CC: John Harbaugh Totally Out of the Picture, Right?
I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything, but JOHN Harbaugh is totally out of the picture, right? Back in November, we were saying the short list would be "Either one of the Harbaughs, or Les Miles." Now I'm not hearing anyone on any board say that he's in the mix.
The Ravens are 9-5 and they're still in the playoff picture, so that's a factor, I guess. But we're down to just one Harbaugh, right?
December 15th, 2014 at 12:17 PM ^
By the way, Sam seemed to say on WTKA this morning that the Final Four are Jim Harbaugh, Miles, Mullen and Mora. I got the strong impression he thinks it'll be one of those four.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:19 PM ^
So I guess that answers your question.
December 15th, 2014 at 1:27 PM ^
What about one of John's coaches? He has a 24 year old assistant by the name of Jay Harbaugh - he's been with the Ravens for three years and is the son of... wait for it... John Harbaugh.
Jay isn't married so he doesn't have a wife who only likes the West Coast.
December 15th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^
Jay is Jim's son, not John's.
December 15th, 2014 at 1:59 PM ^
You're right - that's what I meant to type - too many "J" names.
December 15th, 2014 at 2:43 PM ^
My names Jay, can I be considered for the job?
December 15th, 2014 at 9:25 PM ^
This is perfect. Jim comes to Michigan for 20 years. Jim decides it is time to retire. Jay takes over for 20 years. Harbaugh. Harbaugh. Harbaugh.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:20 PM ^
If Harbaugh stays in the NFL and Michigan can take Miles, Mullen, or Mora, I will be happy with that.
December 15th, 2014 at 3:02 PM ^
I could live with Miles, Mullen, and Mora.
Oh, wait . . . what do you mean we don't get all three?
December 15th, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^
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December 15th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^
What is Rivlas' final four list or is it a paywalled article?
December 15th, 2014 at 1:43 PM ^
I can tell you only beause it's not a secret. There's really only 3.
- Harbaugh
- Stoops
- Miles
Witthingham and Bielema are apparently "in the mix" but way down the list.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^
From what I am hearing from folks that use TOS they are saying Harbaugh, Stoops, Miles, and a fourth candidate that I cannot recall. I think it was Richt, but they have since said he will very likely stay at Ga.
So if we miss on Harbaugh, I think Stoops may be number two.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:28 PM ^
Stoops would be amazing. Talk about a consolation prize.
December 15th, 2014 at 3:09 PM ^
it's a little scary that the only options on our list are:
- An NFL NFC Champion coach,
- A CFB National Champion coach,
- Another CFB National Champion coach.
It's nice to have "stretch goals" and all, but man, this list is all-or-nothing.
December 15th, 2014 at 2:24 PM ^
No that's wrong information. According to Colin Cowherd, we already hired a coach the weekend before last, and it was apparently a guy we hadn't heard before but that we're really happy with now.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:33 PM ^
I'll be very happy.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:33 PM ^
Didn't he say that if one of them were offered the job, it was his gut feeling that they'd take it? IHeartRadio (which is again infuriating to use) kept cutting out during that section. Was he talking about Miles?
December 15th, 2014 at 2:56 PM ^
as part of any top four. I don't think he even mentioned him at all. His guess list was Jim H, Miles, Mora and Payton with the last three in no order.
December 15th, 2014 at 3:09 PM ^
December 15th, 2014 at 6:07 PM ^
it wasnt mullen. stop lieing. it was shawn pytion the n o head coach
December 15th, 2014 at 12:18 PM ^
No. I don't think he was ever really in it though. I know some people in the media floated the idea around, but I think the only reasoning was:
- Is a Harbaugh.
- He's already won a Super Bowl, so what does he have left to gain in the NFL?
- Mattison was his DC for a time in Baltimore, so Harbaugh would be able to re-unite with him.
December 15th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
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December 15th, 2014 at 12:18 PM ^
I doubt he was ever really in the picture, since his job should be relatively safe after winning the Super Bowl just two years ago. I think the idea of his candidacy was based on the Ray Rice thing and John's reported-and-later-denied dissent over the Ravens keeping Rice initially.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^
I LIKE THESE
December 15th, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^
John has no interest in the job and is solid with Baltimore. There was only a moment when it seemed he might shake loose from there and then speculation could begin but it never materiaized. We're NOT taking him from the Ravens.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:25 PM ^
Along with 110,000* of his best friends?
*87,000
December 15th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^
That seems like a really low number. Are you sure he only has 110,000 friends?
December 15th, 2014 at 12:44 PM ^
So you're saying there's a chance!
December 15th, 2014 at 12:22 PM ^
Never was. I like Sam's final four list. That makes it safe to say that IF that list is correct and in the right order, then either Harbaugh or Miles will be the next head coach becase Miles is not turning it down. I'd be pretty damn happy with either one of these guys.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:25 PM ^
I'm not a huge Mullen fan. But, if it ends up being Harbaugh, MIles or Stoops - it's pretty hard to complain about either of those three.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:30 PM ^
Stoops would be #2 on my list, but I was just going off of what Sam listed. If Harbaugh is considered a grand slam hire, then Stoops would be a 3 run shot.
December 15th, 2014 at 1:30 PM ^
I would say Stoops is a grand slam also. He's had more success in college than Harbaugh and he is not a flight risk. I would be confident that he would be spending 10+ years with us whereas with Harbaugh we will be paying through the moon for maybe 5 years.
They're both exceedingly good coaches but take away the Michigan connection from Harbaugh and I think Stoops is a better college option.
If we get either of those guys it would be exceedingly good and we would finally challenge for the Big Ten crown and perhaps other post season accolades.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:35 PM ^
but doesn't "either" imply two? Either of those three just doesn't sound right to me, but as I say, I'm not expert.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:49 PM ^
I believe you're correct, good sir. Probably should've been "either of these three" vs. those. (or one of these three) After a quick google search of grammar nazi, this was my favorite - even though my original post wasn't due to a typo but rather my poor English 260 GSI in the basement Angell Hall circa 2001. (Can't blame me, nobody blames themselves for anything in 2014)
December 15th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^
"I wasn't and english major ... ." The only thing that surprises me is that I didn't type those words in a critique of someone else's writing. It's 100% the sort of thing I'd do!
I wasn't an English major either (hah!), but you're right - it should be "any of those" if there are more than two options.
/reviews own reply to ensure there are no typos - likely fails/
December 15th, 2014 at 12:51 PM ^
Henry, how the hell did I miss that?
December 15th, 2014 at 2:33 PM ^
I am not a fan of Mullen either........................in 2 years no one will know who he is.
December 15th, 2014 at 8:56 PM ^
Seems a little harsh. I'm sure somebody will remember who Dan Mullen is. At the very least his family isn't going to forget him
December 15th, 2014 at 3:10 PM ^
The first comment above was wrong. His guess list after Harbaugh, he made it clear these were educated guesses was Mora, Miles and Payton in an unknown order.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^
Other than the article I read that he would like to return to Michigan with his family and retire as the Michigan Head Coach. It has been pretty quiet, almost too quiet.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:29 PM ^
we'll just complete the ol switcheroo in 5-7 years... here's the plan.
Hire Jim now - turn everything around. He's here until 2018-2020. Then at some point during those years, Jim and John just switch jobs. Everything works out.
December 15th, 2014 at 1:21 PM ^
What article?
December 15th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^
December 15th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^
Someone please tell me why Mullen seems to be a good fit. For some reason I'm just not impressed with him.
December 15th, 2014 at 12:26 PM ^
I just don't see it!
December 15th, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^
Nice analysis by both of you there.