Unless either Stanford or Harbaugh have talked, nobody know whether he has or not.
Hockey pet peeve: "when a teammate tips a puck in on you, which is exactly how my first collegiate goal against happened. Thanks, Copper."
Unless either Stanford or Harbaugh have talked, nobody know whether he has or not.
This is true, although I'd be shocked if Harbaughed signed the extention and Stanford's AD didn't go around bragging about it and what a good job he was doing as AD.
I like it. May come in handy next Thanksgiving weekend.
If the Stanford AD went public with the offer, you can rest assured they would have gone public with the acceptance.
to be re-plated. It's a time-consuming job, but once it's done, the extension will be signed.
You are defiantly in the anti JH side.
Actually, that's not accurate, although I admit that my comments here wouldn't indicate so. I have my issues with Harbaugh, primarily over his past criticisms of the academic stuff, but I've also been of the opinion for a while that he's a damn good coach, equal to if not better than RR. I think what he's done at Stanford is pretty remarkable, and dismissing his victories against USC as nothing significant is pretty weak sauce coming from UM fans, seeing as how the Trojans have thoroughly kicked our ass the last two times we've played them.
I saw online today that JH is one of three coaches in the last 40 years who have taken a 1-11 team to 11-1 within four years (The other two are Johnny Majors at Pitt, and John L. Smith at Louisville).
I think RR deserves another year, but I've concluded that DB is going to let him go, and that Harbaugh is the only obvious replacement. I also think that RR will land another job at a BCS program, and will within short order have his new program playing at a high level. Clemson would seem like a likely place to me, given his past ties there.
One thing I guarantee, though: Harbaugh will very quickly put his foot in his mouth in a major way in dealing with the media once he's UM's coach, and it will be enjoyable to observe the excuse-making defenses of Harbaugh by those who continue to assert that RR has "problems" with the media. Everything I've read about Harbaugh in the last six months indicates to me that he's an aggressive, arrogant dickhead, and this view is confirmed by a close friend who knew him years ago here in A2. Regardless, it's all about wins, and DB knows that very well.
I agree with what you said, but I also think that those who assert that "RR has problems with the media" probably wouldn't make as big a deal of it if we were winning. So regardless of who the coach is next year, his job will be easier if we are winning.
100% correct. Anybody who thinks that the Wolverine fanbase is less nuts about having a winning program than Alabama or Texas or Florida fans is fooling themselves. We're pretty much the same.
The excuses I'm looking forward to are the ones explaining why the team isn't BCS caliber by year three if it were to happen, assuming there is little or no attrition,or devastating injuries. IMO, Firing RR before he graduates a class sets a precedence. Will JH get the same treatment if he hasn't turned things around? He will be in the same situation as far as installing his own style and philosophy of play as well as the players his system. If they take that into consideration and give him all the time he needs to get things done, then that would look bad to me.
Wouldn’t bother me at all, I miss Lloyds venom with the media (the Parcells/B. Knight school of media relation). I think JH comes in and puts MSU/OSU on notice and brings back Fortress Shembechler.
coming to Michigan, the more heads that stick in the sand about the legitimacy of the possibility. The facts are simple, it's the worst three years in program's history(no one person's or one staff's fault); an extremely divided fanbase; and there is an up-and-coming HC that has beaten some of the top teams in his conference multiple times while an embattled coach has struggled to stay on the field with the top teams in the conference during his tenure. The up-and-comer would arguably heal the fractured fanbase(moreso than the embattled coach) and the up-and-comer (not Brady Hoke)would bring a sense of "normacy' to the fanbase for what Michigan has always been known for.
As uncomfortable and even painful as it will most-likely be, I think come January 4th, 5th, or 6th, there will be a change of head coaches at Michigan and most if not all the in-fighting, name-calling and nuclear attacks will cease.
As much as I like RR as a person and respect him as a man of integrity and his football knowledge, I am more than ready for the wait to be over and the change to happen, because all this bullshit between the two sides takes all the fun out of football season.
I am more than ready for the wait to be over and the change to happen, because all this bullshit between the two sides takes all the fun out of football season.
I agree with you, but I believe it will be a while before the bullshit between the two sides goes away.
No shit. For all the invidious distinctions people like to make between Lloyd and RR, wasn't there pretty much the same bullshit directed toward Lloyd during all the 8-4ish years? I think MGoBlog is a haven, for as much as I disagree with jmblue, dahblue, and Los Barcos's conclusions about the state and future of the program, I never feel like they are arguing in bad faith. Reasonable people can come to very different conclusions about what the best course of action is.
I think it is beyond ludicrous to fire a coach after year 3 of a massive transformation of a program who has already built a top-10 or -20 offense (depending on the metrics), has the reigning B10/11/12 OPOY entering his second of three years as a dilithium-powered death machine, and who returns 19 or 20 of 22 starters, depending on how you count Dorrestein, Webb, and Ezeh.
I also think that ignoring all the good RR has done, all the credibility he has with his players, all the blood, sweat, and stretching (zing!) they have given for him, both sends a terrible message about what UM is all about--if all we're hunting for is wins, then we're no different from the SEC, and seriously underestimates the morale problem JH will have if he coaches next year.
Nevertheless, I can understand the counterarguments, and they've been made cogently by several posters here. But to assume that somehow Harbaugh will quiet the "just win, baby" throng is totally naive, IMO. Even if he does win immediately, which I have my doubts about, he will eventually have tough seasons, just as Lloyd, Urban, Brown, et al. have. Then where will we be?
Thanks for the kind words. Twas a time when a guy couldn't mention a possible concern about RR without getting a giant neg bomb.
RR is a good guy and a great coach but just has not been a fit here for many reasons. I suspect that we will move to JH if he is truly available and ready to come to M, and RR will end up landing on his feet somewhere else.
Inaction = not interested
season or any season. I'm not saying JH will magically do anything, but his track record at a much less prestigous football program turned things around quicker (he inherited 1-11) and was more sucessful against the big boys in his conference(he beat USC at USC when he was a HUGE underdog)
RR's methods, while successful at WVU have not been as such here. I know he has only had three years. But after three years, one would think we could at least compete with someon in the top half of the conference. The stats don't lie, and as any coach will admit, they are paid to win and it's not happening to this point.
For those of you that think JH isn't any better or is worse than RR, why is he considered the hottest coach in the country right now? He is winning and winning in a conference that is much better than the Big East. If you put Stanford in the Big Ten this season, my guess is they would be in the top two.
Is Ed 'Too Tall' Jones too tall?
What, I don't know
I think its important not to underestimate Jimmy's background. His father was a football coach, he came to Michigan - won the starting QB job and it was Jimmy that started an unbelievable run of starting QB's going into the pro's (including Brady ...that ended with Henne). His brother is an NFL head coach ... for a team known for its defense. In fact - Stanford's new DC came from the Ravens staff. JH has been raised with football his entire life. Family get togethers are still most likely all about football.
Yeah ... he's arrogant and cocky (no different than when he was a player), but not as much as Saban ... b/c Saban's also a prick..
If ... repeat IF... DB fires RR ... then the new coach better be Jimmy ... or what we've seen on this board so far will seem minor compared what will happen then.
Go Blue !
Regardless of what happens with RR, people need to understand that he's no longer a hot coach. If he gets canned, somebody will take him, of course. But he won't be targeted by any of the big boys. Their fan-bases won't like it. RR, like it or not, is considered sort of a loser right now.
Whatever happens I want Michigan to play osu for the division title next year. The teams have to meet in the championship game for the first big ten championship.
has to have a plan when he keeps everyone in limbo about Rich Rod. The question I have, is that if Harbaugh is not coming, then what else could be the reason for his actions?
Ok well...... My intentions were to make my own post. But unexplicabtly I cannot create my own post until I have accumulated 100 points. Frankly (no my name is not Frank) I have been reading mgoblog posts for some time. Just last week I figured out what CC meant, and it was a personal reward. Needless to say I am not an internet guy as I am too busy. But I do my best to keep Satirdays in the fall free. I am an alum ('99) and as I said I have been reading posts for about three months about CC (haha I finally got it). Call me a MICHIGAN MAN or ELITIST or whatever your words for a COACHING CHANGE are. but it its time for Jimmy Harbaugh. There are definite reasons for this decision in my mind and I will do my best to explain my reasons.....
1. BO RULES
RR basically asked for permission to be a "Michigan Man" . DUDE you dont ask to be a Michigan Man. You either are or your'e not. CASE CLOSED The jury is out as to whether or not we want that but DONT ASK.
2. IM TIRED. SWEATERVEST has taken our rivalry out of conversation. He has essentially ruined us. We now talk about our rivalry with teams such as little brother. Our program has deeply declined when little brother is owning us.
3. Lets discuss this CC in terms of halftime locker rooms speeches when we are playing OSU next year.....
1. RR "Well we have made some progress this year, we have NINE wins and we are only down by 17, if our defense shows up in the second half we will be in it. You go run out of that tunnel with the understanding that we have no tradition against the buckeyes and do YOUR BEST!!!!!!!! GO BLUE I WANNA BE A MICHIGAN MAN>>>>>>
2. Harbaugh.... I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU ARE GETTING YOUR ASSES KICKED ALL OVER THE FIELD BO IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE. Raise your hand if you want sweatervest to get BEAT BEAT BEAT.
SEE THE DIFFERENCE
I'm really glad you weren't able to make your own post.
FYI: You spelled "Saturday" incorrectly.