Ignore this comment. Pretend it was about bacon.
no wonder we hired Hunter Lochmann
Ignore this comment. Pretend it was about bacon.
I refuse to ignore bacon; I eat it.
is the pick if I had only one food to pack for a desert island.
Another pro-Bo era post about John U. Bacon's book?
"(To pursue the analogy to its ridiculous conclusion, if the Freep's Stretchgate kerfuffle was "9/11," then the AANews series was the 1993 WTC bombing.)"
Not my analogy. It's been made on this message board before (and is implicit in the continual reference to the Freep coverage as a "Jihad"). Perhaps I should have added the word "ludicrous" before "analogy" to distance myself from such a sentiment, though I thought I'd already done that with the word "ridiculous" and my obviously unsuccessful use of ironic quotation marks. Having lost a good friend from my Michigan days on United 175, as well as many neighbors on that day, I'd never make light of the seriousness of 9/11. That was certainly not my intention, and my sincere apologies if that's what came across.
on RR vs Harbaugh are pointless.
Only DB will decide.
He doesn't care what you or I think or about things that happened years ago or freep articles or blog boards or Michigan men vs Bo men vs whatever.
He has personnally talked to RR eye-to-eye with no press and perhaps has done the same with Harbaugh. He therefore knows more about them than anyone on MoGoBlog or any media outlet will ever know - people that only get press conference snippets.
DB also has the inside information on the $$ and the ear of the university president. He also has a personal vision for the program and will recruit personalities that match that vision - this is what any leader would do.
This post and all CC posts are idol chatter.
I am having a little debbie christmas tree cake right now with my coffee.
Your right. No reason to talk about anything we have no direct control over. You should probably jump on hte thread discussing tonights BB game and mention the same thing. I would hate to have them wasting space with idol chatter. They are not coaching or playing so they should probably not talk about it. Same thing goes for the bowl game. Oh, make sure no one mentions the FREEP unless they are an editor, and stop that guy from discussing if Manny Harris shoudl play more unless he is the new coach in cleveland, too.
Let's talk about hockey instead.
it is not what you don't have control over - my point is that no one has any knowledge of what is in DBs head any more than they know what he ate for lunch.
We have lots of knowledge on players, stats, positions, plays, matchups, recruits, injuries etc. that all a pertinent to bowl games and basketball games.
This post and all CC posts are idol chatter.
You mean like this?
idol chatter >>> idle chatter.
Great, one of the message board "geniuses" that abruptly realizes that message board conversations have no impact on real world administrative decisions. If you don't like it, don't post. I'm reminded of Plato's allegory of the cave, except in this case the person who looks outside discovers something blindingly obvious and should be beaten to death for wasting everyone's time (metaphorically; I don't actually encourage violence, if that wasn't obvious).
Also, you used "idol" instead of "idle". If you're going to condemn pointless arguments, you should at least work on your own grammatical skills - since that has a very slim chance of actually mattering in the real world.
Dude, I was pissed at the time and think we'll have to deal with some minor embarrasments when Harbaugh sticks foot in mouth if he's hired, but if your best argument contains "what has he done other than have an 11-1 season at Stanford?" it's not a very good argument.
I think "he seems like kind of a jerk" is a pretty valid argument. I wouldn't want Urban Meyer or Nick Saban as my coach even if I knew it would bring national championships, just because rooting for a guy like Meyer or Saban doesn't seem like very much fun.
It's the Terrelle Pryor versus Denard thing as applied to coaches.
but they're wrong.
"just because rooting for a guy like Meyer or Saban doesn't seem like very much fun. "
Fun? Okay, lets go get carrot-top to be our coach, that would be fun. As for me, I think a hard-ass type coach whose attitude rubs off on his players would be fun.
Are you suggesting RichRod isn't a hard-ass type coach whose attitude doesn't rub off on his players? Wasn't one complaint against RR back in the day that he swore and treated his players too harshly? I swear, the guy can't catch a fuckin break. Swear your ass off and be a dick in practice and people bitch about how hard you are on the poor college students. Sing Josh Groban and you become a pussy who isn't a hard ass. Fuckin ridiculous.
Also, I have no reservations about RichRod and his attitude rubbing off on the players. They wouldn't be tweeting and showing their support if they didn't think he was a positive role model.
Hey blowhard, the hardass team I imagine doesn't let Wisconsin run the ball down their throats 33 out of 34 plays. Yeah, thats real hardass football. Apparently RR's hardass ways didn't rub off on the defense. And dropping the F-bomb just makes you sound like a teenager.
Yup, good times.
(1) I'm a RichRod suppoter. Hope he's retained.
(2) I was and am pissed about Harbaugh's comments. They were wrong and incredibly gutless. If he had UM's best interests at heart, he could have told Bo, you know, while Bo was alive. Not wait until Bo died and then score some cheap recruiting points.
(3) BUT, be that as it may: (a) Rosenberg caused a black cloud over the program by inducing the NCAA investigation with scant evidence. That's enormous. Harbaugh embarrassed a few people (mostly himself), but no real damage came out of it. (b) The intent of Rosenberg appears to have, in fact, been to cause said black cloud over the program (given the journalistic malpractice he committed). (c) Harbaugh can - as coach - actually help the program as a coach. I don't care if Rosenberg commits to writing unicorns and sunshine stories about UM for the next 10 years, he can't undo his damage. The NCAA investigation hurt his program, caused a ton of money, and may contribute to costing RichRod his job. Sports reporters carry far more weight when they are negative... being positive does very little (query why they choose, then, to write so negatively).
You are right, Rosenberg has done more damage, but I feel that Harbaugh's words hurt more. This is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth. I know Rosenberg graduated from Michigan, but he never played football and had his own agenda. Not sure why graduates would do what he did to their universities, but you never know. He may have been upset over a final grade or something else. Maybe he has no loyalty and never professed his love for our school. I dont know.
Harbaugh's actions hurt alot more. This man was the face of Michigan football. He has the pedigree and everything. I grew up as a Irish fan, but my favorite player was Harbaugh. His dedication and loyalty to the school was unmatched. After he said what he did, whether true or not, it felt like betrayal to me. He hurt alot of people in the AD, but he really hurt Bo, the man he supposedly loves. I am willing to forgive him, if he is willing to apologize to the department or at least clarify things more.
Rosenberg and Sharp are nothing. They might have graduated from here, but they didn't bleed for this school like Jim did. I don't expect anything from them, but I expect everything from Jim. His betrayal hurts more than anything. Sorry for being overdramatic.
Obviously, an 11-1 season at a place like Stanford is a remarkable achievement, but what I was trying (and I guess failing to do persuasively) to say in referencing it is that it's not a long track record of on-field success at program-building. Wasn't the whole "wow, he's a winner at a place like Stanford!" rationale one of the selling points for hiring Tyrone Willingham at Notre Dame job?
Ultimately, my "best argument" was Brian's original screed itself, and the intention of my post today was simply to point out that well-argued essay to the MGoBlog community (which has grown in size exponentially in the years since). In the fog of confusion and occasional despair that has been the last three seasons, I'd forgotten just how damning Brian's "Destroy Harbaugh" piece was, and rereading it this morning, I found myself squirming anew at what seems like the inevitability of our Harbaugh hire. If Brian himself has squared away his considerable misgivings towards Harbaugh from the time (perhaps I should have realized just how long ago that post was in Internet years when Brian quoted Malcolm Gladwell without disdain), well, then, I take that under advisement, and as a devoted reader of his blog, join him in crossing my fingers and hoping for the best—much as I did in the chaotic days following the Miles/Herbstreit/Schiano/Hoke/Aaargh! meltdown when this blog gave the Rodriguez hire its blessing and allowed me to finally sleep peacefully and dream of unicorns and fully mature Death Butterflies.
Sorry if I've caused any face-palming/mushroom-clouding this afternoon. As I said, I was reluctant to wade into the volatile message-board minefield of the CC debate. I will now quietly resume my 24-hour vigil of hoping that Dave Brandon has better instincts about what makes for a successful college athletic program than he had for what makes a good pizza.
Wasn't the whole "wow, he's a winner at a place like Stanford!" rationale one of the selling points for hiring Tyrone Willingham at Notre Dame job?
Contending that Tyrone Willingham was a good "fire" by Notre Dame actually argues against keeping RR. Willingham, one could say, demonstrated evidence of strong success (10-3 in first year) and a trend of improvement over his last 2 years (5-7, 6-6). He also never lost to Navy, which is something neither Charlie Weis nor Brian Kelly can say.
Charlie Weis, by the way, is a good example for how contract extensions do not definitively determine a coach's future.
Just 'cause "Brian Said" doesn't mean its right or true. I think his 2007 essay contains many errors that we can now clearly analyze three years later...
LOL, Jim Harbaugh can coach my team any day
Those comments from a few years ago? How silly. Only elitist UM peeps who feel their parchment is somehow made of golden paper have their panties in a bunch over it.
Total non issue in my book
Not being snarky, I am glad it is a non-issue for you about what he said. But, to people that care about his statement and won't overlook it, then those people are elitist.
Do you also think that Rosenberg should get a pass in due time, or are those people who won't overlook his comments elitist as well.
I remember hearing Jack Harbaugh say a year or so after Jim made those comments, that Jim deeply regretted making them. I can understand someone saying something in haste. In 2007 he was anxious to prove himself and develop his program at Stanford, and he ended up rubbing people here the wrong way while trying to elevate his program at Stanford. If you pay attention to any of his comments for the last year and a half, not only is he complementary towards Michigan, but his love, admiration, and respect for Bo and the program seems evident. I really think this is his dream job.
He needs to sign that Extension/Raise now. I do not want him coming here and ruining what Rodriguez is building from the ground up. The critics will die down when they see how a team consisting of 2nd year starters on both sides of the ball makes a huge difference in the progress of this team.
Harbaugh for the next coach. Rich Rod is a good man and good coach. He was just in to much over his head.