CB Greg Brown Has Left Team

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:20 PM
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CB Greg Brown Has Left Team

 Freep Wolverines

 
Freshman UM CB Greg Brown has left the team, UM confirms
 
Mike Rothstein of ESPN seconds this information:
 
 Michael Rothstein 
 
Freshman CB Greg Brown has left the Michigan football team, per Michigan official.
 
 
Here's a link to his HELLO: Post http://mgoblog.com/content/hello-greg-brown-0
He was 5'10", 180 lbs, ran a 4.4, was a 3* (from what I could find after a quick google search), had at least another offer from CMU (although this is all that comes up), and was a very early Rich Rodriguez commit in September 2009.
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October 24th, 2011 at 12:23 PM |   freepwolverines  (Score:1)
triangle_M
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 Freep Wolverines 
 
Freshman UM CB Greg Brown has left the team, UM confirms
5 minutes ago 

 


And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!

 

October 24th, 2011 at 12:23 PM | Too bad (Score:2 Normal)
Happy Gilmore
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Not a huge loss in terms of depth (can't believe we can say that about DBs now) but wish him luck in his future endeavors

October 24th, 2011 at 12:24 PM | Any reason why? (Score:1)
hart20
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Was it homesickness, lack of playing time, etc.?

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:25 PM | Not important. Unless of (Score:-1 Trolling)
October 24th, 2011 at 12:56 PM | Um... (Score:2)
Kalamablue
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Why would you consider this as not important?  Because he left the team we have to wipe him from our memory?  What's wrong with asking why he left?

October 24th, 2011 at 1:06 PM | I read somewhere, I think it (Score:2 Insightful)
Jskohl88
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I read somewhere, I think it was the mspeedkills twitter, that it was lack of playing time

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:45 PM | Playing time (Score:5 Normal)
Needs
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Unless he had a coach tell him "we don't ever see you playing here," then that's ridiculous. I wonder if its evidence of the problems that the new media apparatus that's grown up around recruiting have created for both programs and players themselves. He's a freshman. Freshman shouldn't get playing time, other than the top 1% of players or in just desparate situations. There's a CB spot that will be opening up in a couple years after Floyd graduates (assuming Countess locks the other one down). Brown would be in very good position to compete for that as a redshirt sophomore, along with Avery, Raymon Taylor (who's more of a safety), Terrance Talbot, and whoever comes in in the intervening years. But recruiting sites give players a sense of being the center of attention and potential stars (even in Brown's case where he didn't have a great senior year, he still had recruiting sites contacting him and asking about his status).

Or maybe its frustration from seeing Countess come in and immediately leapfrog everyone into a de facto starting spot. But in any case, if it's playing time related, then some patience might be the wiser course of action, both for helping his develepment as a football player and a student, because transferring introduces all kinds of new difficulties into the academic equation.

October 24th, 2011 at 4:35 PM | agreed (Score:1)
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the early playing time thing has certainly been a selling point for a lot of players, and along with the reduction of scholarships to 85 and the proliferation of even non-major conferences having their games televised, has led to the relattive parity that we now see in college football.

Few are the teams that still have three deeps of 4 star and five star players. Hard to see the return of the Big 2 and little 8 (ten) in the modern era.

our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

October 29th, 2011 at 2:40 AM | Check out my post on the post NW player 'mingling' thread (Score:1)
GrowBlue
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http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/mingling-players-after-game#comment-1278109

 

Relevant bit:

Raymon Taylor was talking with folks about the game when someone asked him 'where your boy Brown was'. Raymon said he had skipped some class, so wasn't with the team that day (I think he just meant on the travel squad).

October 24th, 2011 at 12:25 PM | Best of luck to him... (Score:1)
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Best of luck to him... Unfortunate circumstances that he came into, with Raymon Taylor, Avery, Countess, Floyd, and Woolfolk to beat.

October 24th, 2011 at 1:23 PM | Hollowell too. (Score:2)
WolvinLA2
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Hollowell too.

October 24th, 2011 at 3:47 PM | Wasn't brown the only early (Score:1)
DaBigDaddy
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Wasn't brown the only early enrollee? And sees countess came in late an got the start. But then someone said he was considering leave in the beginning of the season?

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:25 PM | no reason given (Score:1)
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That's the extent of the tweet.

 


And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!

 

October 24th, 2011 at 12:26 PM | Is this where Jeremy Clark's (Score:1)
jeffro0542
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Is this where Jeremy Clark's scholership is coming from?

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:29 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
West Texas Blue
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Most likely.

October 24th, 2011 at 12:29 PM | probably. (Score:1)
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probably.

October 24th, 2011 at 12:31 PM | Even with Brown departing, (Score:0 Overrated)
October 24th, 2011 at 12:36 PM | I don't believe that is (Score:3 Normal)
jtmc33
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I don't believe that is correct

The only thing to consider is whether there will be enough early -enrollees.  Is so, we can take 27 because we will be at the 85 scholarship maximum in 2012 and not above even with 27 incoming freshman (25 in the 2012 class with 2 enrolling early and counting towards this year's class).

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:53 PM | Even if that was the case (Score:2)
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If you can't come up with 2-3 guys who are probably not going to get 5th years, without naming names, you're not trying hard enough. If you haven't played at all as a senior by the end of October, you're probably not getting one more year of scholly.

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:28 PM | Probably safe to say (Score:1)
Grahambino
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that is why Jeremy Clark was given a full ride then.  Just took that scholarship and moved it to him.  Sad to hear though as it looked like Greg had a lot of promise based on his spring game performance.

Those who stay will be champions.

October 24th, 2011 at 12:28 PM | Bummer (Score:2)
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It's a shame because I believe Greg was an early enrollee, and a kid who grew up really wanted to play for Michigan. I wish him the best.

Perhaps this is related to the coach's un-greyshirting Jeremy Clark.

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:29 PM | ??? (Score:2)
GunnersApe
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Why would he not wait till the end of the season? Also is he still in school? Will he be a APR hit? Lotto numbers?

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

October 24th, 2011 at 12:32 PM | How does that Bo quote go again? (Score:-1 Overrated)
October 24th, 2011 at 12:33 PM | I'm pretty sure it was the (Score:3 Normal)
joeyb
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I'm pretty sure it was the second one.

October 24th, 2011 at 12:32 PM | I'm worried that attrition (Score:2)
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I'm worried that attrition like this will open up spots that we won't actually be able to use this year given the B1G's hard cap.  Gimme more early enrollees, por favor.  

October 24th, 2011 at 1:00 PM | No soup for you! (Score:2 Normal)
jimjam24
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Adios amigo.

"If fans don't come to the ballpark, you can't stop em."

October 24th, 2011 at 1:50 PM | I believe it was 'adios (Score:2 Normal)
CoachW
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I believe it was 'adios muchacho'.  I like the reference though.

October 24th, 2011 at 1:21 PM | Not true, we already have (Score:2)
WolvinLA2
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Not true, we already have three EE guys (Wilson, Ringer and I believe Bolden) so we're good. We can go up to 28 if we have the room, and we have 27 I believe if the two presumed unrenewed fifth years happen.

October 24th, 2011 at 3:34 PM | Not to mention (Score:0 Redundant)
October 24th, 2011 at 12:33 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
bronxblue
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Good luck to Greg. Wish him the best.

October 24th, 2011 at 12:34 PM | Best of luck, Greg. (Score:1)
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Best of luck, Greg.

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October 24th, 2011 at 12:49 PM | KY CB Jeremy Clark (Score:0 Normal)
October 24th, 2011 at 2:46 PM | Not to be too nit-picky (Score:1)
bigyellowtaxi
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But I'm pretty sure Clark is a safety, not a corner.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:01 PM | The guy left the team because (Score:3 Normal)
macgolf2010
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The guy left the team because he was deep in the depth chart. Once again, a young kid comes to Michigan and expects PT, and thinks he does not have to earn it. A high school teacher of his informed me he will be transferring to Syracuse. Bitter sweet best of luck, because a real Michigan man would have work his butt off, and where he falls on the roster is where he falls but would have know he did the best he could.

October 24th, 2011 at 1:05 PM | Bummer. (Score:2)
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I seem to remember a lot of optimism about him leading up to the season. 

October 24th, 2011 at 1:06 PM | This almost happened back in (Score:2 Normal)
Magnus
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This almost happened back in the spring, so it's not that surprising...and it's not that big of a loss.  There were better corners in his own class, and there are better corners coming in next year.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:09 PM | Probably should have stuck around. (Score:2 Normal)
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Because after all of our other D-backs are injured, struck by lightning, hit by falling satellites, abducted by aliens and gored by angry unicorns, he'd have probably started versus Ohio State.

 

 

October 24th, 2011 at 3:26 PM | Angry unicorns are the (Score:1)
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Angry unicorns are the scourge of the earth.  Bastards!

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:15 PM | Best of luck to him (Score:1)
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This is sad to hear as he was an early commit and early enrollee.  I'm sure he had different plans than this and while if it was a playing time issue, I wish he'd stick it out and see what happens down the line, it's ultimately his decision.  Best of luck to him in his future endeavours.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:17 PM | Usually hearing good things.. (Score:1)
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..is the kiss of death around these parts.  Hope he doesn't turn out to be a major loss.

 

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:19 PM | Good Luck... (Score:-1 Overrated)
October 24th, 2011 at 1:28 PM | Greg Brown was our first commit, right? (Score:2 Normal)
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Maybe it was the frustration of being the first commit, the only EE, and then getting passed on the depth chart by almost everyone on the depth chart. I still think that if you are going to transfer, the end of Winter term is probably the best. You probably have a pretty good idea of where you stand on the team and you can leave in good academic standing. Also, you've got the whole summer with your new team before fall camp to get acclimated. The middle of the 2011 season doesn't make sense. He won't play until 2013 at the earliest.

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October 24th, 2011 at 1:59 PM | NEVER FORGET. (Score:2)
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NEVER FORGET.

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October 24th, 2011 at 2:28 PM | Teen Wolf (Score:1)
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is sad.

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October 24th, 2011 at 3:47 PM | Hate losing any... (Score:1)
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Hate losing any Michigan player....good luck to him!

Go Blue!

October 24th, 2011 at 4:03 PM | It was PT (Score:1)
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...he was an early enrollee and thought he'd be playing right away and wouldn't redshirt. So in his mind he feels like a sophomore. With Countess already passing him, and Avery on the other side, it was simply PT.

People say homesick, he's from around the corner. Where is he going to go, BGSU or Toledo to get closer to home? Maybe go work at Cedar Point? He's from NORTHERN OHIO! He can drive home every weekend he is off from football if he wants.

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October 24th, 2011 at 4:34 PM | Why are we suddenly (Score:1)
Bo Knows
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Why are we suddenly predicting guys won't be renewed?  Yes, it seems likely Mike Cox won't be considering he hasn't played yet and can't seem to learn a playbook.  However, Terrence Robinson is a special teams contributor and has been praised by Hoke in a new conference.  What does it say about our program if we show goes who play 110% the door?

October 24th, 2011 at 4:40 PM | it shows that M honored (Score:1)
J. Lichty
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their commitment to these guys so they could get their degree despite the fact that they are not huge contributors on Saturdays.  These guys would have been visiting the St. Saban memorial wing if they were in the SEC long ago.

As for T Robinson, special teams contributions are largely underrrated and hugely important, but ST only guys are usually replacement level players.  When you can trade a replacement level player for the potential for a four year starter you make that choice everytime.

 

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October 29th, 2011 at 6:40 AM | The attrition rate for (Score:1)
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The attrition rate for freshmen in general is quite high.   Football players have the same pressures of other students plus some (they have a few benefits, too, like a built in support system), so there is probably more to this than just football.  It's a difficult adjustment for a lot of students.  Some seem to thrive and love the experience, other struggle with the adjustment.  We don't really have the information to know why he's leaving in this case.

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