CBS article on "The Horror"
Dennis Dodd, a senior college football columnist with CBS, has an article up today on Appy State and the Horror. The reason for the article is that we are coming up on the five year anniversary of the event. To be clear, there are no anonymous sources in his article, nor does Dodd allude to or speculate regarding certain spurious and slanderous accusations made by a blogger recently in another place.
As a diehard Michigan fan and alumni, it is painful to read. And yet, it is something that is sadly part of our history. I must say, I am glad that we are playing Appalachian State again. I am supremely confident that neither our coaching staff nor Michigan players will overlook that game.
I do think it likely that Michigan patronized and ignored Appy State, considering the game as little more than a glorified scrimmage against a high school squad. I never knew that only 27 players took part in the game for App. State. In my mind, the game was an indictment of the Michigan coaching staff, and a sign that things had to change.
I realize that a post like this invites negbangs, but part of moving to the future is learning from the past.
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:18 PM ^
August 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 AM ^
Make it stop? Seriously?
Why? What's the matter?
I'd understand if you wanted the RichRod threads to stop, but it's not like THE HORROR gets rehashed here regularly.
It's certainly annoying to see that loss celebrated by (jealous, let's face it) fans of other teams. It will be annoying again in 2017. (May as well brace yourself now.) But, as others have noted, there's nothing disrespectful in the article.
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This site got it right in '07. Michigan prepared poorly for an underrated team and (as was their custom during those years) took way too long to make some obviously required defensive adjustments. It never should have happened.
August 23rd, 2012 at 7:18 AM ^
to focusing on and preparing for Alabama, the App State players did the same for Michigan. They were given a challenge and rose to it.
And then, we cannot overlook Armani Edwards.
It is a painful event sure, but we cannot overlook the lessons learned in pain. And even the entire Rich Rod debacle (Lloyd retires, spread is they way to go, etc.) stems from this painful event.
I am glad we are where we are now, and that much happier for it based on where we have been.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:47 PM ^
That started back in 1998 after Syracuse abused us and then Purdue and Northwestern exposed us after that. Even OSU devised a brilliant gameplan in 2006 and came out in the spread against us and, of course, we were unprepared.
It seemed natural to think that if we couldn't stop the spread against middling Big Ten teams, think of how unstoppable we'd be running the spread with the athletes we could get. I'm still holding my opinions of Hoke until this less "home-friendly" schedule concludes. I just feel like Michigan isn't back until it can play just as good on the road as they do at home. And we were below average last year.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:21 PM ^
when we play them AGAIN?? To this day I still do not understand why we scheduled Appy State again. No good can come from that game. Even if we win 72-0 nobody will care and will only ask “So why did you lose to them in 2007”. Worse still, if “The Horror” repeats itself?? Well, I don’t think there are words that can describe what that would do…
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 PM ^
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:23 PM ^
The Horror isn't the banhammer. It is the slander made elsewhere that brings the banhammer. To quote:
Posting anything Ace Williams says will equal insta-ban for the 2012 season.
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 PM ^
True.
However it says nothing about negbombs.
August 23rd, 2012 at 8:50 AM ^
Ace Williams is banhammerable. Dennis Dodd beating dead horses like he's a jockey in the Zombie Preakness is not.
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 PM ^
Dennis Dodd looks like Tobias Funke.
(I agree with what you are saying, Stephen, I just had to put this out there.)
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 PM ^
Didn't read the article, but this seems completely different from the "other" story involving The Horror. "We learn from history that we do not learn from history". Never forget the past just because it hurts. This notion can be used elsewhere in this program's recent history. I agree with SRK, I'm glad they are playing them again. The team will be prepared for when that day falls upon us. Anyway, Beat Bama...first thing's first (way, way first).
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:39 PM ^
According to my single anonymous source, Dennis Dodd gets his weed from the same guy as Johnny Sears.
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:42 PM ^
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 AM ^
I was somewhat familiar with Appalachian State and I thought that they would give Michigan a tough game. I disagree with Kass in that Appalachian State wasn't much more than a high school football team; they were two-time FCS champions. They were a good team.
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:12 AM ^
re-read what Kass wrote.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:51 PM ^
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:47 PM ^
what good can come from this thread?!?
August 23rd, 2012 at 6:04 AM ^
As far as relevance to Michigan football is concerned, this thread gets at least 7 out of 10 IMO. Painful, yes, but way more useful than the random "Person who has nothing to do with Michigan football dies" threads or "TIGERS!!!" threads.
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:48 PM ^
Yeah. That never happened. Next thing you're going to tell me is we put a man on the moon.
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:52 PM ^
http://www.mongabay.com/images/peru/manu/Manu_1023_2366a.jpg
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:00 AM ^
Are there anymore articles we can post before the season starts that cast a bad light on UM? Let's get it out of the way now, I guess.
I hear Avery Queen and Josh Moore have a few stories to tell.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:04 AM ^
..... of that fateful Saturday and for thinking that there is anything good that can come out of playing them again.
There isn't.
August 23rd, 2012 at 8:30 AM ^
you've obviously got your finger on the pulse of the board.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 AM ^
Better start building immunity now before it's hyped on the TV. Even the mute button will not protect against such a challenge.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:17 AM ^
Not only was I there to see this in person, I was in the end zone (2nd row) of where our field goal was blocked. In that famous picture of the block, there's a fan to the far left in a yellow shirt with his hands on his hips. That guy was 2 people down from me. I'm just out of view in the shot, thank GOD.
Unless you were sitting in the front row ahead of me, nobody had a better view of that kick being blocked than I did. And no matter how hard I try, I'll never be able to erase that from my memory.
How great for us that we get anniversary reminders. And just wait until we play them (next year?) the week leading up to the game will show nothing but flashbacks of the horror endlessly. Compare it to all the flashbacks of the Kordell Stewart hail mary when we were preparing for Colorado in 1996 and 97. This will be like that only worse.
August 23rd, 2012 at 5:59 AM ^
So, when they kicked the "go ahead" field goal with a few minutes left, I got to watch the football harmlessly slide down the netting as it continued to slowly spin. Likewise, forever etched with crystal clarity into my memory.
August 23rd, 2012 at 8:41 AM ^
Where I found out what happened with the McCartney Hail Mary the next morning, and high-fived Charles Woodson with a rose in his teeth. I witnessed half of wolverine history from the backfield and the other half on that little stadium screen we used to have. I am only now finding out what happened in the games I went to when I watch old games on BTN. Thank goodness I miraculously acquired better seats since then.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:29 AM ^
I get that this loss was horrible and embarassing but honestly the 7 straight losses to ohio and current 4 straight to sparty were/are worse. It's not like i have to deal with any app state fans on a daily basis. 2007 still would have been a giant letdown even if the horror had never happened.
August 23rd, 2012 at 7:26 AM ^
They come up to me often, and I have to be gracious and say their team really laid one on us that day.
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:37 AM ^
Also in NC, and I also get App State fans coming up to me when they see my car with all its Michigan stuff on it. I even had a cop who pulled me over talk to me about that game, his brother went to App State. It was more embarrasing than getting pulled over.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:39 AM ^
ND has lost a lot, but never to an FCS team.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:56 AM ^
Maybe not. But they did lose 38-0 to the team that lost to App State.
And if I were a betting guy, I would pick 2007 App State over that 3-9 Notre Dame team any time.
August 23rd, 2012 at 7:54 AM ^
BOOM! TRANSITIVE PROPERTY'D!
August 23rd, 2012 at 8:17 AM ^
Luckily you'll never see it, because we don't stoop so low.
FSU has 2 FCS teams this year, that is shameful.
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 AM ^
I saw your fans rush the field several years back when you kicked a late field goal to beat Navy.
Notre Dame isn't above stooping low no matter how hard you try to deny it. Now stop before you humiliate yourself any more.
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:34 AM ^
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:49 AM ^
Still haven't nor will we play an FCS team. Regardless of "how good" AppSt was, they were still an FCS team. You guys need to stop justifying the loss by saying TeamX would beat TeamY.
You lost to an FCS team. /boom HORROR
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:34 PM ^
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:16 PM ^
I heard the OhioSt game in Columbus next year is being moved to a neutral site. Rumour is you guys can't get passed Toledo. /BOOM Toledo'd.
Keep tryin.
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 PM ^
How is this guy allowed to post when all he does is troll?
August 24th, 2012 at 9:48 AM ^
August 24th, 2012 at 10:27 AM ^
I am not acting important, I am not denying your recent string of victories over us. But when you go on the attack RE: Navy & Tulsa, just remember you have skeletons in the closet as well. Yah we are more similar than you think.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:46 AM ^
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 AM ^
lol I want to drink them.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:51 AM ^
I hate that we are playing them again, absolutely hate it. We can beat them 999 times out of 1000 games and only 1 of those games will be remembered. Let them have there victory and move on, I just don't want to see that team or their fans in the big house ever again.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:34 AM ^
to that.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:17 AM ^
I can't hear you, I can't hear you... / hands over ears