CC: Dan Mullen for Michigan Head Coach

Submitted by ADSellers on

Bet he'd love a substantial pay raise and the chance to play his mentor in a rivalry game every year.

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wlubd

October 4th, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^

Your first paragraph is actually why he may leave, especially if Miss. State has a good season. At the end of the day, it's Mississippi State in Starkville, MS. They play Alabama, and LSU and Auburn and A&M, etc. every single season. They will never be the top dog in that group over a long period of time.

Both Florida and Michigan need a ton of work, but if he turns them around then long-term success is more likely at either location.

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ADSellers

October 4th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^

Im not convinced Muschamp is gone after this season. I met a FL superfan a couple weeks ago who's convinced their AD will keep him around for a while and get his system running. Either way, FL is 2-1 right now with a close loss to Bama. Its too early to say theyll have a bad season.

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gwkrlghl

October 4th, 2014 at 3:10 PM ^

We've got a team composed of a whole bunch of Top 25 and Top 10 classes. This team has more talent - as measured by recruiting rankings - than all but probably 10-15 other teams.

Now what we've done with that HS talent since they've arrived is what's laughable

I mean, our offense features a 5* QB, 5* RB, a 1st rd WR, with pretty much everyone else being a 4* type of guy. Defense too. The whole D is pretty much 4* talent. So yes, we have 'talent' but as the 'rankings vs. success' thread from earlier this week is showing how much we're wasting it

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1931

October 4th, 2014 at 1:40 PM ^

There is no chance Mullen comes here. It would be a lateral move for him AT BEST! With all the politics, in-fighting, Michigan Man crap, negativity surrounding the program as well as the lack of talent on the current roster, we aren't the program we used to be. Why come and deal with all the bs that is Michigan football when he has a good thing going at MSU? The only possible reason is the pay raise. Granted that might be enough, but I just don't see any rational HC wanting to ruin their career prospects by accepting the job about to be vacated by Hoke. 

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October 4th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^

Let me give you schools and I'll name them A and B (albeit we all know who I'm referring to) and you choose which school you would prefer to coach for.

School A: It's a historical school with a program known for winning and being an elite program. However over the past decade they been in a freefall. They've had 1 good season in the last 5, they're an extremely young team, there is a tremendous amount of in-fighting between alumni and fans. They are extremely impatient, and they have treated their previous two coaches like $hit (whether that is deserved or not is up for debate but the fact that they have been treated as such is not) as well as their AD. Thus if you don't win quickly, you'll be out of a job in 3 years regardless of any underlying circumstances. 

 

School B: Not a known winner, but it's in extremely fertile recruiting grounds so the opportunity to recruit just as good of prospects as School A is about the same. The tradition isn't there, but it's being built and the future looks bright. A negative is that you're in the toughest conference in the CFB  but at least you're competitive with the schools in that conference (Something school A isn't even remotely close to achieving), the fans and alumni will be patient and give  you the time you need to build your program, and finally, half the fanbase doesn't hate you from the onset solely because you weren't affiliated with the program before accepting the job. 

 

If I'm making a decision as to where to coach, it's going to be at School B. They'll accept, support, and be patient with me, something that School A will never be able to do and outside of tradition and academics, there isn't something School A could provide me and my team that School B couldn't. 

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gwkrlghl

October 4th, 2014 at 4:26 PM ^

Mississippi State is the most irrelevant, no-name program in the SEC. Maybe they'll have a great year, but it's not going to be sustainable longterm. Mullen should cash his chips after this season and go somewhere where he can really build something. Whether that's Florida, Michigan, LSU, etc.

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1931

October 4th, 2014 at 2:17 PM ^

I wish I was. I know that my opinion won't be a popular one on this board, but if you were to take a step back from the youre Michigan fandom (hard I know, especially as I'm an alumni), but try for a second a place yourself in the shoes of say a Louisville or a Syracuse fan. In those shoes, is Michigan really a top 20 program??? I honestly don't think so, and I believe a very reasonable case could be made that we're not even inside the top 35 of college coaching destinations/programs at this point. 

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1931

October 4th, 2014 at 3:20 PM ^

I judge the quality and pedigree of a job by how desirable it is and how easy it is to succeed there, not by how much money you can make. Just because we can offer more money in the short-term doesn't make Michigan a better job. Mullen could come here and make 5million/year before being fired after our factions start calling for his head after 3 years, or he could stay at MSU and make 2 million/year and continue coaching there for another 20 years. Which one would you take? 

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MichiganExile

October 4th, 2014 at 4:13 PM ^

Michigan, but that's only because over the course of 3 years I'll make 9 million more dollars and if I'm succesful I'll be there forever and make even more money. Are you actually reading what you are saying? These guys want to win on the biggest stage and M>>>>>Miss St. Additionally if you can make 9 million more dollars in 3 years doing it with the potential to be a top paid head coach the remainder of your career, you do that. That's simple economics. You're letting your opinion of where the program is at currently cloud your judgement about which desitination is clearly and historically more desirable. If Dave Brandon gets fired the pendulum swings even more in Michigan's favor over Miss. St. 

It's all a moot point though because Mullen is gonna end up at Florida. 

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1931

October 4th, 2014 at 2:51 PM ^

We've had great recruiting classes according to rivals, scout, and all the other recruiting services. However, none of that talent has shown up at all. If our team was as talented as those services say they are, then we should have at the very least kept it close against Utah and Minnesota despite the ineptitude of Hoke. I'm not saying we win those games, but the "talent" we've recruited should have kept us from being embarassed. In my personal opinion, and I very well may be wrong, Hoke and staff aren't good at evaluating talent and even worse developing the talent they do get. Granted, a lot of our guys had offers from the big boys like alabama, usc, lsu, yet if they were truly the quality type of player's to make an impact for those teams, then we should have not been embarassed at home by a mediocre PAC team and bad B1G team. 

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MichiganSports

October 4th, 2014 at 1:54 PM ^

Im not starting a new thread for this but really i want to hear everyones reasoning? I just don't see it as a better job. Florida has to play SC and GA every season and that doesn't include the occasional crossover game with the West teams.  Then to top it off at the end of the season they get to play FSU who looks to be a well oiled machine for many years to come thanks to Jimbo.

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MichiganSports

October 4th, 2014 at 2:15 PM ^

When you say better recruiting im assuming your speaking to there ability to over sign (which is becoming a thing of the past now) and allowing kids that normally couldn't sniff college into the program. I get what your saying with the area having more talent but its not like we can't recruit down south. I still think FSU is a huge negative to the Florida job.

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