CC: Adam Schefter on Countdown: Harbaugh to Michigan
December 26th, 2010 at 4:22 PM ^
Such a stinking, fetid pile of rotten bullshit. You're not even worth arguing with.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:31 PM ^
Come on Section 1, you are better than that. You can argue and present you facts and opinions. Not all of us hear everything.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:50 PM ^
These are demonstrable facts. Nobody disputes them. Except you.
December 26th, 2010 at 9:45 PM ^
Go away and die slowly please. You're an old sack of useless shit that complains non stop about the FreePress and is a general asshole. Bring on Harbaugh and hopefully you choke on your morning coffee so we don't have to put up with your existence anymore.
December 26th, 2010 at 10:28 PM ^
You really are a cocksucker.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:51 PM ^
Section1 contributes more here than you ever have, or probably ever will. I disagree with him on this, but WTF, man?
Edit: threading f'd up, but this wasn't in response to AAA
December 26th, 2010 at 2:00 PM ^
Against USC who rubbed the other teams in its league's noses in the dirt for years.
December 26th, 2010 at 2:19 PM ^
A coach that knows how to crush a team that's dominated his conference for a decade and create an attitude of dominance that helps with recruiting. See Wisconsin, the team playing for the Rose Bowl because of a three way tiebreaker.
December 26th, 2010 at 2:24 PM ^
I respect the consistency of your stance. But the item you seem to bring up the most is going for two. Are there other things that bother you? Like the comments about Michigan? Because that bothers me far more, but I could get past it with an apology/clarification. Or other evidence of poor character. Drunk Driving? I mean, I can see lots of reasons to have questions about Harbaugh. But going for 2 seems the silliest of them. Especially when 90% of us seem to want Rich to stick around so we have an offense that runs up 70 on everybody Oregon style.
December 26th, 2010 at 2:51 PM ^
the DUI is a very big deal to me.
December 26th, 2010 at 3:05 PM ^
December 27th, 2010 at 1:32 PM ^
Although getting a DUI is a major F-up, it doesn't render someone a d-bag. I have friends and relatives who have gotten DUI's. A vast majority of them regret that mistake in their lives and have gone on to be the same decent people they were before tehy made that mistake. To hang a man for one mistake is VERY pompous. His comments about Michigan were unfortunate, but he has said many more good things about Michigan thatn he ever has bad things. Also, what he said really isn't that far from the truth, whether we want to admit it or not.
December 26th, 2010 at 1:20 PM ^
OK cool. And I'm sure Bo would love you winning attitude dude. While we're at it, let's hire my high school football coach. He couldn't see too well or know anything about football, but the dude was so nice and sweet. Let's have him come. So what if we lose. Sigh.
December 26th, 2010 at 1:22 PM ^
and if we could have one coaching discussion that doesn't bring up Bo, that'd be really great.
December 26th, 2010 at 1:26 PM ^
And I like winning. And all I care about is M winning. Apparently, not a sentiment you share. We should just have nice folks who don't win lead us.
December 26th, 2010 at 1:29 PM ^
who win without being giant dicks. Lloyd wasn't a jerk, Rich Rod doesn't oversign by 90 people, Mack Brown seems like a cool dude, Joe Pa, Beamer, etc. etc.
I want a coach who wins as well. It's just not the only thing that matters to me, and I'll accept a lower level of success if it means not having to cringe while rooting for a team.
December 26th, 2010 at 1:37 PM ^
JH coaches with the same attitude and swagger that he played with. If that's what's necessary to get his team to believe they can go out and compete with teams like USC when they were still crushing everyone, maybe Michigan could use a little of that swagger. It's been a while since we've had it.
December 26th, 2010 at 1:52 PM ^
about his attitude and swagger. Bret Bielema coaches with attitude and swagger. Bret Bielema is winning a ton of football games. If you would be okay having Bret Beilema as your football coach, then there's no way we're going to reach any agreement whatsoever.
December 26th, 2010 at 2:15 PM ^
so please refrain from equating him to Bret Bielema.
December 26th, 2010 at 1:40 PM ^
It took Bo 12 years to win a bowl game and he never won a national title. He only beat Ohio State twice in his first 7 seasons. If he were coaching today, I bet people would want to replace him with Harbaugh.
A little bit of patience and loyalty would be nice.
December 26th, 2010 at 2:23 PM ^
Bravo!
I couldn't have said it better. Though some fail to realize this about Bo. Great coach, won games, and conference championships.
People were patient with him and let him do his thing. I find it unfortunate, that we are so impatient and arrogant these days. Bo wasn't a "Michigan Man" when he came to us from Ohio State and Woody Hayes.
He became such after he was given the time and patience to develop a winning program. I just wish the younger fan base of Michigan would do their due diligence and learn this.
December 26th, 2010 at 2:23 PM ^
The Revisionist strikes again!
8-3 first year, beat OSU. Then proceeded to go into the OSU game undefeated EVERY YEAR from 1970 to 1975.
Lost the de facto NC game on a last second field goal to Stanford in his third year.
Um, yeah--Bo really performed at a level comparable to Rodriguez.
I LOVE it when you RR guys resort to nothing but faith and hypotheticals to bolseter your arguments.
Doesn't that tell you ANYTHING?
December 26th, 2010 at 3:01 PM ^
December 26th, 2010 at 3:04 PM ^
" One of the biggest myths of that "69 team is that we took a bunch of no-talent guys and turned them into champions. Thats just not true. From that team eleven players became All-American-----eleven! And while i like to think our coaching staff helped them get there, brother, you can't get blood from a stone.And let's be clear: I didn't recruit ANY of those guys. OL' Bump had not left the cupboard bare"
BO
December 26th, 2010 at 2:48 PM ^
It took Bo 12 years to win a bowl game and he never won a national title. He only beat Ohio State twice in his first 7 seasons. If he were coaching today, I bet people would want to replace him with Harbaugh.
You cannot be seriously comparing RR's and Bo's programs. In the 1970s, our program had the best aggregate record in the country. Three years in, RR has the worst record in school history, and the worst Big Ten record of any team other than Indiana. Bit of a difference there.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:17 PM ^
When he didn't win the Big Ten until the 75 season.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:06 PM ^
You might want to check your history there, because Bo won the Big 10 in year one
December 26th, 2010 at 5:23 PM ^
December 26th, 2010 at 11:25 PM ^
Yeah that's my bad, didn't read very closely
December 26th, 2010 at 5:36 PM ^
December 26th, 2010 at 6:49 PM ^
You can't possibly compare Bo's situation to Rich's. Bo coached in an era where national titles were after thoughts, bowl games were generally meaningless and ties were a common occurrence. College football is so fundamentally different in 2010 than it was in 1975, any comparison is invalid.
Also, Bo was winning all but one or two games a season every single year. I would gladly take that at this point. There is no comparison.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:56 PM ^
As others have said below, Bo did have a better record than RR his first three years, but he had a lot more to work with and he wasn't changing systems so radically.
So, to reiterate, a little bit of patience and loyalty would be nice.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:59 PM ^
then? Or how about Les Miles. Tommy Tuberville will be a hell of a winner at Michigan.
Why don't we just find the biggest dick in college football who wins games and get him?
Who cares if he's not a Michigan Man at all.
I can't image another person on this blog who I disagree with more than you.
At least those who want JH have some positive things to say other than JH winning games.
December 26th, 2010 at 1:43 PM ^
No one suggested they want to lose. It is possible to have a winning attitude without it being necessary to win at all costs. There is a tremendous difference. I know more than one person like that. They are fans of Michigan Football, not Michigan fans.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:00 PM ^
The day we have a program that just cares about winning and not about ANYTHING else, that will be the day I will stop being a Michigan fan.
December 26th, 2010 at 1:37 PM ^
Wow. There is so much more to the program than just winning.
December 26th, 2010 at 2:59 PM ^
Certainly - but that's not necessarily an argument in our current coach's favor. Our graduation rate is taking a beating because of all the transfers, and we're about to go on NCAA probation for the first time ever. The probation thing is a sore point for a lot of people. The "snake oil" business (recruiting players who have pledged to other schools) makes some people uncomfortable as well. And the fact that Justin Boren transferred to play for Jim Tressel (a man who, on a personal level, is generally thought to have integrity) and has flourished there raises questions about what exactly went on between him and RR. If we are honest with ourselves and look at how this program has functioned under RR, it's definitely a mixed bag.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:11 PM ^
The fact that you used Justin Boren as your example doesn't help your point at all. The snake oil thing makes people who are extremely uneducated about college football uncomfortable. Our graduation rates are taking a beating, but when we get in trouble for punishing kids who aren't going to summer school, the point can be made that RichRod has the student's best interest in mind (combined with a great GPA for the team). If we are really being honest with ourselves on how this program has functioned under RR, it is definitely a mixed bag. See how I just took the counterpoint to every one of your arguments and still was able to use your final sentence as my point? It is easy to slant a post without really even looking at the other side.
December 26th, 2010 at 9:39 PM ^
Yet I still want to give the man at least another year to prove himself, it's only fair to all involved.
