff.
The chalk eraser would get pwned by a dry eraser running the Oregon spread.
But he's so fat.
Gruden did contact U of M (Miami) for their recent opening.
I believe Miami goes by "U-M".
Ha! Just noticed the latest banner change.
nothing like a little head asplosion to spruce up the site.
I like that it looks like Miles is wincing and turning his head to avoid the shrapnel of grey matter and bone shards. Seems about right.
Six Zero, you da man.
I've seen the Cleveland rumor as well. I think he stays pro.
...is Cleveland sexier than Michigan? That franchise has been stuck in neutral for decades.
Hey now....no need to bring my Browns' futility into this conversation. The only reason Gruden has been mentioned is because he was a Michigan fan growing up and he said off the record that Michigan is his dream job.....Mind you, he also grew up a Browns fan.
CC this.... CC = Dumb Ass....
ill believe it when it comes from a more reliable source
one of his best assets might be his age--he's 47, the same age as JH and ten years younger than LM.
I agree though that he's probably not coming. We've heard these rumors of JG-to-college before.
But can he manage a college team?
Fair question, because in college you work nearly year-round with spring ball, camps, a long season, university duties. Plus you manage a roster twice as big, filled with teenagers who need supervision. NFL jobs are less of a year-round grind. But Pete Carrol managed to do it. And Sherman is doing OK. Gruden is young and enthusiastic. I worry, however, that he has already "made it" by winning a Super Bowl and may not be as hungry (same goes, to an extent, for LM).
I have never been one of his biggest fans. He took a Bucs team that Dungy built and took it to the Super Bowl. He then had varied success until fired.
I asked this of Hoke a while back, and no one came forward, but lets see...someone sell me on Gruden. Frankly, why is he better than Hoke, for that matter? Just because of the ring? That won't mean much if he can't coach on the college level.
No one should really have to explain why Chucky is better than Hoke, but his track record is WAY better.
And he played the team he had just left in the SB, so he wins either way, right?
For starters: Who did Tampa Bay beat in the Super Bowl? The Oakland Raiders, who, incidentally, had Bill Callahan, a first-year head coach who took over for recently departed JON GRUDEN. If you're going to take away credit from Gruden for taking a team that "Dungy built" (of course, Dungy clearly called all the plays for Tampa Bay that year too, right? Those 12 regular season wins and 3 in the playoffs were 100% the players), then you also have to give Gruden credit for Callahan's success with the Raiders (he made the Super Bowl before driving that team into the ground).
Also, very few NFL coaches have done more with less the way Gruden has. Who were his quarterbacks in Tampa? Brad Johnson? An aging Jeff Garcia? Yet they made the playofs quite a bit.
Overall Gruden's record in the NFL is 95-81 (38-26 at OAK and 57-55 at TB), including 5 division titles and one Super Bowl(and it probably would have been two if not for that stupid tuck rule game against Brady's Pats).
Gruden is also a student of the spread. He is already known as a very innovative offensive mind (learned the WCO under Mike Holmgren) and combining that with his rigorous study of the spread could take next year's offense to the next level. His defenses were also quite good, both at Tampa (yes I know he had Monte Kiffin but he was still the head guy and deserves credit) and Oakland. Finally, he also has the charisma to succeed here, as he has coached in hostile environments in Philly, Oakland, and TB.
DEFINITELY better than Hoke and I'd take him over Les Miles too
It isn't college football. Dungy didn't recruit those guys or sign them up in the draft. The GM put together a team that Dungy couldn't get over the hump with. He's just not as good a coach as Gruden. If it weren't for getting 7 tries with Peyton Manning and a matchup against Rex Grossman, Dungy doesn't have a ring.
By this argument Bill Callahan is great because he got further with Gruden's Raiders than Gruden did.
he would bring instant credibility and provide a huge spark to the program and potential recruits. he is probably also very well connected and put together a great coaching staff while hopefully sprinkling michigan men.
even if he's gone in a few years, if he brings some success, he will put UM in a better position to name a solid successor.
i'm all in for this. spend the money.
I can't post this because I don't have the points yet... But why has Skip Holtz not been named a candidate yet? He has a decent resume, is likely willing to move, and being a Notre Dame guy, understands the whole higher standards and alumni aspects....
They both just signed contract-extensions.
Has anything true ever been said via Twitter? I thought it was just an experiment involving monkeys chained to typewriters.
This can't be true - I heard he was going to Miami (FL). Wait, what?
And the word on the street was contract negotiations fell through b/c Gruden wanted to have his brother take the position if he left. Miami said no and they went their separate ways.
And if it is true, that should rule him out for UM as well. There is no way any university with self-respect would accept that condition.
And praying this is true.
After hearing Gruden on MNF I love him. He's got a passion for the game that comes out, I can see kids flocking to AA to play for him.
This is the best news of the weekend, here's hoping and praying something comes of this
Know who else was great on TV? Matt Millen. Let's hire him.
to hire Hoke, I think it would have already happened. He knows Hoke would accept and he knows it would help recruiting and end the speculation. Therefore, I think he is out scouring every big name he can get a hold of. DB might also be doing what he did with leaking the BIG 10 divisional thing and see that Hoke would not cut it with the fan base.
He knows anything less won't make up for having lost Harbaugh. How sweet would it be to get a huge name and pay him more than harbaugh is getting with the 49ers showing everyone that M is serous about winning and getting the right coach!
He has national name recognition (common guys, DB is a marketing guy and we are talking Big Ten network and the MIchigan brand which is a key player in that network, before folks begin to cancel subscriptions = $$$, which is what keeps our athletic department going), kids who grew up in the 2000s and are now being recruited recognize his name and would die to play for him, he knows the game and has no UM baggage, unlike Hoke and Miles, and, if I recall, he was in Phoenix when an M plane landed. So, darn logical to me.
links about the plane?
Thought was too much about this and think he is the perfect hire
Why I think he would be interested ...
-Has said he wants to get back into coaching at some point and still watches a ton of film
-Has already been sucessful in the NFL - doesn't need to prove himself (a la Carroll)
-Likes complete control (which he could get in college)
-Has midwest ties
-Has new buddy Mike Tirico to show him around Ann Arbor (ok - this is a stretch - but still)
Why it would work ...
-Only a year older than Harbaugh
-Would immediately have cache with any top recruit
-Apparently loved by players at Senior Bowl in past and likes helping out at local high school
-Supposedly learning new spread offenses and could experiment with Denard
Just think about it ...
I wish I had your imagination. You're too new to be jaded just yet, for this I am jealous.
Oh - it's a longshot - trying not to get my hopes up. Just saying it's worth a phone call. That is all.
Unfortunately I feel as though DB's phone is broken. If it was working I feel as though there would be some solid news to report as to who he was interviewing instead of driving our fan base into madness.
Wait, Carroll had success in the NFL before going to USC? Has the definition of "success in the NFL" changed?
(Gentle tip: Cachet, unless you mean that top recruits are drawn to squirrel- or computer-like traits in coaches.)
Sorry - meant to say unlike Carroll - Carroll wanted to back to the NFL to prove that he could win there. Gruden doesn't have to do that.
I think you need to read the comment again. He was saying that UNLIKE Carroll, Gruden has proved himself in the NFL.
Grammatically, that's ambiguous at best. "In contrast to Carroll" would have been clear.
But now that I understand what you are saying, sure, that's a valid point.
Ambiguous at best, I like the sound of that! Thanks wal-mart guy.
Gruden was only making about 3.5 million per year in Tampa Bay. Hell, give him 4, 4.5 and call it good.
It isn't important what he made in Tampa. He's currently making $4 million at ESPN. I would think that is the relevant number.
Good gosh, let me just say I hate twitter. I don't know if anyone has actually tweeted anything related to the coaching search that has even been close to accurate. Seems pretty clear that David Brandon is keeping everything on lock down and not releasing even a morsel of information. The way this thing is playing out so far either DB is a freaking genius and is going to unleash an amazing unexpected hire, or he is the biggest idiot ever. There is simply no in-between.
He's knows he has to get this right but so far, it doesn't look good.
the plane apparently is heading to dallas. Where LM agent is. Also the agent for Gary Patterson, I know extension blah blah blah.
Michigan BBALL plays in a televised game vs Kansas. Is it possible DB and LM meet up?
DB's search firm feels up his agent!
I would like to know fox 2 source for this one.
One does not simply interview for Michigan...
the interview must be him interviewing DB. All DB should be doing is printing out the contract and putting it in front of Gruden if he is actually interested.
Hmm Hoke or Gruden...
Along with a blank check that has a note that says, "Oh, and let us know how much you will be making during your time here. -DB"
I have a question, did Miles and Brandon play football together?
I thought I read that somewhere.
One season, I believe.
I would shit brix if Gruden became HC.
Breaking News..... Jon Gruden, next white house press secretary,...CC that.... gosh....
Have you already booked your trip to Bolivia and just waiting for us to punch your ticket? We can oblige.
it is mentioned that one thing keeping him in Tampa is his son will be a senior in hs and plays qb and lb. It also says Gruden helps coach and that he is still being paid by Tampa from his previous contract. Money (because he is still being paid and therefore is not hurting with the MNF gig too) and family (son's football) appear to be some obstacles for any coaching position for him.
Not only that but why set ourselves up for the proverbially dong punch that will occur when we get our hopes up and realize we were just being dumbasses for thinking it was possible.
If his son's going to be a HS senior, that would probably mean another year before he gets back into coaching.
My family had a similar situation where I was a senior in high school and my father moved for a new job until we moved out with him after graduation. It wasn't ideal, and I don't know all the ins and outs of Gruden's responsiblilities there, coaching, etc, but I don't think it's a total deal breaker.
Well hopefully lot's of good candidates will be interviewing for the job. But, that doens't mean they'll automatically get it.
Someone was discussing the possibility of Coach Klien earlier Bobby, any chance you can get ahold oh him?
A fun thing about a Gruden hire:
NDNation would go absolutely batshit. He's been their impossible dream for a good decade now.
Geeze, didn't know that! What did DB say about understanding UM rivalries? Making even more sense. Great point!
We can only hope. Right, VictorsValiant?
I don't know, not sure UofM could handle it since RR was to much for us in that regard ...
Oh well got so pumped last night after the Cotton Ball and all the calls into wjob.com radio...expecting breaking news today somewhere... end of day # 4 ,tomorrow is a new day....
I have also heard the fact that his son will be a senior next year is the reason he has not taken any jobs.
The thing that I am happy with is that in a matter of a week, David Brandon has rebuilt a stronger and more air tight FORT SCHEMBECHLER.
Looking forward to the media lock-down...
Oh, and also Jim Delany has just updated the Big Ten division names to the Funktastic Division and Crumbelievable Division. And also touchdowns will henceforth be referred to as "sweet sticks," sacks will be called "bedazzles" and timeouts will be known as "me moments."
We should be so lucky....Please, please, please!
he allegedly just turned down 7 per from miami. but miami aint no michigan! err... we can hope anyway.
maybe those interviews he did with the top qbs' in last year's draft gave him the college football bug.
no doubt it'd be awesome. just not going to get my hopes up on this one.
Hoke vs. Tressel.
Now imagine Gruden vs. Tressel.
And with that..... I'm sold.
Now look at your man, now back to me, now back at your man, now back to me.
If he is actually being interviewed I'll believe we have a shot. Didn't he refuse to even meet with miami?
Anything in particular I'm looking for here? This thing is 45 minutes long
All I have to say is before we just post "Nothing to see here" we should at least give it a listen. Because the last time we had things like "nothing to see here" and "dead horse" posts was about the possibility of our coach being fired. So lets learn and not just blow stuff off because we think it is unlikely.
NM, new twitter threads discussions, would anyone care to know that I went to college with Michael Schottey?
comments from Ross on his conversations with JH for those who care...
"Harbaugh wanted to go to the NFL, but he wasn't exactly sure. He asked me, 'What should I do?' I recommended, 'Go back to Stanford and hitch yourself to the quarterback. You've got the best quarterback. You can win the national championship. The pros will be there.'
So for those keeping score at home, do we have 1 bit of evidence that Gruden is a candidate besides J. Hammond's tweet? Anything other than that?
Correct, we have no bits....we are bitless....bit deprived. The NES has 8 bits, we have none.
The number of proverbial dong punches this week has left many of us bit-less.
The story came from some radio station in Cleveland a couple days ago. I twittered it to find out if there was any truth to it, but no one answered me.
I tweeted that on 6 Jan to Tom... No answer, lol.
Look - I'll bite. A guy who's been on national television for the last 2 years broadcasting MNF, with his personality, would be the cat's meow on the recruiting trail. I mean, who wouldn't want to play for that guy? Shows up with his super bowl bling, gets up at 3:17 am to watch OSU film...I get it. But unless Tirico has been working some Jedi Mind tricks in the booth, I just don't see us prying him out of the booth. He just looks like he's having too damn much fun.
if not gruden, maybe tirico?
What could be more fun then running out of the tunnel,touching the banner and leading the UofM to a national championship?
I can't really see that this would be a bad idea. He would be a good face for the university, great to sell the "brand", and would be great in recruiting. His hiring of coordinators/assistants would be the tell all on if he will succeed. This is just my two cents.
Her Gruden tweet has been deleted. Fox2 is so weak.
Everytime i check her twitter, the tweet is still there. Apparently its been deleted but I still see it.
Twitter is saying Gruden was spotted in Ann Arbor......I can't handle the rumors any more. Perhaps I should turn off computer until Monday.
everyone in Ann Arbor, shut your computer off, get out your iphone, fire up the mgoblog app, and HIT THE STREETS. Track him down!!!
would lead me to believe it is false. The guy works for them, if anyone would know about an interview it would be ESPN and yet nothing about it from them at all that I can find. Seems hard to believe that if this were true ESPN would let others break the story...
that would get the scoop. I'm telling you guys - he would be the shiz-nit, but I don't see it happening.
interesting interview and very awkward reaction to the question regarding his future
He is leaving the door open for sure this time around unlike last time.
First time I have seen that interview. Interesting reaction for sure.
It's rare to see the Mad Hatter caught off guard...Also on the ESPN thing...they seem very similar to other huge news outlets where they will wait it out until they confirm stuff. Could you imagine how long the bottomline would take to scroll if they reported every rumor?