CC: Rich Rodriguez

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can we Kiss and Makeup? come on back we were wrong....

allintime23

October 3rd, 2014 at 5:40 AM ^

Oh you mean like we will be this year? We've already got that 31-0 going for us. I can't wait to go to east lansing and have spray tanned guys scream in my face on my walk back to my car.

ThadMattasagoblin

October 3rd, 2014 at 3:51 AM ^

Both Hoke are RR were some of the worst coaches in Michigan history. Just because he beats Oregon 4 years later doesn't mean that he should have survived Michigan after having the 120th ranked defense out of 120 teams. We needed a change and we screwed it up. Saban failed at Miami. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.

hazardc

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:53 AM ^

because

he

was

not

allowed

to

hire

a

quality

defensive

coordinator

 

 

I am not sure how to convey this to you in a way you will understand. No wonder brady got the job, people  who think like you are the ones who would think some dude who can't even see his own dick is able to light a fire under a football team.  RR runs with his players, brady waddles with his inhaler. 

 

uminks

October 3rd, 2014 at 4:17 AM ^

The AD, press and most fans were against him by his third season. Not sure the AD would have been supported even if he stayed. There's a lot of pressure at Michigan to win! RR did not operate well under this pressure. I think he is happier in AZ, coaching up two star athletes and wining 7 to 8 games per season. Though, he may get 10 wins this season.

Hoke has proven he does not belong coaching at this level. Hoke needs to go along with Brandon!

flashOverride

October 3rd, 2014 at 6:28 AM ^

Michigan paying for its arrogance, guess it had to happen eventually. Oh well, six more days to Red Wings, a month to basketball, somehow the Lions are 3-1, and hopefully more than a few more days of the Tigers...this season's lost and next year looks murky.

chatster

October 3rd, 2014 at 6:35 AM ^

Having followed Syracuse football since the days when Ernie Davis was making Heisman history, I was extremely worried that Rich Rodriguez had sealed his quick exit from Michigan when he made what was the biggest blunder of his coaching career after the 2008 season – the firing of Scott Shafer and the hiring of the most inept, incompetent replacement he could have chosen, a man who had been the worst head coach/co-defensive coordinator in all of Division One college football during the previous four seasons.
 
I don’t believe this was mentioned in John U. Bacon’s book Three and Out, but I believe that there were posts on Syracuse fan boards that the choice Rodriguez made was dictated in part by his wife who had become friendly with the wife of Shafer’s chosen replacement when they were together at Big East football coaches’ events when Rodriguez was coaching at West Virginia.
 
Some were impressed that Shafer’s replacement had been defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos when John Elway led the Broncos to Super Bowl championships in the 1990s.  They overlooked the man’s having been fired by Denver and then by the Kansas City Chiefs when he made those defenses among the worst in the NFL. They ignored the man’s record in leading Syracuse to the only two double-digit-loss seasons in the school’s long football history when his teams were 10-28 (3-25 in the Big East) during his four seasons there.
 
At Syracuse, his defenses were ranked 57th in 2005, 107th in 2006, 111th in 2007 and 101st in 2008.  (It took him a year to get his full disastrous defensive system in place.)  It should’ve come as no surprise to anyone who’d followed his teams at Syracuse that his Michigan defenses would be ranked 82nd in 2009 and 110th in 2010.  As defensive coordinator for Doug Marrone at Syracuse, Scott Shafer’s defenses were ranked 37th in 2009 and 7th in 2010.
 
We’ll never know what might’ve happened; but IF Rodriguez either had not fired Scott Shafer or had selected a half-decent replacement for Shafer, he still might be coaching at Michigan and Devin Gardner might’ve flourished at Michigan as the top-rated dual threat quarterback he’d been as a high school senior.

bjk

October 3rd, 2014 at 10:54 AM ^

post-UM careers, whatever became of Gerg?
As defensive coordinator, Robinson was able to turn one of the worst defenses in the Big 12 to one of the best in a shockingly short amount of time, especially considering his 2-year absence from coaching preceded by high-profile failures at Syracuse and Michigan.[10] By the end of the season, Texas led the conference in sacks.[11]
What is it about this place that brings out "special" performances from just about everyone these days?

chatster

October 3rd, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^

He’s now Defensive Coordinator at 1-3 San Jose State, the team that played Minnesota in a rain storm two weeks ago and limited the Golden Gophers to seven yards passing by a backup quarterback . . . and only 380 yards on the ground (6.6 yards per carry), so he’s still performing his magic.
 
To his credit, his San Jose Spartan defense also held Auburn to 358 yards rushing (7.2 yards per carry) and 493 total yards, plus limited Nevada to 446 yards total offense last week, after getting off to a great start in holding North Dakota to 244 yards in the season opener.

Leonhall

October 3rd, 2014 at 6:40 AM ^

RR had his chance at Michigan, granted Hoke has been bad for the past 2 years but up until this season we were competitive, that's more than RR where we were embarrassed, sort of like this year. I just don't see RR leading a BIG program.


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Webber's Pimp

October 3rd, 2014 at 7:15 AM ^

UM had it everything it needed in coach Rodriguez. An offensive minded coach for the offensive game of football that is played in the 21st century. And then we fired him because he wasn't a "Michigan Man". Simply put - we BLEW IT! And we will continue to pay a heavy price as long as this nostaligic and antiquated concept continues to dictate the conversation. God speed boys.

ND Sux

October 3rd, 2014 at 7:34 AM ^

your memory is extremely selective.  We fired the guy because of the epic losses to every team with a pulse and a decent defense.  How easily we forget the ST blunders too.  We were a very bad football team, period. 

As posted above, his fate was sealed when he stubbornly refused to let his first D Coordinator run the defense he was good at.  Then he hired GERG and it was all but over. 

ChasingRabbits

October 3rd, 2014 at 10:20 AM ^

No, his fate was sealed before he arrived in A2 and Michigan would not let him pay his DC to come to UM.  His fate was sealed when som eof his players were conviced to leave by the previous coaching stafff. His fate was sealed when the arrogant Michigan fanbase refused to accept him or his football philosophy, because "this is Michigan forgodsakes". 

Best part of all...  we all proved Dantonio right. 

 

mtzlblk

October 6th, 2014 at 3:14 PM ^

he did not hire GERG....AD forced GERG upon him.

M was still vastly underpaying coaching staff at the time and the budget for DC was in the $200-250,000 range.......you simply are not going to get anything but bottom of the barrel for that amount.....and we did.

Big_H

October 3rd, 2014 at 7:52 AM ^

LMAO... Funny how things work. Definitely when there was ppl like me who wanted to give him another year and got thrashed for saying that.. Now look. hahahaha Michigan fans are insane.

Gitback

October 3rd, 2014 at 9:03 AM ^

College football, hell, SPORTS, is fickle and can change in an instant.  We're all bemused/bewildered by the state of our program, especially when we look at Arizona right now; but at the same time we could be reading an article about RR getting fired from Arizona in two years saying:

"despite memorable victories against the likes of Oregon, Rodriguez could never win consistently enough to hold onto his job.  His ability to beat very good teams from time to time only made the losses to clearly inferior opponents all the more frustrating as his tenure wore on."

Sports, man.  It rarely fits into a neat little narrative, despite the fact that this is how its always packaged and sold to us.  

Right now it feels like this story is going to play out a certain way; Michigan continues to flounder while the coach they ran out of town has wild success somewhere else.  Dantonio's prophecy fulfilled.  What a perfect comeuppance... for everyone but us.  But this story is going to take many twists and turns before the final chapter is written and, in the end, it probably isn't going to be quite so "paint-by-numbers" as it looks today.

Although today kinda does suck...

pdgoblue25

October 3rd, 2014 at 9:17 AM ^

The offense NEVER worked against good teams.

The Illinois game. 

Wisconsin running the ball 30 STRAIGHT TIMES.  Easily the worst fucking thing I've ever witnessed in terms of Michigan football

Rod lost his last 3 games by a total of 137-49. 

485 yards to Miss St. 

Nailbiters against Purdue, Indiana, UMASS! 

For the love of christ, the 3-3-5.

Deciding that we can play football without recruiting OFFENSIVE LINEMEN

And if all of that shit wasn't bad enough, he was able to do something that no other Michigan coach in history has accomplished.  He successfully gave MSU the time, and the opportunity to become a force in college football.

Avon Barksdale

October 3rd, 2014 at 9:43 AM ^

His system didn't really entail needing a dominant offensive line. If you could stand in front of someone for 0.9 seconds while the QB blast was ran or the screen/pop pass was thrown, you could play offensive line at Michigan from 2008-10. 

Not even our HIGHLY TOUTED offensive linemen Hoke has recruited can stay in front of anyone 0.9 seconds right now, and they are required to actually give 3 seconds which doesn't happen often.  It's funny you make fun of his offensive line which included Taylor Lewan, David Molk, and Schofield (all of whom are in the NFL).

Please tell me, what three individuals on our offensive line right now are going to the NFL? None, yes none, would be the correct answer.

Alvin Wistert

October 3rd, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^

All this without graduating one player he recruited. He should have had 19 & 20 year olds competing with Wisconsin's 22 & 23 year olds. I would take a close win even a basketball on grass 67-65 win rather than be shutout for the first time in 30 years ending the longest streak. I'm sorry to have wasted this space. Nothing I could say could make you realize we made a mistake a Rich is a good coach.

ldoublee

October 3rd, 2014 at 11:20 AM ^

Perhaps RR would consider returning if we gave him "fuck you" money and the power to "review" Dave Brandon's job performance before firing him. 

We could even offer to let his wife take the embarrassing photos of Dave and his family solemnly driving out of Schemmy Hall after being dismissed. 

 

phork

October 3rd, 2014 at 7:12 PM ^

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post?id=100044

Didn't see this posted:

 

Even after Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon told the Michigan Daily student newspaper that he has no plans to fire embattled coach Brady Hoke, it’s hard to imagine Hoke keeping his job unless the Wolverines can turn their season around dramatically. But Rich Rodriguez’s success at Arizona should serve as a cautionary tale for the Wolverines. Rodriguez was one of the country’s hottest coaches when he left West Virginia for Michigan after the 2007 season. He went 15-22 with the Wolverines and was fired after three seasons. Rodriguez told ESPN’s “SVP and Russillo Show” this week that he didn’t think he was given enough time to establish his program at Michigan. “There were a lot of things, and a lot of things that probably people don’t know about that we went through when we got there,” Rodriguez said. “We knew we had some issues to fix when we got there. Without going through the whole story, we thought we finally had them fixed and were on our way. We thought we were getting better. By the time we got to Year 4 or Year 5, we thought we’d be ready to compete for championships. “We never got to Year 4. We wanted to see it through, and we never got that opportunity, and that was unfortunate.” Rodriguez was a good coach before he arrived at Michigan and was a good coach when he left. Maybe it’s not Michigan’s coaches who are the problem.

tedheadfred

October 4th, 2014 at 3:44 AM ^

How convenient it is to forget the week before where zona needed an onside kick and a hail mary in successive series to beat a previously 1-11 cal team at home. No thx.