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...talks about how UConn hasn't been in contact and how they're out. (HT: UMHoops)
Jalen, Burke, and Simmons.
Mike Hart the heavy favorite in the trolling competition
just what the Pistons need: a third string center. Joe Dumars was replaced by a mean ol' alien a few years back you guys.
this would be a close approximation of hypothetical graduation speech
no you guys they're just super pumped about COLLLLLLLLLLLLEGE
not a surprise
premature congrats. One thing we can be sure of: he'll take fewer asinine penalties than Abdelkader
Thanks to ugly transitions between Fulmer/Kiffin/Dooley/Davis, Tennessee is on the edge of APR penalties for football.
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strong indictment of AAU right heah
Glockner sides with justice
a good cause, and a good time
good job gents
I'm gonna go get the papers get the papers...
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Though I, like many others, would prefer a quick decision from Brandon (as much for my own peace of mind as for the sense of stability it would bring the program), I can see one scenario where waiting does make sense from Brandon's perspective.
If he wants to keep Rodriguez or if Harbaugh is leaning toward staying at least another year at Stanford, Brandon could either endorse Rodriguez immediately or wait. If he endorses him immediately, critics of the coach freak out and scream "But just lost Ohio Statez three timez arrrrghghghghghg!!!" They will also openly pine for their man-crush, Jim Harbaugh.
On the other hand, if Brandon waits until Harbaugh is no longer available (and I think his desire to stay at Stanford could fall into the 95% of stuff that we apparently don't see), he takes away the primary (and really the only viable) option advocated by those wanting Rodriguez ousted. Without Harbaugh in the discussion, the decision to retain Rodriguez becomes a lot easier for all but the staunchest Rodriguez haters (and maybe a few of Brady Hoke's family members).
If Brandon could do this while sticking to his public story that "this is the timeline" and perhaps quietly reassuring recruits that no change is in the works (note Dee Hart's backtracking and Greg Brown's plans for early enrollment) it isn't a bad plan of action, all things considered.
Of course, I could just be making all of this up.
It is spelled HOKEAMANIA. Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!
I find myself in agreement with most things I read that you post, but I disagree somewhat here. Actually, I agree this could be his thinking, but if it is I disagree with his handling of it.
There is no question DB has a rationale for what he is doing at this point. The worst part for us (as fans) is it won't become evident until after this is all over.
The ONLY way any of this makes sense is if JH is brought in following the bowl game. Otherwise this delay has done nothing other than cause a great deal of uncertainty around a program that has had enough to deal with over the past few years.
DB made a mistake when he made the timeline for his decision public. The only one who needed to know was RR, but by making it public he opened himself up to all the criticism that has followed. Had he not mentioned it, he could have easily adjusted it without looking like he made a mistake.
This has caused him to make another possible mistake (only time will tell to be sure). If RR comes back this timeline was absultely a mistake and I haven't seen a single reason that would justify why it would be a good idea for this decision to take this much time should that be the direction he takes.
It has been mentioned that a good CEO doesn't make decision based on popular opinion, and I agree. I also believe, however, that a good CEO recognizes when he has made a mistake and doesn't put his pride above the company he represents. He acknowledges a mistake was made and rectifies it.
A good CEO is also a leader who isn't afraid of making tough decisions if it is in the best interest of the organization. I don't think DB (if he is a good CEO) is waiting for the decision to make itself ( as you suggest may be the case in your post) and if he is, I would put forth that he isn't a good CEO.
To close, I guess what I am saying is the only way any of this is justifiable is if JH is coming (Full disclosure,:I hope RR stays). If that isn't the plan, DB should be keen enough to understand that things have changed and therefore his timeline should as well. Sticking to a timeline simply because you made one is a little silly at this point.
I would much rather he just publicly say "Rodriguez is the coach for next year. Deal." I guess I'm just speculating (like everyone else) but like you I have been very puzzled by Brandon's stance and don't really see the benefit either way. This was basically an exercise in giving him the benefit of the doubt.
I would note that in this scenario he isn't necessarily letting the decision make itself in the future, but rather has made up his mind or had it made up for him (either he wants Rodriguez and knows it or he knows Harbaugh isn't coming and has decided in that event that Rodriguez is the best option). It would allow him to stay even handed (after the season, repeat, after the season) while letting the course of events he knows is coming (Harbaugh gets an extension or takes NFL job) deflect some of the animosity and criticism away from the program. If part of Brandon's job is to shape opinion and manage expectations, I can see a big benefit in advocating Rodriguez over Hoke as opposed to Rodriguez over Harbaugh. If Brandon can get that result by simply sticking to his guns on the timeline (while hopefully reassuring hesitant recruits) then I can at least see some logic behind the decision.
Yes, and perhaps I didn't come across clearly in my post that you certainly lay out a plausible reason for what is transpiring. I think of all the scenarios I have seen thrown around yours is definitely one of the most logical.
I guess my main point wasn't that your hypothesis was wrong, just that even in the circumstances you put forth, I still think the delay is a mistake. However, as we all know, my opinion isn't a big factor where DB is concerned.
I am becoming concerned over his competency. Let us not forget when Brandon was at Domino Pizza the brand and product suffered badly to the point where Domino ran commercials acknowledging they were bad.
The coaching situation at Michigan is being handled in a similar fashion. Rather than being aggressive in going out and getting the right guy for the job, Brandon fiddles while the hallowed halls of Michigan football degenerates into being the butt of jokes nationally. Maybe the next time they run a commercial regarding MIchigan, it will say "we screwed up but trust us will do better".
What a disaster if Harbaugh signs the extension. WE are stuck with a coach who has one foot off the cliff while singing "You Raise Me Up". Future recruits will roll theirs eyes.
for anyone who didn't click through, is really this part:
"We have a proposal in front of Jim and he's indicated he plans to accept it," Bowlsby said Sunday.
"We have a proposal in front of Jim and he's indicated he plans to accept it," Bowlsby said Sunday.
The "indicated he plans to accept it" part seems, you know, kinda vaguely possibly might be meaningful, or perhaps not, or wishful thinking, or genuinely factual, or just splunge.
"You know, for a bartender/bookie, you're pretty judgmental."
I have listened to all this DB love and posts about the undying faith so many have in the guy, but I have to say, with each passing day my faith in the guy diminishes.
This is the first evidence we have in which to judge DB as an AD.. None of his past really correlates that well to being an AD. In this instance, I can't see how anyone thinks this timeline isn't a massive mistake. Beyond this, no one can point to anything to say "remember when DB did this and everything worked out....just have faith". He hasn't done anything to this point to warrant that faith.
People keeping defending DB by saying things like he isn't wielding to the bitching of fans and media but that is drastically understating what is going on here. Due to the uncertainty of the situation we are losing ground with current targets and it looks like we may possibly lose some of those already considered to be in the fold because of the way this has been handled. To say the only purpose speeding up his agenda would hold would be to satisfy fans and media is absurd.
I am a Cardiologist but have many friends in the business world and I can say that there aren't many CEO's that don't recognize that there will be times when situations dictate that you need to abandon what you thought was the correct course of action and move in another direction. Changing your stance or gameplan because of a change in situation doesn't make you a weak leader, it makes you a smart one.
The biggest mistake he made was providing a concrete timeline for his evaluation, there was really no need to do that with anyone outside the program. He has a chance to put his pride aside and do what is in the best interest of the program now, even though it goes against his original plan. If he can't do that, I will say he has made two monumental mistakes in the short time he has been the AD at UM.
I am not saying DB won't turn out to be a great AD, but I am questioning all the faith people have in him considering the evidence we have to go on thus far.
however I disagree with the notion that he needs to go against his original plan. Wouldn't that negatively affect him as a leader? Going back on your plans that were repeated over and over again? It's not really a pride thing necessarily...I think going back against his word would be detrimental...people might look at it and say that when it came time to put his word to actions, he faulted and went back on it. Doesn't that negatively reflect his leadership?
And by that same token, wouldn't we then be able to say that we can't ever trust what DB says, because he changes his mind all the time?
I'm not a lunatic. Seriously, i'm not.
Ok, maybe just a little bit.
This is largely dependent on what the end result is. If he brings JH in, then the timeline was likely essential and something he had very little control over. JH may have said he can't do it until after the bowl or all bets are off.
However, if his intent has been to retain RR then changing his timeline doesn't mean he isn't a good leader, nor that he isn't trustworthy. As I have said, the biggest problem is that he made the timeline public and thus opened himself up to public scrutiny. I don't understand why he had to be so specific to the media, but he was.
Good leaders know when a mistake has been made and they take responsibility and rectify the problem. Not even CEO's (or leaders as you say in your post) are immune from making mistakes. The really good ones are able to recognize they made them and aren't shy about taking responsibility and fixing them.
How many great military leaders have made mistakes while commanding troops in various wars? Do you think they sit back and let things spiral out of control while their troops are getting killed simply because they feel "I am a great leader and if I signal a retreat, people might question whether I really am a great leader or not". Leaders can change their minds as circumstances change and it doesn't make them bad leaders.
To finish, as I said previously, if JH was the target all the while then DB hasn't made any mistake and this timeframe was essential. However, if he has always planned on keeping RR, I think a good leader (as you put it) would have re-evaluated the situation as it has changed and adjusted his timeline.
It isn't like he would have to come out looking like a fool. It could simply be said that the evaluation didn't take as long as initially thought.
I agree with you, for the most part. I'd just add that DB did, IMO, expertly handle the sanctions situation. Major violations. Minimal penalties. He did the right thing. He handled it smoothly. Well done.
This is how you make an executive decision as a CEO. It is not an impulsive job (unless you are a founding CEO whom tend to be impulsive by nature). You have to weigh all the facts in hand, and see if the failing division can:
A) turn around the existing process issues
B) Has a plan to scale production to meet demand
C) Can maintain operational integrity in the face of growth
D) Has all the resources necessary to execute
Any part of management that can't manage the above has to change. Any managers that stick their neck out for underperforming staff can't effectively manage.
I actually think the reason DB is waiting until January is because he is actually a man of his word and is evaluating the totality of the program. He wants to know what Rich's plan is for growing the offense, fixing the defense, advancing recruiting and marketing the brand. If Rich is willing to go out on a limb for Greg or Brandon doesn't see a commitment from Rich to address the growth of the WHOLE team then he won't have a choice but to let him go. But that is something he won't know until they have real time to sit down, discuss the issues and see if they are on the same page with the issues.
I am actually in the camp that Jim Harbaugh is a red herring. If you are going to replace a CEO you never, ever discuss the job even in back channels yourself with the new CEO. You conduct a CEO search after firing the existing CEO. The reasons are numerous mostly that you can't control leaks from the other side of the recruitment (ie. Harbaugh's people), you don't want the morale of internal personnel to deteriorate to the point they can't do their current job and issues related to tampering.
I think I would be very very surprised if RRod is fired and Harbaugh is announced the next day. I'm not saying Jim couldn't be the next coach, I just don't believe it has even been actioned in anyway.
... DB learned from Bill Martin's ham-fisted handling of finding Lloyd's replacement (Carr not Brady). Dare we forget what it was like to have Michigan's desperate search Page One sports news during the league championships? Spurned by Les "Damn Strong" Miles? (And later by Greg "Chop Wood" Schiano)?
If we get any decommits, (a) good riddance and (b) it's probably more due to the Iowa, PSU, Wisconsin and tOSU losses than anything else.
We may not get Harbaugh. And the "anybody but RichRod" contingent are the same people who start screaming for the backup in Week 2 of the NFL season.
(Edit: one GIGANTIC +1 to The Denarding, who posted while I wrote this. EFZ!).
Some people on here are as bad as the Feep & Detnews. RR is the head coach! Until that changes we have nothing to talk about!
Your just giving more fuel to the papers to keep writing there crap.
When does Les Miles get his extension? I would be pissed if I were Les as his track record is way better than the other two guys.
Rich signed a new contract a few weeks before he left for Michigan too. I wanna say right before WVA's season in 07. Most big time coaches who bolt on a school for a better job do so under a recent contract extension. It is an important move to head off negative recruiting. Smart by Stanford and Harbaugh.
If he signs it, it might show us that there have been little to no discussions between Brandon and Harbaugh. Or it might not even show us that. We're all left to guess.
It looks like I am in the minority that thinks Brandon is playing this pretty well IF we accept as truth this story: he would prefer Harbaugh, but that absent that option, Rich coming back is his next best choice. It sure seems like that is the only story that makes sense given Brandon's approach.
Harbaugh signing an extension doesn't change that possibility, but it might up the cost to Michigan. It definitely adds weight to the public approach of Harbaugh that he is happy at Stanford. It will help a lot with recruiting.
"because character wins in life and character wins on the football field....." 1-11-11
Rodriguez signed an extension a year earlier in response to Alabama's overtures.
Signing an extension may not mean anything with respect to Harbaugh's long term future, but if he signs it he is definitely staying at Stanford next year. Sorry to disappoint, but that is how these things work.
98% of current Michigan alumni players hate RR after the bust... but if he starts winning football games and beats MSU and OSU and goes to the Rose Bowl he'll be ok by them. This has nothing to do with anything other than wins and losses. Now RR is getting more W's than L's and slowly but surely people will start to like him more.
Unless he gets fired and they hire Harbaugh. Then it won't matter. But I don't think that's going to happen.
Stanford's announcement this morning was to be expected. Their AD cannot standby idle while his star HQ leaves, after all their AD has to answer to their alumni and Regent's. At least he an ensured a hire hurdle towards getting JH and a larger buyout from anyone that wants him. If you trust DB then he has anticipated this, which is not uncommon in corp buyouts of execs.
"I want to express my thanks to you, as a graduate of the Michigan of the East, Harvard University." - John F. Kennedy, 1960 Michigan Union
If DB is really just waiting for the bowl game to decide and all of these discussions are just overthinking what he's actually thinking. Wouldnt that be funny??? Wouldnt it? Hello? Is thing on?
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(probably unwelcome for the most part and undoubtedly redundant to at least half the board)
1. Stanford's AD may be trying to force Harbaugh into saying something publicly that he doesn't want to say. Either I'm staying or I'm leaving. This would be similar to what LSU did to Miles when Herbstreit said it was a done deal.
2. If Brandon is undecided at this point, he's not doing anyone any favors. Does beating -- or losing -- to Mississippi freakin' State make a difference to anyone vis-a-vis Rodriguez' status???? If he's decided to keep Rodriguez and won't say it, then he's an idiot. Even if he really meant, he would evaluate things after the Bowl game, the inertia has changed and he can't hold off any more. The only way silence behooves Brandon is if either Harbaugh's undecided or Harbaugh's already decided to take the job, but asked him to wait until after the Bowl game.
1) If Harbaugh is available this year hire him.
2) If no Harbaugh give Rodriguez another year
No other coaching candidate is viable.
This summarizes everything needed on this topic, IMO.
Maybe there never was a controversy. Perhaps the only people talking a coaching change have been the dolphin punching seal clubbers, and the blogosphere. Is it hard to believe that Dave Brandon never had any intentions on changing coaches, and that RRod already knows this, and maybe he has been reassured behind closed doors? Perhaps the only people that have been shortsighted, or mishandled this thing is us.Instaed of anticipating a good match up with a quality opponent in a bowl game. We are yellocuting rumors and unsubstantiated conjecture.
It's a Maize and Blue world, everyone else is just livin' in it
when making this decision. He is going to look at the long term benefits of this decision. Yeah, a good recruiting class would be nice this year, but DB is not factoring that into his decision.
'Cats comin' for y'all
If we're going to get JH, Michigan will buy out his contract regardless. All it is is another news story to generate hits, capitalizing on the drama surrounding the program.
Sorry Guys I'm new to this board be gentle
If JH had an out in his original contract that allowed him to leave if the Michigan job came open and he signs this new extension but that clause stay’s in there. The extension means nothing to us just the other schools trying to get him.
Alright my name is Rudy but I hate Notre Dame