CC: Impact of Urban and OSU

a new coach. He sounds like he's comfortable without have much pressure to win. Any big time job comes with high expectations and limited patience. There's nothing unusual about Michigan in that regard. Does anybody really believe that Hoke was fired because of his record vs OSU? It was hardly a John Cooper situation.

Losing to OSU didn't accelerate Carr's retirement.  He considered retiring a few times over the 2003-07 period.  

I would rather have anyone else there to be honest.

I take it that you meant that the loss of Addazio, who was part of two national title teams, helped produce the decline. Although I am not too enthused about Addazio coming to UM, he has helped turn around BC too.

As far as Tebow, remember that UM beat Urban in Tebow's last year.  Urban's last good year was the final year of one of his prized players: the now accused triple murderer, Hernandez--who was convicted of assault at Fla. Around that time, I think he also lost the Pouncey twins--who were were Hernandez' pals and have publicly endorsed him during the murder investigations.  The fact that Urban recruited these types, I think, also helped do him in.  By all accounts, Urban's undoing was his loss of control of the team. 

haha my apologies. I hope they're reasonable...this entire process has me doubting my own sanity. I blame Brian Cook. 

that last bit is a great point. thank you. 

I think the OP nuanced their initial comment to address some concerns. Sad to see him get negged for it bc I think its an interesting bit of "info" assuming its authentic. 

You are right to say such fear would exacerbate the problem. 

That said, I am worried about how well position Ohio State is for the forseeable future. 

I suppose my questions were mostly directed at what would prompt a coach to have such concerns. Coaches are an odd and maniacle bunch so to have a coach express concerns is an interesting and rare bit of insight. Of course, this coach may not actually exist and this could all be for nothing but, I was more interested in whether these fears were a lack of confidence in one's own ability (to coach and win against Meyer), or a lack of faith in their approach to building a program/team (in a time frame the fanbase would have the patience for), or if these feelings were motivated by the current climate at Michigan (a climate this blog reports on but also influences and gives voice to).

Yes coaching was an issue this year and is vital to success going forward but obviously that isnt everything. 

Was this coach expressing fear of a rival or fear of a rival under the conditions currently present at Michigan. I mean, everyone is referring to Harbaugh as a savior. That's not to be taken lightly. 

I think reservations can say as much about Michigan as they do about the coach expressing them. 

And that what's said about either part is not necessarily or overwhelming positive or negative, but a mix of both. Its easy and all too common for people to react to reservations such as this with "He doesnt want to win, doesnt have the right attitude, dont want him around, etc." Again, that may be true, but I dont think its particularly helpful or interesting.