Isn't Denard going to want to move to wide receiver his senior year anyway? He's not leaving no matter who the coach is.
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Isn't Denard going to want to move to wide receiver his senior year anyway? He's not leaving no matter who the coach is.
So he could certainly have as much of an idea as anyone.
As are a lot of people here. What's your point?
Is that a guy who is as connected to the football world as him would have a pretty easy time, or at least a considerably easier time than the average alum, finding out any scoop that there is to be found. I don't understand why that had to be explained.
Unlike the alums on this board, Schefter is an alum with a top-notch reputation for breaking scoops in the football world. So, a little more credibility than the average poster.
I think it is assumption based on what has been talked about for the past month. Nothing of substance in my opinion.
I think Schefter is a snappy dresser. Handsome guy
stories like this.
Are you telling me, Brandon, who is supposed to be smart, has told his decision to anyone? That would be idiotic, since he has purposefully avoided answering the question.
Second, how bad would Michigan look, if say, Michigan blew out Miss State, and Stanford got crushed in their bowl? Would we really hire Harbaugh, if he got blown out by three touchdowns? And what if the Pac 10 doesn't show in the bowls? That would make Harbaugh's season look even weaker.
That doesn't mean Harbaugh won't be our next coach...I just don't think anyone, especiall Brandon, really knows, assuming the question is really up for debate.
Seriously? You think DB, at this point, doesn't have an opinion?
If you're right about that, DB is an incompetent boob. I don't think he's an incompetent boob.
DB would not be throwing out his opinion to people. That would make him a boob as you call it. DB is smart, he wouldn't allow anyone a chance to hear which way he is leaning until after the season ends. He hasn't decided one way or another, that's what he continues to tell people. This means that any source that hears rumors, of which way DB is leaning, hears just what they say, rumors. Nothing more, nothing less.
I like boobs.
Brandon might not leak it, but you don't think its possible it wouldnt leak on the Stanford end? Like when Harbaugh refuses to sign the contract extension. For all we know the source could be John Harbaugh or something (who I assume Schefter has some relation with).
Maybe he is just coming to Michigan, as in the State? Perhaps for dinner?
"Sources say"? I can find a "source" to say the world is flat
Nope. As long as he stays master of recruiting info, i'll continue like a good pair of whitey tighties.
Most of the hand-wringing has been over recruits, not retaining our current players (maybe Denard excepted).
lol.. good post OP, searching for this in google only produces this thread from Mgoblog.. bout as bad as the Tressel rumor
Schefter is almost never wrong, which is why he's so credible. He wouldn't break anything unless the contract is on the table and he knows it's going to be signed. Even a tentative statement suggests to me that it may well be true, but he doesn't have enough hard facts to present a full blown story. The tentative nature of his statement suggests to me that it's probably hearsay, like Luck telling him Harbaugh was in talks with Michigan when asked about Harbaugh following Luck to the NFL. If he's wrong, that tentative statement will still tarnish his reputation.
The fact that he's legit, and a UM alum, and the recent abrupt denial by Harbaugh about signing a contract extension with Stanford, suggests to me that there's probably going to be a change. I just hope Harbaugh doesn't run out Denard and we have to start over again. Also, hopefully we can land a legit DC who can recruit like Randy Shannon.
Edit: original post was deleted.
If he were legit, he'd name his sources. Process matters.
Events over the next several weeks may prove him right, or wrong. But he's not acting as a legit journalist in this. A legit journalist would name the source(s). Or, alternatively, say, "A person in the Michigan Athleitc Department, who required anonymity on the basis that his speaking on this subject would be grounds for his termination, said..."
I'm tired, really tired, of all of these random assholes "who went to Michigan" somehow being given credit for that fact, rather than doing their jobs in a competent fashion. That naturally includes M grads Rosenberg, Snyder and Sharp. But just as clearly the laughable screwups by Melanie Collins, Katrina Hancock and Lynn Henning, just off the top of my head. I've actually lost count of all of the jerkoffs who have given us false information based on "sources."
... "process matters?" You act like this is the NY Times reporting on the Pentagon Papers. It was an aside on an NFL pregame show.
I think this screengrab from a few weeks back shows something about Schefter's bona fides:
might also have little plastic helmets too. Braylon might have a big plastic helmet. It doesn't matter.
And I agree; this most certainly is not like the New York Times reporting on the Pentagon Papers. (Although I'm not so sure that's the best example of anything.) This is just cheesy rumor-mongering on a fluffy sportstalk program. Not real news.
Bottom left by the NFL football, it's "Bo".
Which is an amazing book but ZOMG JIHAD
I wonder how many people who spend all their free time trashing Rosenberg have actually read the book they so willingly trash simply because of who wrote it.
It's a great book, well researched and well written.
Now ready for my neg-bang.
For the New York Times Book Review. And he praised it. But that didn't slow down Chait in the least, from ripping into Rosenberg's disgraceful reporting on Stretchgate, or the Free Press' abdication of its editorial responsibility in the fiasco.
Maybe his sources told him not to name them, ya dig?
Never thought of that. Then, uh, doesn't the reporter ask this question: Why do I need to give you anonymity? Because unless there is a good reason that my editors and publishers can accept, I cannot use your quote without attribution.
That's the way they do it in the real world of reporting. Sports might be different.
The definition of that has expanded. We now see anonymous sources used more then ever as the competition for hits increases.
"That's the way they do it in the real world of reporting. Sports might be different."
That's pretty relevant you know since, like, that's what you are talking about and stuff.
Note the sarcasm. "Sports reporting" < "the real world of reporting." At least not as it is practiced by some of the sports blabbers who get the attention of the MGoBlog crowd, apparently. Sports reporting could be real reporting, and it is real reporting as practiced by some, but it might be less entertaining, with fewer rapidly-occurring spicy rumors if they really, like, followed the usual rules.
I wouldn't really say Schefter is a "random asshole." The guy has obvious Michigan pride (always has a Michigan helmet behind him during his segments on ESPN) and I've never seen him take an unwarranted shot at the program. Nor do I think it's clear that he has an agenda towards or against one coach from an offhanded remark. Maybe he's just reporting general sentiments from the guys in the NFL he knows. Maybe he knows something more concrete. But he didn't say it was a done deal and he didn't claim it was happening without a doubt.
No reason to take a shot at him.
is precisely why somebody needs to take a shot at him.
If you guys like him so much, and respect him so much, then let's get him to come to MGoBlog and answer questions about who his sources were and why he won't name them.
God damn, the tolerance for rumor and innuendo is amazing.
Yes, I'm sure the paid ESPN analyst will come to this blog to shoot down an offhanded remark he made. It's a comment. No one said he is absolutely coming and no one said he absolutely is not. The tolerance for rumor and innuendo is amazing?
This is a message board. On the internet.
No offense but if someone comes to him (say for argument sake it's David Brandon or someone in the know) and tells him that Jim Harbaugh will be the next coach at the University of Michigan, but you cannot quote me on that and you can't even say the nature of your source. What's he supposed to do not report it? And the thing that makes it believable is that Schefter has a track record of not making things up. And that's the key point-track records matter. Just because he's reporting news that you may not like, doesn't mean he's wrong.
Hey Section One
When are you going to start your thread calling Brian out for not naming his sources? HE'S NOT LEGIT UNTIL HE TELLS US WHO TOLD HIM MICHIGAN WAS PLAYING ALABAMA IN 2012!
You are breathtakingly unsophisticated in your understanding of journalism.
This just in -- Woodward and Bernstein not legitimate journalists. Nor are any of the other myriad journalists who have won Pulitzer Prizes by breaking stories through the use of anonymous sources. Section 1, that renowned expert on journalistic ethics, has spoken.
Is that journalists can get use them to get at stories that they can't get on the record. Many sources can't realistically give out their names. However, anonymous sources often have their own agenda and their anonymity makes it easier to manipulate the journalist and the coverage.
Anybody remember Kirk Herbstreit using an anonymous source to report that Les Miles was the new coach at Michigan? Herby's source may well have been trying to influence the proceedings. The source could have been someone in the Michigan athletic department trying to get the deal killed (which it was), or it could have been Miles' agent trying to get a little more money out of LSU.
In this case, we don't know who Schefter's source is, so we can't evaluate whether they're in a position to actually know what's going on or what their motivation is. Suppose Schefter's source is Harbaugh's agent. He would certainly be in a position to know, but he wouldn't necessarily be telling the truth. If Harbaugh's name is associated with the Michigan job, Harbaugh or his agent can negotiate a bigger salary regardless of whether he signs an extension at Stanford, he goes to the 49ers or another NFL team, or he does end up at Michigan.
In this case, we don't know who Schefter's source is, so we can't evaluate whether they're in a position to actually know what's going on or what their motivation is.
Which is where the reporter's reputation comes into play. Good reporters know when they're being fed a line of shit, and don't report it because their credibility was on the line. Herby got played. There is a reason he doesn't have a reputation for breaking stories.
Reporters like Schefter, who do have a reputation for breaking stories, don't breathlessly regurgitate every piece of shit rumor they're fed. They are the gatekeeper; they determine whether a source is in a position to know the information they are feeding us, and whether they have reason to lie. Their credibility is their currency -- because the Schefters of the world are right so much more often than the Herbstreits and Wilbons, we trust that they have done the legwork to ensure the accuracy of the info they're presenting.
Hopefully less often, but of course Schefter can be played. Or his source may be wrong, or the negotiations may fall apart, or Harbaugh may end up at the 49ers. It's not a done deal until Harbaugh has signed a contract.
What sucks even more balls is the fact that someone started another thread based on another NFL personality making a similar comment.
I'm absolutely not going to Alabama.
Yeah Urban Meyer is a real sack of shit. Can you believe he quit a multmillion dollar job where he's beloved to be a better father? The audacity of that motherfucker.
I really think I lose more braincells reading the comments on this site than I've lost in years of smoking weed and drinking heavily. Yeah, let's keep trying to win with this whole bullshit notion of "class". We'll be the next Notre Dame in notime!
... "brain cells" is two words.
But I give you +1 for posting while blazing.
I wish. Sadly I'm on the couch next to my mom while she's reading and I'm watching the Lions' game.
thing about this whole CC, timeline thing. Nobody even knows if DB has even started his evaluation yet. Let alone what his decision is.
Ohlmeyer seems to like Adam Schefter, per this ESPN-Ombudsman column:
At the same time, Ohlmeyer decried the rampant use of anonymous sources.
So how about this:
Dear Mr. Ohlmeyer,
In May of this year, you cautioned ESPN readers/viewers and, presumably, the ESPN staff about anonymous sources. You seemingly went out of your way to laud the work of Adam Schefter.
Now, Schefter has relied on anonymous sources to report that Jim Harbaugh may be headed to Michigan to replace Ridh Rodriguez. Schefter didn't identify the sources by any other description, such as the general position of the individual. Schefter didn't say why his sources might need anonymity. Those are the two hallmarks -- along with approval by a higher-ranking editor -- of normal journalistic rules for anonymous sources.
So did Schefter follow any of those guidelines?